The Political Discussion Thread

[Gatefan1976]

That's a long story that involves coconuts. Lots and lots of coconuts.

How many horses did you go through

[jelgate]

That's a long story that involves coconuts. Lots and lots of coconuts.

Dodge coconuts

*knocks Annoyed out with coconut*

Today I am a hero

[Gatefan1976]

Home run?

[jelgate]

We should take advantage of him being unconscious

[Gatefan1976]

Get Anja.............

[Gatefan1976]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...31574649901056

So, is it time to have that gun debate yet?

[jelgate]

Remember what Annoyed said. If they take your tv, it's okay to shoot them in the back

[Gatefan1976]

I wonder if Scalise is regretting the choice to allow mentally unstable people access to semi-auto rifles................

[Womble]

The spat with Qatar has really loosened some tongues! The Red Crescent Secretary General is now speaking out about the way Hamas exploited hospitals as firing positions during the last Gaza war:

"While we were in the field hospital that the UAE built, we were surprised by – and this is the first that we have announced this – someone from Hamas instigating Israeli forces by launching locally made rockets from the field hospital", he said.


Inevitably, the Israelis hit back. "This shows their [Hamas’s] wicked intentions and how they sacrificed us," Mr Al Falahi said. "They always claim that the enemy targets humanitarian envoys but the betrayal came from them."

He said as the team were leaving Gaza "after having raised the white flag, Hamas accused us of being spies, undercover foreign intelligence who were escaping".

"And apparently they had informed extremist militias in Sinai and Sheikh Zuweid [in Egypt] that there was a group making their way there, so prepare for jihad against them.


"So Muslims fighting Muslims, who were giving humanitarian aid to Muslims. As we stopped at a grocery to buy something to eat, they started shooting at us."

He said the same time they found that the militias had planted landmines in their path a few kilometres farther down the path.

In related news:

Amid Gulf crisis, US and Qatar agree on F-15 fighter sale

[Gatefan1976]

I saw the news on the F-15 sale, but this was really just a finalization of a pre-existing sale brokered under Obama.

[Gatefan1976]

Seems pwesident manchild woke up on the wrong side of an investigation today
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Yo, trump fans, Where was Obama born again??

[Falcon Horus]

traumatized?

On an epic scale...

But Standford and Harvard are well known universities therefore known as breeding ground for liberals and thus fake

Shoot...

Especially when several states already seem to wanna PUSH the right to vote TO illegals (CA!)

What's true:
The League of Women Voters (along with the NAACP and other parties) filed for injunctive relief against the Election Assistance Commission on 12 February 2016 due to unilaterally imposed voter registration restrictions requiring "documentary proof" of American citizenship; current law prohibits non-citizens from registering to vote or voting under penalty of perjury.

What's false:
The Obama Administration or Justice Department initiated the suit; the Election Assistance Commission's actions would enable non-citizens to legally vote in 2016 primaries and the general election; any parties are advocating for the right of non-citizens to vote in primary or general elections.

As for California:

License to Vote: While California did pass a law to increase voter turnout, the state has not made it legal for undocumented people to vote


Claim = FALSE

While it’s true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver’s license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver’s license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.

You read the ideas and such I discuss here. Are there any present day Democrats who espouse mostly the same things?

From my point of view: Democrats are progressive, and Republicans are backwards conservative.

However, conservative democrats are very real and call themselves the Blue Dog Coalition (= Blue Dogs feel the party has moved so far left that it has "choked them blue").

Here's a couple you can choose from:

Senators
Ben Nelson -- even endorsed once when running for something or other by Pro-Life groups and the NRA (generally only endorsing republicans)
Bill Nelson
Cory Booker
Evan Bayh
Joe Donnelly
Joe Manchin
Jon Tester
John Edwards
Kirsten Gillibrand
Mary Landrieu
Mark Pryor

House of Representatives
Bart Stupak
Bobby Bright
Charlie Melancon
Dan Boren
Collin Peterson
Heath Shuler
James Oberstar
Jerry Costello
John Barrow
John Murtha
Kathleen Dahlkemper
Lincoln Davis
Marcy Kaptur
Mike McIntyre
Paul Kanjorski
Solomon Ortiz
Steve Driehaus
Tim Holden
Travis Childers

Governors
Steve Bullock of Montana
Andrew Cuomo of New York
John Bel Edwards of Louisiana

The Spanish flu will cull people in 10 years

I never gave it much thought but for anyone thinking the Spanish Flu is like birdflu or something, you would be so wrong. There was an article in a local paper (with the theme of our 4 year rememberance of WWI) about what the Spanish Flu was. Jezus Christ, it's absolutely nothing like the flu. It sure starts like a flu bit evolves to something like Ebola and the Black Death (bubonic plague, among others).

Also, there's no cure for it, and no vaccine. Just saying...

How many horses did you go through

I wonder if Scalise is regretting the choice to allow mentally unstable people access to semi-auto rifles................

Ouch, he voted for that... talk about karma catching up early.

The spat with Qatar has really loosened some tongues! The Red Crescent Secretary General is now speaking out about the way Hamas exploited hospitals as firing positions during the last Gaza war:

So, if Hamas exploits hospitals -- why does Israel indulge them by firing back at those targets?
If Israel didn't respond on the target, they might get bored using civilians as target practice. Sure, it would defeat their recruiting methods but hey, you gotta start somewhere...

[jelgate]

Seems pwesident manchild woke up on the wrong side of an investigation today
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Yo, trump fans, Where was Obama born again??

This is my favorite sitcom

[SoulReaver]

On an epic scale...

#remorse

now FH needs comforting

[Gatefan1976]

From my point of view: Democrats are progressive, and Republicans are backwards conservative.

However, conservative democrats are very real and call themselves the Blue Dog Coalition (= Blue Dogs feel the party has moved so far left that it has "choked them blue").

Here's a couple you can choose from:

Senators
Ben Nelson -- even endorsed once when running for something or other by Pro-Life groups and the NRA (generally only endorsing republicans)
Bill Nelson
Cory Booker
Evan Bayh
Joe Donnelly
Joe Manchin
Jon Tester
John Edwards
Kirsten Gillibrand
Mary Landrieu
Mark Pryor

House of Representatives
Bart Stupak
Bobby Bright
Charlie Melancon
Dan Boren
Collin Peterson
Heath Shuler
James Oberstar
Jerry Costello
John Barrow
John Murtha
Kathleen Dahlkemper
Lincoln Davis
Marcy Kaptur
Mike McIntyre
Paul Kanjorski
Solomon Ortiz
Steve Driehaus
Tim Holden
Travis Childers

Governors
Steve Bullock of Montana
Andrew Cuomo of New York
John Bel Edwards of Louisiana

Let's be honest here, The Dems and the Repubs -really- don't differ in how much they have sold out to business, The major difference between the two parties in the US is not on.......... substantive issues, but instead on the social scale.

I never gave it much thought but for anyone thinking the Spanish Flu is like birdflu or something, you would be so wrong. There was an article in a local paper (with the theme of our 4 year rememberance of WWI) about what the Spanish Flu was. Jezus Christ, it's absolutely nothing like the flu. It sure starts like a flu bit evolves to something like Ebola and the Black Death (bubonic plague, among others).

Also, there's no cure for it, and no vaccine. Just saying...

I think that was Jel's point.

Ouch, he voted for that... talk about karma catching up early.

I have zero sympathy at all, not because he is a republican, but because he voted for it. A few Democrats voted for it as well, and if they got shot, I would feel the same way.
**** them.

So, if Hamas exploits hospitals -- why does Israel indulge them by firing back at those targets?
If Israel didn't respond on the target, they might get bored using civilians as target practice. Sure, it would defeat their recruiting methods but hey, you gotta start somewhere...

Israel does not "indulge them", they (Hamas) willingly turn places of peace into targets to generate social outrage. In fact, the social outrage is worth far more than any fighters or equipment they may loose.
I am not agreeing with, or condoning either side, just noting the fact.