The Political Discussion Thread

[Coco Pops]

It's what happens when "people" decide to gut the system before it exists and don't allow government to regulate insurance and pharma companies as well.

Somehow that strikes me as really bad planning to do that. Why gut a system that doesn't exist? What are you actually gutting? That's just stupid that they even do that.

[Gatefan1976]

Somehow that strikes me as really bad planning to do that. Why gut a system that doesn't exist? What are you actually gutting? That's just stupid that they even do that.

It's -exactly- what they did to Obamacare.
Imagine having to pay the medicare levy, and have to pay for private healthcare, and not having the PBS system that we do here, and not have governmental controls on pharma and insurance costs THEN tie it all in to it having been paid for by your workplace for decades.

THEN, put a opposition in majority power of the 2 houses of parliament who's stated objective is to not allow you to do a damn thing.

Of course, it's all Obama's fault............

[thekillman]

Holy ****:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-brexit-ruling

The UK is not turning into a pretty place.

[Coco Pops]

Holy ****:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-brexit-ruling

The UK is not turning into a pretty place.

No not pretty at all. But the whole Brexit thing was meant to cause chaos.

[Coco Pops]

It's -exactly- what they did to Obamacare.
Imagine having to pay the medicare levy, and have to pay for private healthcare, and not having the PBS system that we do here, and not have governmental controls on pharma and insurance costs THEN tie it all in to it having been paid for by your workplace for decades.

THEN, put a opposition in majority power of the 2 houses of parliament who's stated objective is to not allow you to do a damn thing.

Of course, it's all Obama's fault............

Of course it is /s

[Annoyed]

That usually happens when the government opposes the will of the people.
Or, put another way, that usually happens when the business interests that would lose out are trying to override the will of the people.

[Annoyed]

hey jelgate ~ do you happen to have that "Giant Meteor" as a bumper sticker or know anyone who has it on their car?
I saw the bumper sticker and thought of the conversations in this very topic here.
Too funny of a coincidence!

I have actually seen it on the back of a car.

[Annoyed]

Is there a civil war inside the DOJ?

I hope this isn't true

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/...izer-breitbart

Yes, I think there is a split there. The rank and file investigators who actually do the investigating are convinced that Clinton should face criminal charges, and that's what they're pushing for. However, sr. management is being pressured / ordered? by Obama to not press charges against her. (The FBI is under the executive branch)

The administration has been running interference for Clinton for quite some time now.

[Annoyed]

P.S. Speaking of healthcare, my American friend who works in healthcare says that Obamacare hurt the middle class the most by driving up the premiums across the board. The poor have their medical insurance subsidized, the rich can afford a hike in premiums but the middle class took a significant hit to their pockets without seeing any gains at all.

And anyone who expected otherwise is a fool.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Holy ****:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-brexit-ruling

The UK is not turning into a pretty place.

If you believe the front pages of the tabloid trash...

Remember when the Daily Mail wrote an article about how dinosaurs mated with no actual evidence to back it up, just so they could publish their dinosaur porn collection?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...feet-long.html

None of those "newspapers" are above manufacturing a "crisis" to sell copies. Just a few weeks ago The Sun was claiming national outrage about Gary Lineker's "offensive" tweets. The only outrage was coming from The Sun itself..

[jelgate]

Yes, I think there is a split there. The rank and file investigators who actually do the investigating are convinced that Clinton should face criminal charges, and that's what they're pushing for. However, sr. management is being pressured / ordered? by Obama to not press charges against her. (The FBI is under the executive branch)

The administration has been running interference for Clinton for quite some time now.

And the feds are able to read our minds from beams that originate from the satellites. That's why we need to wear these tinfoil hats. To keep our minds safe from the Thought Pollice

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

And the feds are able to read our minds from beams that originate from the satellites. That's why we need to wear these tinfoil hats. To keep our minds safe from the Thought Pollice

That's my tinfoil hat! It even has my name on it!

[thekillman]

That usually happens when the government opposes the will of the people.
Or, put another way, that usually happens when the business interests that would lose out are trying to override the will of the people.

But it's not the government opposing the will of the people at all. It's not the government that sued, they *got* sued.

If you believe the front pages of the tabloid trash...

Eh i've seen other comments in a similar vein. And I'm seeing it in more and more places. And it seems that people are becoming blind to the irony.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Have you ever read The Sun or the Daily Mail?

[Annoyed]

But it's not the government opposing the will of the people at all. It's not the government that sued, they *got* sued.

Who is taking the govt. to court?