Repairing the destiny

[Quadhelix]

also the tech merlin used was old alteran MW tech not modern top of the line Pegasus tech so IMO it def plausible that the ancients have used matter conversion tech for a long time.

I'm going to take issue with describing Pegasus-era Ancient technology as "top of the line." The Ancients that fled to Pegasus were effectively refugees. By that point, the Plague had wiped out almost their entire civilization, so it seems quite likely that the Ancients in Pegasus were in what amounts to a Dark Age.

ive read 3.3 thousand years somewhere to go from the ori galaxy to the MW but that might have been a fanfiction... anyhoo Jackson said several thousand years i believe.

Actually, he said that the phrase could mean "thousands," but he wasn't sure - it could very well have meant "millions."

but the sketch had the glyphs drawn on it not the SGU lettering. but continuity issues (yet again)

All that that means is that the Destiny 'Gates are not advanced enough to use constellation glyphs (given the range of the 'Gates).

Or, you know, since the Destiny is constantly on the move and the 'Gate-seeders have to seed dozens of different galaxies, using constellations for the glyphs does not make sense.

[Alx]

I'm going to take issue with describing Pegasus-era Ancient technology as "top of the line." The Ancients that fled to Pegasus were effectively refugees. By that point, the Plague had wiped out almost their entire civilization, so it seems quite likely that the Ancients in Pegasus were in what amounts to a Dark Age.

in your oppinion yes but mckay states in the ep were he blows up 3/4 of a solar system "Their latest stuff to... well their latest being 10 000 years old"
and there has been no indication of this suposed "dark age" as some of the most ingenious inventions were invented while they were in pegasus also this has never been stated in the show.

Actually, he said that the phrase could mean "thousands," but he wasn't sure - it could very well have meant "millions."

again in your oppinion yes, and if he was sure or not wasnt clear, and you are specualting, its still a continuety error imo. and when did 1000 start meaning 1000 000?

All that that means is that the Destiny 'Gates are not advanced enough to use constellation glyphs (given the range of the 'Gates).

more speculation. but im inclined to agree.

Or, you know, since the Destiny is constantly on the move and the 'Gate-seeders have to seed dozens of different galaxies, using constellations for the glyphs does not make sense.

that still doesnt solve the CONSTANT inconsintency errors TPTB are responsible for.

[tinerin]

All that that means is that the Destiny 'Gates are not advanced enough to use constellation glyphs (given the range of the 'Gates).

Or, you know, since the Destiny is constantly on the move and the 'Gate-seeders have to seed dozens of different galaxies, using constellations for the glyphs does not make sense.

Mallozzi has stated that the range of Destiny stargates is a power issue since they have no DHD's...even though it hasn't been explicitly stated, I'd assume that the range limit on the stargate aboard the Destiny is a safety mechanism to ensure that the remote DHD can dial back to the Destiny....

It was actually stated when SGU was first announced that the Destiny stargate glyphs are like a generic Ancient coordinate system whereas Milky Way and Pegasus gates use a more galaxy-specific coordinate system...which makes sense since the purpose of Destiny's stargates are for Ancient exploration whereas the Milky Way and Pegasus gate networks were designed for the developing human societies to be able to interact with each other and with the Ancients so using constellations would make the system easier for humans to decipher...

As far as the glyphs at the beginning of Ark of Truth...the movie was released like a year before they even came up with the concept for SGU...besides the fact that, as Quadhelix stated, the scene would have been impossible unless the Alterans knew exactly where they were going before they left, scrapping an entire series because of a two second scene is kind of stupid...which is the whole point of a retcon...

[the-alguroan]

for the whole sketch thing you have to remember that when artists come up with an idea, the first idea will change as they work on it. from what the sketch showed us we saw a wheel without many details, so from that we can conclude that its just a light conception.

also i believe they used those glyphs so that fans could see that was the orignal gate designs being made, also aren't the destinys gates suppose to work slightly differently because they are and early model and meant to work for a for any galaxy

[Eberhardt]

What ever repair system the ship has, (if it has one) is probably offline. The ship has been flying around a long time, think of the life support, it was totally shot when they arrived. They could have an army of broken repair robots sitting somewhere they cant access... (Just thought of the irony involved in broken repair robots... lol) but wouldn't it be funny if Eli tripped over a little Wall-E looking robot on his way to the gate...

[Steelbox]

What ever repair system the ship has, (if it has one) is probably offline. The ship has been flying around a long time, think of the life support, it was totally shot when they arrived. They could have an army of broken repair robots sitting somewhere they cant access... (Just thought of the irony involved in broken repair robots... lol) but wouldn't it be funny if Eli tripped over a little Wall-E looking robot on his way to the gate...

I can only imagine lol.

Young: What is it you found Eli
Eli: Pit droids!
Young: What?
Eli: Pit Droids! Starwars Episode 1 anyone?

[Cmdr. Setsuna F. Seyei]

omg!!

i was actually thinking a bit older

more like twiggy

beedee beedee beedee

[lordofseas]

in your oppinion yes but mckay states in the ep were he blows up 3/4 of a solar system "Their latest stuff to... well their latest being 10 000 years old"
and there has been no indication of this suposed "dark age" as some of the most ingenious inventions were invented while they were in pegasus also this has never been stated in the show.



again in your oppinion yes, and if he was sure or not wasnt clear, and you are specualting, its still a continuety error imo. and when did 1000 start meaning 1000 000?




more speculation. but im inclined to agree.


that still doesnt solve the CONSTANT inconsintency errors TPTB are responsible for.

They're never going to get fixed. They're constants.

[Alx]

Lol like gravity

[lordofseas]

Lol like gravity

Or chocolate. Mmmm...

[Seastallion]

I would have put some repair systems on Destiny itself, but seeders sound like a descent backup.

Seriously, one would think that given the long term and isolated nature of the mission that the ship WOULD have some self repair capabilities. I mean, c'mon...! Isn't being stranded on a ship a universe away from home ENOUGH without having to worry about the ship making it to the next episode, nevermind the whole season??? I HOPE the characters suddenly discover that there is this self repair mechanism that is just offline, and after they fix the 'on' switch, everybody can then breathe a little easier and actually concentrate on ways of getting home or whatever, instead of a constant parade of "oh god, oh god, we're about to die". It feels like Dragonball Z taking 10 episodes to complete a single battle between two characters... Get to it already..!

[kymeric]

Being so old I would imagine Destiny has programs and systems to repair itsself. That would mean either the damage is recent, or it lacks something needed to repair. Or maybe it has repaired itsself and it was alot more badly damaged before now.

I wonder if it could recall a seeder ship and cannibalize it for parts?

[kymeric]

agreed.
i wonder do TPTB even read what they write? it doesnt seem like they do.

Not everything needs explaining or is conductive to building a tvshow. Its nitpicky details that forced Star Trek into a dying fringe market that had to throw out nearly all of its continuity. And after it did it gained more followers than it ever had.

It may be fun (at first) to pick apart every little detail of a show, but theres a point where it turns sour and leaves a bad taste to everyone involved or who sees it. Then it only hurts a show/franchise and drives it into the ground. I get that we like a show and feel like we own it, but its almost like people need a constant reminder that it isn't real. Doing that either kills the show, or the show gets inevitably retooled and the haters get left behind to get even more angry and isolated.

Are people like this with basketball and football? Or is there a limit where you give up on your team and realize its something different than it was when you started watching and change your opinion?

/endsoapbox

[mirdin1992]

What we are interested in a show are plot consistencies and in scifi shows people want it to mostly follow the laws of physics. Also if the writers wouldn't have the fear of us coming down on them and ripping every inconsistent and stupid detail of the show they make the quality of entertainment would drop dramatically.

ZOR

[kymeric]

What we are interested in a show are plot consistencies and in scifi shows people want it to mostly follow the laws of physics. Also if the writers wouldn't have the fear of us coming down on them and ripping every inconsistent and stupid detail of the show they make the quality of entertainment would drop dramatically.

It is fiction though. We accept that wolves talk when we read little red riding hood because it services the story that's being told. Why is it ok to ignore some impossibilities and not others? Beaming through the shields for 4 years is ok, but when they have to be lowered one time for the plot to move forward its somehow unacceptable? Why not go into it looking come up with reasons WHY it could have happened that what instead of screaming plot hole? I complain about everything all the time in real life, why would i want to complain about my hobby, that I use to escape from the problems of real life. Seems like that would ruin it and defeat the purpose imho.

Just a suggestion, do with it what you will, but next time just brainstorm a couple semi plausable explanations why or how something could have happened to make such and such happen.