I'm just sick and damned tired of pols not accepting the will of the voters. They had an election. You won or lost. Deal with it. And that goes for ballot propositions as well.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI'm just sick and damned tired of pols not accepting the will of the voters. They had an election. You won or lost. Deal with it. And that goes for ballot propositions as well.
he was not voted in on the will of the people, but via a method to dilute the will of the people.
Yes, that was the rules etc etc, but those rules do not represent the will of the people.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostWhy did you accept trump?
he was not voted in on the will of the people, but via a method to dilute the will of the people.
Yes, that was the rules etc etc, but those rules do not represent the will of the people.
I'm just curious as to what will happen with Mango Mussolini regarding his alleged sexual improriatey with women? Now that all of the women are coming forward in these high profile cases, it seems that Mango's accusers are resurfacing as well.sigpic
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Originally posted by LtColCarter View PostI didn't accept Mango Mussolini. I agree with you...his election wasn't the will of the people. Albeit, it was the outcome of the electoral system we have...that doesn't mean someone one like him should be in office. I'm glad the people saw Moore for what he is.
I'm just curious as to what will happen with Mango Mussolini regarding his alleged sexual improriatey with women? Now that all of the women are coming forward in these high profile cases, it seems that Mango's accusers are resurfacing as well.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostIf even one is true, it's unacceptable. I find it difficult to believe they are all lying
Oh, and another point. Since when is the simple word of an accuser enough enough to trash someone's reputation?
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI don't doubt that there are some legitimate accusations. But don't you think the sudden flood of accusations, many of which have no corroborating evidence at all, just the word of the accuser, over the past few months is suspicious? And now we have people wanting to rehash the accusations against Trump that arose during the campaign last year. Starting to smell like a coordinated effort to me. I still don't get why Dems are being targeted as well, that don't make a lot of sense.
Oh, and another point. Since when is the simple word of an accuser enough enough to trash someone's reputation?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostIn short, turn it around, so the censorship benefits Trump and others on the right. Still like the idea of censorship? Or would you rather see both sides of the conversation. There are two sides to everything.
You're never going to get fully rid of bias.
As you said, what can be considered hateful depends, but should that mean that we can't ban conspiracy nuts harassing the survivors of gun assaults? What about antivaxxers harassing the parents of a child that died?There are plenty of politically-motivated harassers, does that mean they can't be banned despite being both objectively wrong and objectively harmful?
Your system would not allow for handling these cases. It's always going to be a murky grey area between people talking actual politics and political trolls.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostHe won under the system we have. That's all that matters. Moore lost under the system in use, so the same rules apply.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI don't doubt that there are some legitimate accusations. But don't you think the sudden flood of accusations, many of which have no corroborating evidence at all, just the word of the accuser, over the past few months is suspicious? And now we have people wanting to rehash the accusations against Trump that arose during the campaign last year. Starting to smell like a coordinated effort to me. I still don't get why Dems are being targeted as well, that don't make a lot of sense.
We blame the victim. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, but if people have to chose between believing a celeb they idolize and some nobody they never met, they'll go with the celeb.
Thirdly, many of the accusing women for weinstein are successful actors now, so they are not at a financial risk from the fallout. Like i pointed at earlier, people warned of Weinstein earlier. These people also got no acting jobs for years.
With the whole #MeToo thing, apparently a taboo was broken.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostOh, and another point. Since when is the simple word of an accuser enough enough to trash someone's reputation?Last edited by thekillman; 13 December 2017, 09:49 PM.
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