The Political Discussion Thread

[jelgate]

Stay away from my tomatoes PH.

The Clinton foundation doesn't surprise me
All politicians will meet with their major donors

[Womble]

Stay away from my tomatoes PH.

The Clinton foundation doesn't surprise me
All politicians will meet with their major donors

After having pledged to not meet with them?

[Falcon Horus]

Obama recruiting lesbian farmers to "attack" conservative rural areas of the U.S

So many ... I can't stop laughing.

[garhkal]

To put the pedantic wordplay aside for a moment, no one -really- wants to give Iran money given that they support terrorism as the west would define it, but the money -was- part of a diplomatic deal. Now, we could argue that it was a "bad deal", I could even be persuaded that it was a terrible deal, but the harsh reality of the world is without a deal of some description Iran may (and yes, I recognize that it is only a may) well have already had nuclear capability. IF Iran now violates that diplomatic deal, the US has ALL the moral high cards to call on not only their own, but worldwide condemnation of Iran.

Since when has their prior violations of international law and 'condemnation from the international community' done diddly squat to Iran in preventing their DOING IT time and time again afterwards.. It has not.

So, anyone else laughing about Trumps errrr........... "pivot" (which he is absolutely not doing according to his surrogates) on Immigration?

If he sticks with this new course, i see him losing some of his core base..

Possibly not.
The 5th fleet parked off the coast might though..............

Which ain't gonna do **** unless the powers that be (Obama and co) actually give them the green light to DO SOMETHING about it..

If you only realize that now, you're quite naive.

And yet you and gatefan seem to think even WITH all her proof of corruption etc, she is STILL miles better than trump to lead..
That shows you are not only equally naive, but worse...

[Falcon Horus]

And yet you and gatefan seem to think even WITH all her proof of corruption etc, she is STILL miles better than trump to lead..
That shows you are not only equally naive, but worse...

LOL!! You're even more naive cause you're the one who thinks Trump is more honest.

Money makes the world go round, dude. Everybody knows that.

[Annoyed]

If he sticks with this new course, i see him losing some of his core base..

Not if his core base has the brains God promised a doorknob it won't.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

After having pledged to not meet with them?

This is what is known in politics as a "U-Turn" Or to use its technical term, a "flippety-flop"

Trump (I know the story isn't about him for once) is a master of the flippety-flop, he changes his mind on every issue on an almost hourly basis.. I think he has been taking lessons from David Cameron..

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

So many ... I can't stop laughing.

Snopes has many fact checking articles about politics.. So many crazy stories.. Like Trump donating play-doh to flood victims..

[thekillman]

Wasn't that money part of the peace agreement? That's a reach at best.

Iran has billions and billions of dollars in assets, frozen by the US as part of the sanctions. When the sanctions were changed, a good part of that money was unfrozen.

This is what is known in politics as a "U-Turn" Or to use its technical term, a "flippety-flop"

Trump (I know the story isn't about him for once) is a master of the flippety-flop, he changes his mind on every issue on an almost hourly basis.. I think he has been taking lessons from David Cameron..

He's just being "flexible" again, because only others lie.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

He's just being "flexible" again, because only others lie.

Flippity-flopping

It's more fun. And more fitting of the ridiculousness that is the Trump.

[Gatefan1976]

After having pledged to not meet with them?

There is more to it than that, but I would agree that she did break her pledge, if not in the letter of it, but the spirit of it.

[Gatefan1976]

Not if his core base has the brains God promised a doorknob it won't.

I ummm, Can't stop LAUGHING!!!

[Gatefan1976]

Since when has their prior violations of international law and 'condemnation from the international community' done diddly squat to Iran in preventing their DOING IT time and time again afterwards.. It has not.

When has it stopped the US?
You are missing the point here G-man. This would not be a "stand alone" violation, it would be the direct violation of a diplomatic treaty.

If he sticks with this new course, i see him losing some of his core base..

No, he won't. His surrogates are doing a better job than he is in "explaining his position", on fox and CNN and denying it is a pivot at all.

Which ain't gonna do **** unless the powers that be (Obama and co) actually give them the green light to DO SOMETHING about it..

Of course, the military should not be performing unilateral actions, should it?

And yet you and gatefan seem to think even WITH all her proof of corruption etc, she is STILL miles better than trump to lead..
That shows you are not only equally naive, but worse...

Who has denied she is a corrupt politician?
Who has defended her when she has done the wrong thing?
FH and I have never denied she lies, what we have taken pains to show you is that Trump lies MORE, on a more consistent basis. You guys defend him -blindly-. Like I said before, Hillary will -at worst- be no better or worse than Obama, Trump will be definitely worse. He is an unstable, preening narcissist who cares about noting or no one but his own advancement. Remember him crying that the system was rigged, but when he one "he doesn't care anymore cause I won"? That alone should tell you how much he cares about issues.

[Falcon Horus]

Not if his core base has the brains God promised a doorknob it won't.

A doorknob has brains?

[Gatefan1976]

Wow what did I miss? What is this "pivot" you speak of?

Nevermind, he has changed tack again, his base acted lie the doorknobs that they are supposedly not.