Originally posted by garhkal
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Now that i will give you. Too much fraud and waste. Though it seems nearly every time someone does try to get something done to reign that in, people 'whine' that it will leave the helpless out in the lurch, and we can't/shouldn't be that heartless..
Again, i fully agree. Limit it to those who have 'paid their dues'.. I would also like to see it 'stop being a lifestyle' (it seems) where mom was on it, so kids wind up living on it, cause with all the benefits they rake in, they are better off STAYING on it, than getting off and working for a living..
Now I'm not saying that there is widespread fraud. That's your own conclusion. I just favor an objective based approach that seeks to solve an individual's problem versus a reactionary approach.
That's what it initially Was for.. A help Up. but somewhere along the line it mutated into a Hand out, which people feel entitled too, then demand... and too many politicians don't argue against, cause they 'want the votes'..
Bill Clinton apparently didn't want the votes. I think the real problem is that democrats are caught up in the nanny state philosophy while republicans just want to oppose them and can't be bothered with developing an alternative. And those that do offer alternatives get called "RINO's".
Why not go back to how it used to be (iirc before the 50s), to where to Emegrate here, you had to Prove you could support yourself via having a job, or sufficient funds, OR having someone who would pay your way TILL you got situated...
Heck, iirc that's how Australia still is..
Heck, iirc that's how Australia still is..
And who was it that failed to do that.. The Democrats who 'Promised Reagan' to do so, if Amnesty was signed..
Especially when its been done at least twice before.
It also tells those who ARE currently going through the proper route, "You should have just said screw being legal and doing the right thing, just wait around, whine enough and liberals will eventually ***** and moan enough that enough people will tell their senators "Give them amnesty".
It also tells those who ARE currently going through the proper route, "You should have just said screw being legal and doing the right thing, just wait around, whine enough and liberals will eventually ***** and moan enough that enough people will tell their senators "Give them amnesty".
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