Originally posted by Falcon Horus
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
The Political Discussion Thread
Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
-
Originally posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View PostHe's also threatened us with:
World War III, it seems the UK being in the EU is the only thing preventing it
Economic collapse, the UK economy is so important that the entire world is dependant on it for stability. If it is really that strong it should be able to exist independently, right?
House prices will fall. A good thing! No one can afford to buy one now with the artificially inflated prices caused by a high demand and a low supply
No more trading ever! Even though trade is a two way thing, The EU exports more to the UK than the UK does to the EU. Cameron insists trade deals will take years to sort out. Except we've been trading with the US for 200 ish years without an official agreement, and no issues, so which is it? And it's worth pointing out that EU laws state that no member state can trade with countries outside the bloc without the agreement of all 28 member states. It has to have an official EU approved trade agreement. Leaving the EU would free the UK to trade with the rest of the world without needing the EU's approval, or years of negotiations to set up a deal.
The Punishment Budget. This one was just last week. Lots of new cuts and tax hikes to fill the hole made by saving all the money sent to the EU... Wait.. That can't be right..
Airline fees will go up! I had no idea the EU was in charge of setting those..
No more workers' rights! If only we have a functional government who could create laws to protect workers.. Maybe some kind of workers' union.. But that's just crazy right?
The NHS would be privatised! Why would it? Is the EU the only thing preventing that? The NHS existed long before the EU was created, so it can clearly survive without it.
etc... There were lots more, but I think you get the point. The whole world is in danger if the UK leaves the EU Every week there was a new threat of how voting out would destroy us all. Even though a few months ago he said the UK could survive outside the EU. It's only since the referendum was announced that he changed his mind and started telling us all it would be political and economic suicide to leave. So why give us the option if it's so dangerous?sigpic
Comment
-
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostBut the family is the pillar of society. They get the most benefits and reductions.
A couple with children (the more, the merrier).
Singles do not procreate. They don't spend as much money (or less since they don't have children or a partner).
The norm is the family, married, civil partnerships, children...
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Posthere's even a term for it:
...more than half of the population [of the US]—continue to suffer from institutionalized singlism, the discrimination of individuals based on marital status.
Source: The High Price of Being Single in America
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostI know - and I actually agreed that both sides blocked the other side, hence why I said "someone can't seem to compromise" which is applicable to both sides.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostAnd they will always get them, but at least we can make it harder for them. Not just walk into the nearest gunshop and buy what they need.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostBecause it was too strict...
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostThe IRS doesn't kill, the NRA does.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostOh dear, ... didn't they put you through some psychological tests when you joined the military. Fit for duty and all that jazz? Or did they just allow you access to all those military grade weapons not knowing you were a psychopath in disguise?
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostYou get whacked in the head or something? Since when don't singles procreate? I WISH singles didn't procreate. In fact, procreation by singles is one of the bigger social problems that we face.
Comment
-
Originally posted by pookey View PostI did, two weeks ago
Cynical? Me? Never!
I shall be popping across the road in the morning to put my X in the leave box, literally, the polling station for this area is within spitting distance of my front door.
Didn't the EU say Scotland couldn't join if it voted independence in their referendum last year? Oh the irony...
Comment
-
Originally posted by SoulReaver View Posta warden?
a king?
a wall?
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostYou get whacked in the head or something? Since when don't singles procreate? I WISH singles didn't procreate. In fact, procreation by singles is one of the bigger social problems that we face.
Sure, they procreate but they only have one paycheck coming in and they still won't have any of the benefits marriage or civil partnership offers. Child benefits they'll get, and they are a wee bit higher for single parents but not enough to make a difference.
Originally posted by garhkal View PostIf that's the case then, why is the left seeming to be intent on borking that up, with gay marriage, redefining 'gender' (even to the point of someone now being Legally defined as NO gender)?? etc?
Families come in different forms - two dads, two moms, a mom and a dad, a mom - a dad and a stepdad, a dad - a mom and a stepmom, a single dad (by choice or loss of a partner (M/F)), a single mom (by choice or loss of a partner (M/F)), a mom and stepdad/mom - and a dad and a stepmom/dad, ... and any other combo you can make.
Singles are not quantified as a family.
You read the article.
Originally posted by garhkal View PostBut those laws will ALSO make it harder for every law abiding citizen to get their hands on guns.
You're not part of a militia.
Originally posted by garhkal View PostDamn skippy it was.. Especially when we have had several reports of how hard its been for people WRONGFULLY put on it, to get their names OFF the list...
Originally posted by garhkal View PostHow many killers over the past 10 years have been members of the NRA?
Originally posted by Ian-S View PostI shall be popping across the road in the morning to put my X in the leave box, literally, the polling station for this area is within spitting distance of my front door.
The market will get a hit, and you're not going to like it. Neither side, will like it.
And just when we were frakkin' crawling out of the black hole we'd got dumped in.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
Comment
-
It can't be any worse than 1990 or 2008.
Sure they'll be a short term drop when everybody punishes us for our defiance, but soon enough when the EU members realises they need those goods or services were so good at supplying, or they get fedup with rotting food sitting in their docks (or their own economies tanking because over supply means inflation becomes negative due to the prices dropping on that produce they need to shift), they'll soon start dealing with us again.
Goto your local supermarket, walk through the fruit and veg isle and have a good look at just how little comes from the EU, and what does is Apples, Oranges etc. All those popular exotic things like plumbs come from South Africa. The EU needs us more than we need them, I really doubt they're going to punish us for too long, especially when they start loosing money by doing so.
I have a Swiss friend who said the same thing happened there when they decided not to join, but when all the other countries realised they could only do certain things in Switzerland and they were loosing more money by punishing them than they were by dealing, all was soon forgotten.Last edited by Ian-S; 22 June 2016, 04:02 PM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ian-S View PostDidn't the EU say Scotland couldn't join if it voted independence in their referendum last year? Oh the irony...sigpic
Comment
-
Yeah, Europe suddenly doesn't look so stable anymore. From Greece to brexit to Catalonia and the Scottish throwing a fit ever so often and that whole business with Russia and Ukraine. Then add Europe's unwillingness to solve the Syrian refugee problem and economic stagnation across the board.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View PostHe's also threatened us with:
World War III, it seems the UK being in the EU is the only thing preventing it
Economic collapse, the UK economy is so important that the entire world is dependant on it for stability. If it is really that strong it should be able to exist independently, right?
House prices will fall. A good thing! No one can afford to buy one now with the artificially inflated prices caused by a high demand and a low supply
No more trading ever! Even though trade is a two way thing, The EU exports more to the UK than the UK does to the EU. Cameron insists trade deals will take years to sort out. Except we've been trading with the US for 200 ish years without an official agreement, and no issues, so which is it? And it's worth pointing out that EU laws state that no member state can trade with countries outside the bloc without the agreement of all 28 member states. It has to have an official EU approved trade agreement. Leaving the EU would free the UK to trade with the rest of the world without needing the EU's approval, or years of negotiations to set up a deal.
The Punishment Budget. This one was just last week. Lots of new cuts and tax hikes to fill the hole made by saving all the money sent to the EU... Wait.. That can't be right..
Airline fees will go up! I had no idea the EU was in charge of setting those..
No more workers' rights! If only we have a functional government who could create laws to protect workers.. Maybe some kind of workers' union.. But that's just crazy right?
The NHS would be privatised! Why would it? Is the EU the only thing preventing that? The NHS existed long before the EU was created, so it can clearly survive without it.
etc... There were lots more, but I think you get the point. The whole world is in danger if the UK leaves the EU Every week there was a new threat of how voting out would destroy us all. Even though a few months ago he said the UK could survive outside the EU. It's only since the referendum was announced that he changed his mind and started telling us all it would be political and economic suicide to leave. So why give us the option if it's so dangerous?
Sounds just like the LNP here in Australia......... Right wing conservative religious nutjobs..
Most of those things sound similar to us here .. Same kind of things being looked at.
It's as if the housing market is the only thing holding up our economy.Go home aliens, go home!!!!
Comment
Comment