* ahem *
back to the 'which one is older' debate.
There are two main reasons I'd say that destiny is older.
The gate system. These gates are an older model with more limited range, and without DHD's.
The chair.
But some reasons why it doesn't really make sense to me: Why did the ancients send out this ship on intergalactic quest while they were still building their civilisation in the milkyway? Were they that adventurous they were willing to build a dozen huge ships and send them away?
And the antartica gate was dated 50 million years I believe? I can not imagine destiny being over 50 million years old. So how come the milkyway system ( that is more advanced than the destiny's gates, as established above ) is older than the destiny gates. Or could it be possible the ancients embarked on a gigantic "updating the gates"- project, improving the range and adding DHD's?
If some details were different ( milky way system equally as advanced as destiny gate system, and personally I imagine FTL being older than hyperdrive, as it appears to be a lot slower ( with hyperdrive you cross a galaxy in 1 day ) ) than it would make perfect sense and I imagine it would be like this:
- Ancients leave the Ori behind and "find a great belt of stars"
- They start building their civilisation in the milky way and spread out across millions of worlds. The ancients flourish. Ships are using FTL, either invented in the milky way, or already when they lived with the Ori.
- The industrious fellows embark on a big project and build a number of huge ships to send out into the universe. Most are built to seed stargates, and years later the 'destiny' follows them to explore the galaxies they've been to.
- Hyperdrive is invented somewhere around this time.
- Destiny has been away for quite some time, the plague strikes the ancients in the milky way and millions die, the civilisation is on the brink of destruction.
- Atlantis, either made earlier ( as a new generation of ship/city ) or around this time specifically to escape the plague and start anew, leaves earth and the milkyway, they go to pegasus.
- Pegasus is seeded with life, ancient flourish, wraith encountered, war, ancients flee back to earth and ascend or die out.
- The Tau'ri make it onto destiny
- We start having debates about the timeline.
My two cents, I'm proud of it.
back to the 'which one is older' debate.
There are two main reasons I'd say that destiny is older.
The gate system. These gates are an older model with more limited range, and without DHD's.
- The lack of DHD's: Good to have remotes, but it defeats the idea of the gate system to travel freely among worlds, apparently the concept hasn't been worked out fully. The lack of DHD's can be explained however by saying the ancients didn't suply the planets with DHD's so the gate system couldn't be used by other races in those galaxies. Kinda mean don't ya think?
- The range: main issue is that these gates apparently have a shorter range, otherwise why would there only be a few adresses available ( in Air II & III ) , or why would the destiny constantly have to be moving. If the gates had more range then it could drop out of FTL at the edge of a galaxy and start dailing with abandon untill it needed to get some power.
This shorter range indicates that the gates are less advanced, and don't have the range of milky way and pegasus gates. These appear to be an older model, older than the milky way and pegasus.
The chair.
- also a few reasons why the chair indicates destiny is older. Rush has mentioned ( consistently ) that the chair was built early in the ancient's evolution and the effects would be less severe, the ancient's physiology wasn't as evolutionarily advanced as it was during the pegasus/atlantis - era. This indicates that this chair was built far before they left for pegasus, because why would they build a chair for someone with less advanced physiology?
- The milkyway has these brain-uploader repositories, meant to be used by a race evolutionarily highly advanced. It appears that destiny was sent out with the less advanced chair ( with bolts ) while the ancients were still setting up their civilisation in the milky way. Long after the destiny took off the ancients had evolved so far they could create those repositories ( and use them ). And Atlantis appears to be more modern than those repositories.
But some reasons why it doesn't really make sense to me: Why did the ancients send out this ship on intergalactic quest while they were still building their civilisation in the milkyway? Were they that adventurous they were willing to build a dozen huge ships and send them away?
And the antartica gate was dated 50 million years I believe? I can not imagine destiny being over 50 million years old. So how come the milkyway system ( that is more advanced than the destiny's gates, as established above ) is older than the destiny gates. Or could it be possible the ancients embarked on a gigantic "updating the gates"- project, improving the range and adding DHD's?
If some details were different ( milky way system equally as advanced as destiny gate system, and personally I imagine FTL being older than hyperdrive, as it appears to be a lot slower ( with hyperdrive you cross a galaxy in 1 day ) ) than it would make perfect sense and I imagine it would be like this:
- Ancients leave the Ori behind and "find a great belt of stars"
- They start building their civilisation in the milky way and spread out across millions of worlds. The ancients flourish. Ships are using FTL, either invented in the milky way, or already when they lived with the Ori.
- The industrious fellows embark on a big project and build a number of huge ships to send out into the universe. Most are built to seed stargates, and years later the 'destiny' follows them to explore the galaxies they've been to.
- Hyperdrive is invented somewhere around this time.
- Destiny has been away for quite some time, the plague strikes the ancients in the milky way and millions die, the civilisation is on the brink of destruction.
- Atlantis, either made earlier ( as a new generation of ship/city ) or around this time specifically to escape the plague and start anew, leaves earth and the milkyway, they go to pegasus.
- Pegasus is seeded with life, ancient flourish, wraith encountered, war, ancients flee back to earth and ascend or die out.
- The Tau'ri make it onto destiny
- We start having debates about the timeline.
My two cents, I'm proud of it.
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