All you ever wanted to know about the 9th chevron

[Atlantean 7921]

Not necessarily. The Stargates that Jack imputted in the SGC computer while under the Ancient Library's influence (The Fifth Race) were not on the Abydos cartouche, therefore unknown to the Goa'uld, and some had human life on it. Also, in Atlantis' "Rising", the hologram of that hottie Ancient stated that they seeded the Pegasus galaxy with human life. The Stargate is a great mass distribution method.

The Ancients spread humans over Milky Way.Then a gallactic plague wiped out nearly all life in the Milky Way. So the Ancients then made a divice that can be used to make/destroy any kind of life disired and was capable of being sent through the stargate. They built it on Dak'ara and hid it in Mount Dak'ara. Later in the seires Anubis attempts to use this machine to wipe out life in the galaxy and then remake it in his own immage. Luckily the members of SG-1 save the day once again!

[Matthew Jackson]

Perhaps the Ninth Chevron serves as Authentication.
Gates that have been made unaccessible by any regular dial-up. XXXXXXLGA wouldn't be the correct format then, but rather a 9 symbol address that corresponds directly to one of these Gates, where the X, L G & A parameters aren't required.

[hawkmajor]

Perhaps the Ninth Chevron serves as Authentication.
Gates that have been made unaccessible by any regular dial-up. XXXXXXLGA wouldn't be the correct format then, but rather a 9 symbol address that corresponds directly to one of these Gates, where the X, L G & A parameters aren't required.

so 9 chevron addresses are part of a closed system?

[Titus]

Only problem with extensions in my mind is that the Ancients were more advanced than the Asgard and the Asgard and teleport to any location on a planet from a ship. So wouldn't it be more likely that the Ancients used a handheld device (or something else) to teleport all over the planet, rather than makign multiple gates for one planet?

Remembering that while the Ancients were more advanced than the Asgard, the Asgards' technology is different. ZPM's might not need to be utilized.
Although apparently they can be jimmy rigged to fit any situation. Seems a good plot device.

Anyways, as far as physics go the ancients seemed to have been reaching some interesting limits... The Asgard would likely reach some similar limit.
Also, as far as beaming tech goes the Ancients didn't seem to have it all kinds of down pat. The most they had is similar to Wraith in that they could do it all about the Atlantis city and other city-ships.

As I've said before, I'm tired. I'll check this up on tomorrow.

[fallenexile452]

so 9 chevron addresses are part of a closed system?

That is a possibility. I'd guess there's only 2 nine chevron addresses, one to get to the destiny and one to get back to earth.

Spoiler:

where the destiny is supposed to be dialled from, as mentioned in the 5 minute preview

As the destiny is moving around it would make sense that the addresses automatically seeks the specific gate wherever it is in the universe rather than seeking the spacial coordinates and then connecting to a gate in that region.

Spoiler:

this is based on rush saying they have known the address for awhile, that means that given the ship is moving the address is static

[gooran]

Okay, we all know the basic deal: 1-6 are for a location, 7th is a Point of Origin.

So Normal Address:
XXXXXXY
X-Location
Y-Point of Origin

Okay, now from the 5th race and Atlantis we have 8-Chevron address:
XXXXXXAY
X-Location
A-"Area Code" (Galaxy Address)
Y-Point of Origin

Alright, now we have the 9th Chevron which has yet to be used, now here is an idea i read and i kinda like it: an Extension. This would come into play when there is more than one gate in a given area. Now i know you already think: well, duh, that cant be true because we had two gates, and we never needed to use the 9th chevron. Well right you are, because if the Ninth isnt used it goes the to the Primary gate, which so happened to be ours.

Okay, so here is how i think a 9 Gate Address would go.
XXXXXXABY
X-Location
A-"Area Code" (Galaxy Address)
B-"Extension" (Gate Selector)
Y-Point of Origin.

Now if you wanted to go to a planet with more than one gate in the same galaxy you just ignore the area code, which would just mean that it activates a different chevron.

In other words, each chevron has a duty, even in a 8 or 9 glyph address

1-6 are ALWAYS destination glyphs
7 is ALWAYS point of origin
8 is ALWAYS galactic addresses
9 is ALWAYS a gate selector

all thats different is the order the chevrons activate.
for a normal connection its: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
for a out of galaxy its 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-7
for an extension its 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-9-7 if out of galaxy
for an extension in galaxy is 1-2-3-4-5-6-9-7

okay, what do you think?

doesn't matter how many chevrons are used the last chevron is always the point of origin ALWAYS

[Quadhelix]

As the destiny is moving around it would make sense that the addresses automatically seeks the specific gate wherever it is in the universe rather than seeking the spacial coordinates and then connecting to a gate in that region.

Spoiler:

this is based on rush saying they have known the address for awhile, that means that given the ship is moving the address is static

Not necessarily.

If each 9-chevron address were to represent a region the size of galaxy or cluster (not entirely impossible: a regular 7-chevron address covers hundreds of stars), then the Destiny could travel for years or even decades without going far enough to reach a new address.

doesn't matter how many chevrons are used the last chevron is always the point of origin ALWAYS

If you will notice, he said that "7" was the Point of Origin and gave the orders:

for a normal connection its: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
for a out of galaxy its 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-7
for an extension its 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-9-7 if out of galaxy
for an extension in galaxy is 1-2-3-4-5-6-9-7

In other words, he still had the Point of Origin as the last symbol. Also, you should note that the Point of Origin isn't a "chevron," which is one of the vaguely triangular things, it is a "glyph" (i.e., symbol).


Anyway, my question on that is how someone would engage the ninth chevron without engaging the eighth first.

[hawkmajor]

Not necessarily.

If each 9-chevron address were to represent a region the size of galaxy or cluster (not entirely impossible: a regular 7-chevron address covers hundreds of stars), then the Destiny could travel for years or even decades without going far enough to reach a new address.



If you will notice, he said that "7" was the Point of Origin and gave the orders:



In other words, he still had the Point of Origin as the last symbol. Also, you should note that the Point of Origin isn't a "chevron," which is one of the vaguely triangular things, it is a "glyph" (i.e., symbol).


Anyway, my question on that is how someone would engage the ninth chevron without engaging the eighth first.

i reckon that's a scripting error
yeah, i've been wondering that for a while now: i understand how they could do it on the dialing computer - Carter/McKay could invent a program that "tells" the gate to move straight to the 9th chevron, but to a DHD, how did they do it?

[HamishRules]

Hi Guys,
My theory,
7 chevron= same galaxy
8 chevron= different galaxy
9 chevron= different universe

[hawkmajor]

Hi Guys,
My theory,
7 chevron= same galaxy
8 chevron= different galaxy
9 chevron= different universe

thats a good one, but i still stand by the original theory

[HamishRules]

Thanks HawkMajor, I also like the first theory.

[hawkmajor]

Thanks HawkMajor, I also like the first theory.

thats ok, i actually prefer thr first one though

[lordofseas]

Different universe? As in...alternate universe?

[lordofseas]

Not necessarily.

If each 9-chevron address were to represent a region the size of galaxy or cluster (not entirely impossible: a regular 7-chevron address covers hundreds of stars), then the Destiny could travel for years or even decades without going far enough to reach a new address.



If you will notice, he said that "7" was the Point of Origin and gave the orders:



In other words, he still had the Point of Origin as the last symbol. Also, you should note that the Point of Origin isn't a "chevron," which is one of the vaguely triangular things, it is a "glyph" (i.e., symbol).


Anyway, my question on that is how someone would engage the ninth chevron without engaging the eighth first.

By engaging your own galaxy's chevron?

[Quadhelix]

By engaging your own galaxy's chevron?

I think that when you say, "your own galaxy's chevron," you mean "your own galaxy's eighth chevron glyph," but I can't be sure.

In any case, that would still be a 1-2-3-4-5-6-8-9-7 dial, not a 1-2-3-4-5-6-9-7 dial, so that isn't what the person was describing.

Also, there is the little issue of how someone could...

Spoiler:

...reach the Destiny...

...using such a system, now that I actually look at it. The way it was described, it couldn't get any further than the eighth chevron could.