All you ever wanted to know about the 9th chevron

[./freelancer]

I did not read all preceeding pages of the thread, so forgive me ignorance. So then we do not know for certain what the purpose of the 9th Chevron is? I thought it had been confirmed or at least highly implied that the 9th Chevron was involved in furthering the distance of the Stargate's capacity. I believe it was previously referred to in the thread as an Area Code.
Anyway, thats what my guess would be as any futher understanding of the Stargate has not lead to much that would suggest the Stargate has any real purpose other than travel.
Anyway.

As far as I know, most stuff in this thread is speculation. Because we haven't seen the 9th chevron used in the show (ever), we can't know for sure what it's purpose is. As for other uses, the ancients did experiment with time travel (albeit rather unsuccessful) on P4X-639.

[Okohme]

That's true. I'm just saying that my vote is for the extra distance funtion.

[Xicer]

Yea, I think the extra distance calculation idea is the most popular and plausible idea right now.

[Col. Newman]

Yea, I think the extra distance calculation idea is the most popular and plausible idea right now.

Yes it is and that is what Owen and I have always said, but it seems the PTB have decided that

Spoiler for Stargate Universe (if you haven't at least considered this then you aren't too bright)

Spoiler:

The 9th Chevron goes to other universes

I am not talking about alternate realities.

[Aryk Celestis]

Uhm, but how would that work if it goes to other universes and it's not an alternate reality?

[Col. Newman]

Uhm, but how would that work if it goes to other universes and it's not an alternate reality?

Other universes are extremely far away and they are what they are called other universes. Alternate realities would occur in our won universe just in a different reality. The other universes would have their own set of infinite alternate realities.

The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.

But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.


The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)

[nereik.boy genius]

i heard it leads to a new series

[Aryk Celestis]

Other universes are extremely far away and they are what they are called other universes. Alternate realities would occur in our won universe just in a different reality. The other universes would have their own set of infinite alternate realities.

The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.

But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.


The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)

Ooh, I see... Now it makes sense.

I wonder how they'll make that work, though... I mean, one thing I always found a little weird about Stargate is how every planet they go to seems so Earth-like. With the knowledge that the Ancients were human-like and that they placed the Stargates across the galaxy, it makes sense, but if there are going to be SG teams travelling to whole different universes and all worlds they visit still have the perfect conditions for human life, well... That would just be too weird.

I agree with the time-travelling. The only real instance where SG-1 time-travelled through the Stargate was an accident, but I doubt that the Ancients would have built in a time-travel Chevron. Especially since they couldn't get that other time-travel device from 'Window of Opportunity' even to work.

[Lord You]

Alternate realities, alternate timelines, etcetera are other universes, by definition. A universe is a space time continium. Two universes are distinct if they contain a different configuration of matter and energy in them. Alternate realities fit this definition. Therefore alternate realities are seperate universes. Alternate timelines of the same universe also end up with the same effect as an alternate reality. Things are different than the "canonical unvierse". So alternate timeline, alternate realities, and alternate universes must be equilivant.

[Xicer]

Oh! I know! It'll open a gateway to Thirdspace!

Sorry I've been watching too much B5.

[InfernoSG1]

sorry i didnt really wanna read 50+ pages to see if this idea has been 'voiced' yet but here goes:

what if the ninth chevron has the stargate dial to a higher plane of existence?

i havent really worked out all the tweaks in this theory but it seems pretty cool.

also the whole "gates to another universe" theory seems a bit farfetched. theres only one universe....once you start talking about other universes you start talking about alternate realities....basically what Lord You said:

Alternate realities, alternate timelines, etcetera are other universes, by definition. A universe is a space time continium. Two universes are distinct if they contain a different configuration of matter and energy in them. Alternate realities fit this definition. Therefore alternate realities are seperate universes. Alternate timelines of the same universe also end up with the same effect as an alternate reality. Things are different than the "canonical unvierse". So alternate timeline, alternate realities, and alternate universes must be equilivant.

[eluvatar]

ok umm... time travel lame, universe lame because from what we know of physics there is only one universe not to be confused with alt reality, altreality lame reason upabove, ascension come on....

I think that because from what I have read about SGU

Spoiler:

the 9th chev plays a large roll in the show so http://www.gateworld.net/news/2007/0...nth_chev.shtml

it cant be a one time thing which means it cant take like looooots of power (unless they find looots of power where ever they are) because they use it all the time. ok so I think it has to do with the show SGU I think it has to do with finding out what the 9th chev has to do with like they find some reference in the asguard database that it could lead to Clava Thessara Infinitas or "clavath" (key to infinite treasure(please excuse spelling )) and it leads them to another galaxy and that is what the show is about not using the 9th chev but finding out what it dose and how to use it and once they find it they have to get back home or fight their new badguy with the stuff they find

[Esquin]

Other universes are extremely far away and they are what they are called other universes. Alternate realities would occur in our won universe just in a different reality. The other universes would have their own set of infinite alternate realities.

The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.

But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.


The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)

Ummmm. Noooooo.

The way it works is...

1 Universe. Many alternate realities breaking off from that universes timeline. And then 10 dimensions built onto that universe.

And for the record the Stargate explanation of dimensions is ... lets just say less then accurate to save 2 pages worth of explanation shall we.

But the short of it is that there is only 1 universe which all these other things build on. By deffinition the Universe is everything that exists.

[DarkSullivan]

It make sence.

[Col. Newman]

Ummmm. Noooooo.

The way it works is...

1 Universe. Many alternate realities breaking off from that universes timeline.

mmk

And then 10 dimensions built onto that universe.

And for the record the Stargate explanation of dimensions is ... lets just say less then accurate to save 2 pages worth of explanation shall we.

But the short of it is that there is only 1 universe which all these other things build on. By deffinition the Universe is everything that exists.

What do you mean 10 dimensions built on to that universe. I was under the impression that there are 14 dimensions and they are all measurements.