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Yea, I think the extra distance calculation idea is the most popular and plausible idea right now.Folding@Home|Babylon 5 Canon Guide
Delenn: This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw,...or be destroyed.
Earth Captain: Negative. We have authority here. Do not force us to engage your ship.
Delenn: Why not? Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.
--Babylon 5 - "Severed Dreams"
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Originally posted by Xicer View PostYea, I think the extra distance calculation idea is the most popular and plausible idea right now.
Spoiler for Stargate Universe (if you haven't at least considered this then you aren't too bright)
Spoiler:
The 9th Chevron goes to other universes
I am not talking about alternate realities.
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Originally posted by Aryk Celestis View PostUhm, but how would that work if it goes to other universes and it's not an alternate reality?
The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.
But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.
The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)
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Originally posted by Col. Newman View PostOther universes are extremely far away and they are what they are called other universes. Alternate realities would occur in our won universe just in a different reality. The other universes would have their own set of infinite alternate realities.
The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.
But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.
The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)
I wonder how they'll make that work, though... I mean, one thing I always found a little weird about Stargate is how every planet they go to seems so Earth-like. With the knowledge that the Ancients were human-like and that they placed the Stargates across the galaxy, it makes sense, but if there are going to be SG teams travelling to whole different universes and all worlds they visit still have the perfect conditions for human life, well... That would just be too weird.
I agree with the time-travelling. The only real instance where SG-1 time-travelled through the Stargate was an accident, but I doubt that the Ancients would have built in a time-travel Chevron. Especially since they couldn't get that other time-travel device from 'Window of Opportunity' even to work.
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Alternate realities, alternate timelines, etcetera are other universes, by definition. A universe is a space time continium. Two universes are distinct if they contain a different configuration of matter and energy in them. Alternate realities fit this definition. Therefore alternate realities are seperate universes. Alternate timelines of the same universe also end up with the same effect as an alternate reality. Things are different than the "canonical unvierse". So alternate timeline, alternate realities, and alternate universes must be equilivant.
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Oh! I know! It'll open a gateway to Thirdspace!
Sorry I've been watching too much B5.Folding@Home|Babylon 5 Canon Guide
Delenn: This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw,...or be destroyed.
Earth Captain: Negative. We have authority here. Do not force us to engage your ship.
Delenn: Why not? Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.
--Babylon 5 - "Severed Dreams"
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sorry i didnt really wanna read 50+ pages to see if this idea has been 'voiced' yet but here goes:
what if the ninth chevron has the stargate dial to a higher plane of existence?
i havent really worked out all the tweaks in this theory but it seems pretty cool.
also the whole "gates to another universe" theory seems a bit farfetched. theres only one universe....once you start talking about other universes you start talking about alternate realities....basically what Lord You said:
Originally posted by Lord You View PostAlternate realities, alternate timelines, etcetera are other universes, by definition. A universe is a space time continium. Two universes are distinct if they contain a different configuration of matter and energy in them. Alternate realities fit this definition. Therefore alternate realities are seperate universes. Alternate timelines of the same universe also end up with the same effect as an alternate reality. Things are different than the "canonical unvierse". So alternate timeline, alternate realities, and alternate universes must be equilivant.
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ok umm... time travel lame, universe lame because from what we know of physics there is only one universe not to be confused with alt reality, altreality lame reason upabove, ascension come on....
I think that because from what I have read about SGUSpoiler:the 9th chev plays a large roll in the show so http://www.gateworld.net/news/2007/0...nth_chev.shtmlI'm also know as "Meredith" on Keepthegateopen.net and SG community.com
"No it only sound ridiculous till you hear yourself say I'm trapped on a spaceship stuck in a time dilation field."
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Originally posted by Col. Newman View PostOther universes are extremely far away and they are what they are called other universes. Alternate realities would occur in our won universe just in a different reality. The other universes would have their own set of infinite alternate realities.
The theory of the extra distances calculation would therefor be true but it would mean one heck of a new distance.
But the name for Stargate Universe could also just mean that the SGU Team can go all over our universe. Which would mean the most logical theory for the 9th Chevron is true. It just goes to other galactic groups.
The idea that it can be used for time travel is well to be nice I will call it farfetched. Making an out going wormhole an incoming wormhole (yeah that one is... well... I have no words to describe it)
The way it works is...
1 Universe. Many alternate realities breaking off from that universes timeline. And then 10 dimensions built onto that universe.
And for the record the Stargate explanation of dimensions is ... lets just say less then accurate to save 2 pages worth of explanation shall we.
But the short of it is that there is only 1 universe which all these other things build on. By deffinition the Universe is everything that exists.
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Originally posted by Esquin View PostUmmmm. Noooooo.
The way it works is...
1 Universe. Many alternate realities breaking off from that universes timeline.
Originally posted by Esquin View PostAnd then 10 dimensions built onto that universe.
And for the record the Stargate explanation of dimensions is ... lets just say less then accurate to save 2 pages worth of explanation shall we.
But the short of it is that there is only 1 universe which all these other things build on. By deffinition the Universe is everything that exists.
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