The Political Discussion Thread

[Gatefan1976]

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-...s-putin-619508

[Gatefan1976]

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/fox...olley-to-hell/

[garhkal]

You should have kept it.


Then make it an addition to secular law, not a requirement of it.

Many places tried, by passing laws saying gays could get 'civil unions'. BUT the LGBTQ lobby didn't want that, they wanted "GAY marriage"...

[Gatefan1976]

Many places tried, by passing laws saying gays could get 'civil unions'. BUT the LGBTQ lobby didn't want that, they wanted "GAY marriage"...

The problem is that in many civil union laws, they do not have the same legal rights and protections as marriage.

[Gatefan1976]

https://www.vox.com/2017/7/20/160017...iew-transcript

[Gatefan1976]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.c158beacd0a1

[Falcon Horus]

Im sorry FH but Soul is not right for you. I always believed in you and PH's closet

The closet is indeed my second home (except when PH had something with lactose in it, then I'm not home).

Not wanting you to get married, is NOT being Hostile to gays. Its just wanting Marriage to remain "one woman, one man"..

You would be denying us the legal rights that go with marriage, so yes... hostile.

Many places tried, by passing laws saying gays could get 'civil unions'. BUT the LGBTQ lobby didn't want that, they wanted "GAY marriage"...

Civil unions and marriage do not have the same value as far as legal benefits and rights go.
So, of course it would have to be full marriage.

[jelgate]

Marriage is the only legal form of slavery. If FH wants the right to be a slave....

[Annoyed]

You would be denying us the legal rights that go with marriage, so yes... hostile.

Yet you would deny the devoutly religious bakery operator the right to operate his business according to the dictates of his religion by using the power of govt. to compel him to do a cake or whatever for a gay marriage.
Why are your rights more important than his?

[Gatefan1976]

Obi wan stupid.jpg

[aretood2]

Yet you would deny the devoutly religious bakery operator the right to operate his business according to the dictates of his religion by using the power of govt. to compel him to do a cake or whatever for a gay marriage.
Why are your rights more important than his?

Devoutly?

[Annoyed]

Devoutly?

You get my meaning, a shop owner who adheres to his faith, and that faith tells him not to participate in such things.

[jelgate]

I say let him refuse to bake a gay marriage cake. More profit for the one who will do it.

[aretood2]

You get my meaning, a shop owner who adheres to his faith, and that faith tells him not to participate in such things.

It's not really clear if that's even the case to be honest. Not at least from where I am sitting.

[Gatefan1976]

You get my meaning, a shop owner who adheres to his faith, and that faith tells him not to participate in such things.

the question is, do you not bake the cake because they are gay, in which case it is discrimination, or because you would not bake -that- cake for any reason, in which case it's more like someone not selling bacon. Supply to all, or do not stock are two different things.