Why do you think they can only travel at the speed of light? Or on that note, why do you think they need to travel at all?
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostOn the Oma front.. i felt her using the gate was also more for symbolism than any actual purpose..If you're interested in reading my longest fanfic story, which is an action/adventure story involving the elusive Furlings (as well as if you want to read the others), please click the link below.
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Originally posted by morrismike View Posteven if it were made they would have had to first "move" a planet and sun for raw materialsIf you're interested in reading my longest fanfic story, which is an action/adventure story involving the elusive Furlings (as well as if you want to read the others), please click the link below.
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Originally posted by morrismike View Posteven GOD has to comply with his own laws (physics)If you're interested in reading my longest fanfic story, which is an action/adventure story involving the elusive Furlings (as well as if you want to read the others), please click the link below.
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Originally posted by morrismike View Posteven GOD has to comply with his own laws (physics)
a good name for any act like those is 'supernatural' - that is, outside what we understand to be the laws of physics and nature. we do not know everything about the universe though, and so - while we cannot explain 'miracles' - it does not mean that there is no explanation.
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Originally posted by StargateWatcher View Postsorry confused--symbolizing what theme?
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Originally posted by StargateWatcher View Postbut couldn't such a higher being even change the laws temporarily in a designated region of space?
Temporarily nullifying a force such as gravity is entirely different than creating something from thin air. I've never really understood why people aren't on board with the planet/sun being moved being far simpler than snapping your fingers to create them from thin air. Obviously the planet "movers" aren't that sophisticated/godlike as replicating/cloning lifeforms is beyond them.
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Originally posted by Keeper View Poststictly, no: miracles (heal the sick, blind see, lame walk, whatever) by their very definition have to defy physics (an incurable cancer shouldn't disappear with no trace it was ever there.)
a good name for any act like those is 'supernatural' - that is, outside what we understand to be the laws of physics and nature. we do not know everything about the universe though, and so - while we cannot explain 'miracles' - it does not mean that there is no explanation.
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Originally posted by morrismike View Postcreating things from thin air is outside of anything to ever be considered science, moving things would be low tech to an advanced uberrace
Originally posted by StargateWatcher View Postbut couldn't they just create the raw materials out of raw matter instead, assuming they were advanced to this particular lofty degree to do so?
space debris is something. asteroids something. the stuff appeared from apparent nothingness - but even motion would have some indication, unless it were well beyond any speed the sensors can detect. on the other hand, phasing out materials makes them (to our understanding) undetectable, shown when carter can't be found in the SGC (phased to another dimension admittedly) or when using merlin's device (and searched for by a prior using ori-enhanced senses.) the ascended beings we know of (ancients and ori both, as well as those like oma desala) are normally outside our phase or senses, so far as we know.
a creator deity would have power to create even from nothing (i.e. god) - the universe is a pretty shocking example, from a religious perspective
but an alien advanced enough to be similar to an ascended being already has methodology to phase-shift - giving them a means of working without detection, and they could use whichever method was simply most convenient
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