"Not surprising since it does take the sun’s light about 8 minutes to reach earth.
It doesn’t seem all that out of the ordinary for a shock wave traveling at the speed of light to “appear” to be moving slowly towards the fleet."
okay yeah im new here so bear with me lol
the shockwave would have travelled at the speed of light
but immediately after the sun exploded the gravitaional forces in the whole solar system would have changed, therefore they should have noticed that the sun had gone supernova and been able to leave so, it does seem a little silly, the eight minute rule only applies to where the ships were in the system as they could have been 5 lm away or 20 lm for all we know.
"The Q are basically ascended beings but with less restrictions (they have some but it seems like they're free to do what they want as long as they don't blow up the universe) than the Ori or Ancients.
Riker (a human) was "ascended" (for a brief time) to the level of the Q and we know that a Q can be descended (happened a couple of times) to human levels."
i remember in the fourth horseman p1 Orlin said "nor is such an endeavour at that level necessarily the next best step to further enlightenment"
now i dont know about you but it seems to me that there are further levels to ascension and the ancients who are but a few thousand..maybe millions of years old are more than likely on the first rung to higher enlightenment.
The Q are billions of years old, Q said it himself in one episode..i think a Voyager one [tries to forget] so i think the Q would be at a point of owning the ancients, and as has been said many...MANY times the Q could easy just zap the ancients out of existence.
on a further note..to say that the Q could be killed by Q weapons..remember who made them..if the ancients ever came up against the Q continuum..they wouldnt know where to start.
and also i am more than sure that Starfleet of the 24th century is easily on a par with the Asgard, and the 29th century Starfleet cud easy woop the Asgard and the Ori..the only reason starfleets ships get batted about in battles is because the weapons in star trek are far more powerful.
rant over
Chris
It doesn’t seem all that out of the ordinary for a shock wave traveling at the speed of light to “appear” to be moving slowly towards the fleet."
okay yeah im new here so bear with me lol
the shockwave would have travelled at the speed of light
but immediately after the sun exploded the gravitaional forces in the whole solar system would have changed, therefore they should have noticed that the sun had gone supernova and been able to leave so, it does seem a little silly, the eight minute rule only applies to where the ships were in the system as they could have been 5 lm away or 20 lm for all we know.
"The Q are basically ascended beings but with less restrictions (they have some but it seems like they're free to do what they want as long as they don't blow up the universe) than the Ori or Ancients.
Riker (a human) was "ascended" (for a brief time) to the level of the Q and we know that a Q can be descended (happened a couple of times) to human levels."
i remember in the fourth horseman p1 Orlin said "nor is such an endeavour at that level necessarily the next best step to further enlightenment"
now i dont know about you but it seems to me that there are further levels to ascension and the ancients who are but a few thousand..maybe millions of years old are more than likely on the first rung to higher enlightenment.
The Q are billions of years old, Q said it himself in one episode..i think a Voyager one [tries to forget] so i think the Q would be at a point of owning the ancients, and as has been said many...MANY times the Q could easy just zap the ancients out of existence.
on a further note..to say that the Q could be killed by Q weapons..remember who made them..if the ancients ever came up against the Q continuum..they wouldnt know where to start.
and also i am more than sure that Starfleet of the 24th century is easily on a par with the Asgard, and the 29th century Starfleet cud easy woop the Asgard and the Ori..the only reason starfleets ships get batted about in battles is because the weapons in star trek are far more powerful.
rant over
Chris
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