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SG-1/Atlantis/Movies/SGU continuity and viewing order
I am 99% caught up with SGA. I have like 3 more episodes left and i am wondering if I should watch SG-1 and then Ark of Truth and Continuum or if i will be safe with watching them after i finish SGA. I understand the order in which i watched SGA is not entirely correct, but when i started it i felt that ten seasons of SG-1 was too much to watch, but i enjoy SGA so much that i think i might watch SG-1.
The timeline goes like this...
Stargate (movie)
SG-1 Seasons 1-7
SG-1 Season 8 / Atlantis Season 1
SG-1 Season 9 / Atlantis Season 2
SG-1 Season 10 / Atlantis Season 3
The Ark of Truth
Atlantis Season 4
Atlantis Season 5 / Continuum
this is the list of episodes i made, everything is arranged by chronological order and that's the order in which i burned the episodes on my dvds so that i can watch it all by order and for everything to make sense.
each dvd disk has room for 12 episodes (and each of the three stargate movies takes the same place as 4 episodes)
to save space i give you the list from SG1's season 7 onward (before that it was only sg1 and no atlantis):
SG1 721 Lost City 1
SG1 722 Lost City 2
SG1 801 New Order 1
SG1 802 New Order 2
SG1 803 Lockdown
SG1 804 Zero Hour
SG1 805 Icon
SGA 106 Childhood's End
SGA 107 Poisoning the Well
SGA 108 Underground
SGA 109 Home
SGA 110 The Storm
SGA 111 The Eye
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SGA 112 The Defiant One
SGA 113 Hot Zone
SGA 114 Sanctuary
SGA 115 Before I sleep
SGA 116 The Brotherhood
SGA 117 Letters From Pegasus
SG1 812 Prometheus Unbound
SG1 813 It's Good to be King
SG1 814 Full Alert
SG1 815 Citizen Joe
SG1 816 Reckoning part 1
SG1 817 Reckoning part 2
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SG1 818 Threads 1
SG1 818 Threads 2
SG1 819 Moebius part 1
SG1 820 Moebius part 2
SGA 118 The Gift
SGA 119 The Siege part 1
SGA 120 The Siege part 2
SGA 201 The Siege part 3
SGA 202 The Intruder
SGA 203 Runner
SGA 204 Duet
SGA 205 Condemned
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SG1 901 Avalon 1
SG1 902 Avalon 2
SG1 903 Origin
SG1 904 The Ties that Bind
SG1 905 The Powers that Be
SG1 906 Beachhead
SGA 206 Trinity
SGA 207 Instinct
SGA 208 Conversion
SGA 209 Aurora
SGA 210 The Lost Boys
SGA 211 The Hive
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SG1 907 Ex Deus Machina
SG1 908 Babylon
SG1 909 Prototype
SG1 910 The Fourth Horseman 1
SG1 911 The Fourth Horseman 2
SG1 912 Collateral Damage
SG1 913 Ripple Effect
SGA 212 Epiphany
SGA 213 Critical Mass
SGA 214 Grace Under Pressure
SGA 215 The Tower
SGA 216 The Long Goodbye
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SG1 914 Ethon
SG1 915 Stronghold
SG1 916 Off the Grid
SG1 917 The Scourge
SGA 217 Coup D'etat
SGA 218 Michael
SGA 219 Inferno
SGA 220 Allies
SGA 301 No Man's Land
SGA 302 The Misbegotten
SGA 303 Irresistible
SGA 304 Sateda
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SG1 918 Arthur's mantle
SG1 919 Crusade
SG1 920 Camelot
SG1 1001 Flesh and Blood
SG1 1002 Morpheus
SG1 1003 The Pegasus Project
SG1 1004 Insiders
SG1 1005 Uninvited
SG1 1006 Two Hundred
SGA 305 Progeny
SGA 306 The Real World
SGA 307 Common Ground
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SG1 1007 Counterstrike
SG1 1008 Memento Mori
SG1 1009 Company Of Thieves
SG1 1010 The Quest (part 1)
SG1 1011 The Quest (part 2)
SG1 1012 Line in the Sand
SG1 1013 The Road not Taken
SG1 1014 The Shroud
SGA 308 McKay And Mrs. Miller
SGA 309 Phantoms
SGA 310 The Return (part 1)
SGA 311 The Return (part 2)
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SG1 1015 Bounty
SG1 1016 Bad Guys
SG1 1017 Talion
SG1 1018 Family Ties
SG1 1019 Dominion
SG1 1020 Unending
SGA 312 Echoes
SGA 313 Irresponsible
Stargate Ark of Truth
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SGA 314 Tao of Rodney
SGA 315 The Game
SGA 316 The Ark
SGA 317 Sunday
SGA 318 Submersion
SGA 319 Vengeance
SGA 320 First Strike
SGA 401 Adrift
SGA 402 LifeLine
SGA 403 Reunion
SGA 404 Doppelganger
SGA 405 Travellers
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SGA 406 Tabula Rasa
SGA 407 Missing
SGA 408 The Seer
SGA 409 Miller's Crossing
SGA 410 This Mortal Coil
SGA 411 Be All My Sins Remembered
SGA 412 Spoils of War
SGA 413 Quarantine
SGA 414 Harmony
SGA 415 Outcast
SGA 416 Trio
SGA 417 Midway
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SGA 418 The Kindred, part 1
SGA 419 The Kindred, part 2
SGA 420 The Last Man
SGA 501 Search and Rescue
SGA 502 The Seed
SGA 503 Broken Ties
SGA 504 The Daedalus Variations
SGA 505 Ghost in the Machine
SGA 506 The Shrine
SGA 507 Whispers
Stargate Continuum
i was going to add that some people have an SG-1 boxed set of season 8 that has the last few eps out of order, but AscendedThor has the correct order.
the UK box set of Season 8 is screwed up, but you can refer to the GW episode guide for the proper order.
But Ascended Thors list should at least have The Return before The Shroud. Though in my opinion Unending and The Ark of Truth occur before First Strike.
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Stargate (movie)
SG-1 Seasons 1-7
SG-1 Season 8 / Atlantis Season 1
SG-1 Season 9 / Atlantis Season 2
SG-1 Season 10 / Atlantis Season 3
The Ark of Truth
Atlantis Season 4
Atlantis Season 5 / Continuum
A lot of people will tell you to alternate episodes, but that's really not necessary. Alternating seasons is enough. Watch the SG-1 season first, then the Atlantis season. This is because SG-1 makes vague references to Atlantis while Atlantis will have lots of crossovers. The Ark of Truth takes place before Atlantis's third season finale, but the movie doesn't reference the show, so don't worry about Atlantis spoilers. Continuum was suppose to take place after Ark of Truth, but it was retconned to take place during Season 5 of Atlantis. This creates some continuity issues with Carter and Teal'c who made Season 4 appearances on Atlantis. They're minor issues, though.
Infinity doesn't fit in. It is a kid's cartoon that was made during SG-1's fifth season, it contradicts a lot of stories we've seen since then. If you like cartoons, check it out, but don't try to fit it into the franchise. Just accept it as an independent cartoon loosely connected to SG-1's early seasons.
I hope that helped.
This is actually pretty much perfect. One thing I would change though is the placement of Continuum. Because it's directly addressed, I would watch it between the first and second episodes of Stargate Atlantis season 5. But really, that's nitpicky.
this is the list of episodes i made, everything is arranged by chronological order and that's the order in which i burned the episodes on my dvds so that i can watch it all by order and for everything to make sense.
each dvd disk has room for 12 episodes (and each of the three stargate movies takes the same place as 4 episodes)
to save space i give you the list from SG1's season 7 onward (before that it was only sg1 and no atlantis):
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SGA 112 The Defiant One
SGA 113 Hot Zone
SGA 114 Sanctuary
SGA 115 Before I sleep
SGA 116 The Brotherhood
SGA 117 Letters From Pegasus
SG1 812 Prometheus Unbound
SG1 813 It's Good to be King
SG1 814 Full Alert
SG1 815 Citizen Joe
SG1 816 Reckoning part 1
SG1 817 Reckoning part 2
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SG1 818 Threads 1
SG1 818 Threads 2
SG1 819 Moebius part 1
SG1 820 Moebius part 2
SGA 118 The Gift
SGA 119 The Siege part 1
SGA 120 The Siege part 2
SGA 201 The Siege part 3
SGA 202 The Intruder
SGA 203 Runner
SGA 204 Duet
SGA 205 Condemned
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Technically SG1 819 Moebius part 1 and SG1 820 Moebius part 2 came before SGA 117 Letters From Pegasus.
If you recall the in beginning of SGA 120 The Siege part 2, is talking about receiving the message sent by Atlantis and how they had found a ZPM in Egypt, buried "right under their noses"... here is quote from the Transcript.
WEIR: Hold on a second, Colonel -- I don't think you fully grasp our situation here.
EVERETT: You have three Wraith hive ships bearing down on your position and precious little to defend yourselves with. That about sum it up?
McKAY: You got our message!
EVERETT: We got your message.
WEIR: It's down to two hive ships. We managed to destroy one of them.
EVERETT (condescendingly): Good for you! That should make my job a little easier. (He starts to head up the steps.)
SHEPPARD: What exactly is your job, sir?
EVERETT: I should think that would be obvious to you by now, Major. We are going to defend Atlantis at all costs.
OPENING CREDITS. RESUME. As Everett heads up the steps, Elizabeth walks towards him.
WEIR: Colonel?
(Everett turns and holds out a folded piece of paper towards her.)
EVERETT: Signed by General O'Neill.
(Elizabeth looks at the paper for a moment, then takes it. John steps forward. Behind him, we can see that at least twenty marines have come through from Earth.)
SHEPPARD: Colonel, it's not that we don't appreciate the thought, but if you had read the report on the armada heading this way, you'd know that there's not much we can do about it.
EVERETT: Oh, I've read your report cover to cover, Major.
McKAY: You must have found a ZedPM. That's the only way they could have dialled in from Earth.
EVERETT: It was discovered in Egypt by a group of archaeologists. Damned thing's been under our noses the whole time!
McKAY: Fantastic! Wait a minute -- how could you possibly bring the ZedPM back here? You'd need it to maintain the wormhole.
EVERETT: As we speak, it is being transported up to the Daedalus, our new battle cruiser.
for everyone who said my list have flaws please explain why. as far as i know my list is perfect from a story-wise perspective.
also keep in mind that i want to keep it simple and don't want to put numbers in front of all the episodes, and that 'SGA' appears after 'SG1' on the dvd, if however i type "atlantis" it would appear before 'SG1'
so i can do either one depending on the order i want them to be seen.
please explain if you think some episode order is incorrect so that i can fix the list
why do you think that "echoes" and "the return" should be before "the shroud"?
and why Avalon before Intruders? (intruders should take place directly after the siege 3)
Last edited by AscendedThor; 03 August 2008, 02:23 AM.
for everyone who said my list have flaws please explain why. as far as i know my list is perfect from a story-wise perspective.
also keep in mind that i want to keep it simple and don't want to put numbers in front of all the episodes, and that 'SGA' appears after 'SG1' on the dvd, if however i type "atlantis" it would appear before 'SG1'
so i can do either one depending on the order i want them to be seen.
please explain if you think some episode order is incorrect so that i can fix the list
why do you think that "echoes" and "the return" should be before "the shroud"?
and why Avalon before Intruders? (intruders should take place directly after the siege 3)
Regarding Avalon before Intruders
Daniel makes many references to leaving on the Daedalus to Atlantis and that Atlantis just recently brought back some of the ancient database implying that it was their first trip back. Intruders is actually set a fair few weeks after The Seige, heck even the flashbacks in it are
Regarding The Shroud after The Return & Echoes
The ZPM issue. In the Shroud, Daniel uses the ZPM to give the Odyssey a cloak. The ZPM is one of the 3 that the Ancients left when the Replicators wiped them out in The Return and where they are to be sent is discussed in Echoes in the future tense, saying one will go to earth, one to the odyssey and one will stay on Atlantis
I'd also put Continuum between Search & Rescue and The Seed. IIRC (I may be wrong here) Sam said she'd only be gone a couple of weeks tops. The Seed is set about a month after Search & Rescue
as for Continuum I think it's set after the Seed because there's a mention of Carter being put in quarantine in the SGC because she's also been infected.
after they find the cure they probably send it to Earth to cure carter.
in Continuum she lived on Earth for over a year, so its strange that she would not develop symptoms during all that time.
that's why I think Continuum is set after The Seed.
As for "intruder" being after "Avalon" i don't think it has to be so. the ship leaving Earth in "Avalon" may have been its second trip to Atlantis, not the first.
anyway here's the new and revised list
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SG1 1007 Counterstrike
SG1 1008 Memento Mori
SG1 1009 Company Of Thieves
SG1 1010 The Quest (part 1)
SG1 1011 The Quest (part 2)
SG1 1012 Line in the Sand
SG1 1013 The Road not Taken
SGA 308 McKay And Mrs. Miller
SGA 309 Phantoms
SGA 310 The Return (part 1)
SGA 311 The Return (part 2)
SGA 312 Echoes
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Atlantis 313 Irresponsible
Atlantis 314 Tao of Rodney
Atlantis 315 The Game
Atlantis 316 The Ark
Atlantis 317 Sunday
SG1 1014 The Shroud
SG1 1015 Bounty
SG1 1016 Bad Guys
SG1 1017 Talion
SG1 1018 Family Ties
SG1 1019 Dominion
SG1 1020 Unending
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SG1 Ark of Truth
SGA 318 Submersion
SGA 319 Vengeance
SGA 320 First Strike
SGA 401 Adrift
SGA 402 LifeLine
SGA 403 Reunion
SGA 404 Doppelganger
SGA 405 Travellers
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SGA 406 Tabula Rasa
SGA 407 Missing
SGA 408 The Seer
SGA 409 Miller's Crossing
SGA 410 This Mortal Coil
SGA 411 Be All My Sins Remembered
SGA 412 Spoils of War
SGA 413 Quarantine
SGA 414 Harmony
SGA 415 Outcast
SGA 416 Trio
SGA 417 Midway
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Atlantis 418 The Kindred, part 1
Atlantis 419 The Kindred, part 2
Atlantis 420 The Last Man
Atlantis 501 Search and Rescue
Atlantis 502 The Seed
SG1 Continuum
SGA 503 Broken Ties
SGA 504 The Daedalus Variations
SGA 505 Ghost in the Machine
SGA 506 The Shrine
SGA 507 Whispers
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1. Atlantis sends a message to Earth by briefly opening the wormhole (message from pegasus). Earth doesn't have a ZPM and is unable to respond.
2. Earth finds a ZPM in egypt (end of Moebius).
3. Atlantis gets attacked by the Wraith (the Siege) and Earth sends help using the new ZPM.
there was a few weeks before "message from pegasus" until earth actually sent help in "the siege part 2". so Moebius definately took place after Message from pegasus. they simply sent help when they got the Zpm which was just before "the siege" because they couldn't do it before.
so there is no problem with my list with the order of those episodes. there was however another mistake, "SG1 the shroud" takes place after "SGA the return".
here is the new correct list:
SG1 721 Lost City 1
SG1 722 Lost City 2
SG1 801 New Order 1
SG1 802 New Order 2
SG1 803 Lockdown
SG1 804 Zero Hour
SG1 805 Icon
SGA 106 Childhood's End
SGA 107 Poisoning the Well
SGA 108 Underground
SGA 109 Home
SGA 110 The Storm
SGA 111 The Eye
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Atlantis 112 The Defiant One
Atlantis 113 Hot Zone
Atlantis 114 Sanctuary
Atlantis 115 Before I sleep
Atlantis 116 The Brotherhood
Atlantis 117 Letters From Pegasus
SG1 812 Prometheus Unbound
SG1 813 It's Good to be King
SG1 814 Full Alert
SG1 815 Citizen Joe
SG1 816 Reckoning part 1
SG1 817 Reckoning part 2
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SG1 818 Threads 1
SG1 818 Threads 2
SG1 819 Moebius part 1
SG1 820 Moebius part 2
SGA 118 The Gift
SGA 119 The Siege part 1
SGA 120 The Siege part 2
SGA 201 The Siege part 3
SGA 202 The Intruder
SGA 203 Runner
SGA 204 Duet
SGA 205 Condemned
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SG1 901 Avalon 1
SG1 902 Avalon 2
SG1 903 Origin
SG1 904 The Ties that Bind
SG1 905 The Powers that Be
SG1 906 Beachhead
SGA 206 Trinity
SGA 207 Instinct
SGA 208 Conversion
SGA 209 Aurora
SGA 210 The Lost Boys
SGA 211 The Hive
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SG1 907 Ex Deus Machina
SG1 908 Babylon
SG1 909 Prototype
SG1 910 The Fourth Horseman 1
SG1 911 The Fourth Horseman 2
SG1 912 Collateral Damage
SG1 913 Ripple Effect
SGA 212 Epiphany
SGA 213 Critical Mass
SGA 214 Grace Under Pressure
SGA 215 The Tower
SGA 216 The Long Goodbye
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SG1 914 Ethon
SG1 915 Stronghold
SG1 916 Off the Grid
SG1 917 The Scourge
SGA 217 Coup D'etat
SGA 218 Michael
SGA 219 Inferno
SGA 220 Allies
SGA 301 No Man's Land
SGA 302 The Misbegotten
SGA 303 Irresistible
SGA 304 Sateda
------------------------------------------------------------------
SG1 918 Arthur's mantle
SG1 919 Crusade
SG1 920 Camelot
SG1 1001 Flesh and Blood
SG1 1002 Morpheus
SG1 1003 The Pegasus Project
SG1 1004 Insiders
SG1 1005 Uninvited
SG1 1006 Two Hundred
SGA 305 Progeny
SGA 306 The Real World
SGA 307 Common Ground
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SG1 1007 Counterstrike
SG1 1008 Memento Mori
SG1 1009 Company Of Thieves
SG1 1010 The Quest (part 1)
SG1 1011 The Quest (part 2)
SG1 1012 Line in the Sand
SG1 1013 The Road not Taken
SGA 308 McKay And Mrs. Miller
SGA 309 Phantoms
SGA 310 The Return (part 1)
SGA 311 The Return (part 2)
SGA 312 Echoes
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Atlantis 313 Irresponsible
Atlantis 314 Tao of Rodney
Atlantis 315 The Game
Atlantis 316 The Ark
Atlantis 317 Sunday
SG1 1014 The Shroud
SG1 1015 Bounty
SG1 1016 Bad Guys
SG1 1017 Talion
SG1 1018 Family Ties
SG1 1019 Dominion
SG1 1020 Unending
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SG1 Ark of Truth
SGA 318 Submersion
SGA 319 Vengeance
SGA 320 First Strike
SGA 401 Adrift
SGA 402 LifeLine
SGA 403 Reunion
SGA 404 Doppelganger
SGA 405 Travellers
------------------------------------------------------------------
SGA 406 Tabula Rasa
SGA 407 Missing
SGA 408 The Seer
SGA 409 Miller's Crossing
SGA 410 This Mortal Coil
SGA 411 Be All My Sins Remembered
SGA 412 Spoils of War
SGA 413 Quarantine
SGA 414 Harmony
SGA 415 Outcast
SGA 416 Trio
SGA 417 Midway
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Atlantis 418 The Kindred, part 1
Atlantis 419 The Kindred, part 2
Atlantis 420 The Last Man
Atlantis 501 Search and Rescue
Atlantis 502 The Seed
SG1 Continuum
SGA 503 Broken Ties
SGA 504 The Daedalus Variations
SGA 505 Ghost in the Machine
SGA 506 The Shrine
SGA 507 Whispers
Last edited by AscendedThor; 03 August 2008, 04:44 AM.
Looks better, although I'd put The Road Not Taken after McKay and Mrs. Miller as Sam talks to Alt. Rodney regarding the experiments the other version of him and Jeannie do in that episode.
I am pretty sure that the trip to Atlantis in Avalon is the one seen in Intruders though
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