Robert Carlyle to topline SGU

[jenks]

It's all the same to the rest of the world


However, regarding the topic he sounds like an unlikely fit - I'm betting he is only in the pilot and then killed of violently (unless people have sources to the contrary

According to the MGM article on their Stargate site he's the lead, so I don't see him being killed off early. The things Mallozzi has said make out sound like he'll be around throughout the season too.

[maxbo]

Getting Robert Carlyle for SGU is quite the coup because in addition to being an excellent actor, he also has name recognition outside of sci-fi.

However, as talented as he is, he won't be able to overcome lazy writing so I hope the writers take more care with SGU than they did with SGA, otherwise, Robert Carlyle will join a long list of talented actors who were let down by bad writing.

I hope they're using character bibles and a show bible this time because perhaps that would limit their tendency to write more for their favorites while wallpapering and/or getting rid of the other characters.

[Mooncat]

Begby is taking over the Stargate Franchise ! WOW

that said he is a fantastic actor and will be great in the part !

Id say this is a good move !

[JPS]

Other than Robert Patrick, he's probably the biggest name they'll have ever had on the franchise.

*edit*

Getting Frank Vincent for Vegas is pretty impressive too.

I didn't know who Robert Patrick was until he showed up on Stargate.

I haven't met anyone who hasn't at least heard of MacGyver. We started watching Stargate orginially because we were big MacGyver fans and RDA was in it.

My whole point is TPTB have insulted the demographic that has ... a) made the "franchise" popular for 13 yrs; b) kept them working for 13 yrs; and c) made the Sci Fi channel a household name - by deciding we're too old and they want a younger audience. Then they insult us further by saying we're stupid enough to watch anything with a Stargate label. The Field of Dreams of Sci Fi? I don't think so.

Atlantis has been in a state of constant flux for the entire 5 years it's been on. In 10 years of SG1, how many main and popular recurring characters did they kill? 3 to my knowledge - Fraser, Martouf & Jacob Carter. Aside of Jonas in season 6, Lam in season 7 & Mitchell, Vala & Landry in season 9, how many major cast changes were there? None. None at all for the first 5 years, zero. If I named all the personnel changes Atlantis went through, I'd be here for an hour. Sci Fi didn't promote it well,if at all and here we are ditching a perfectly good show with an interesting, unique premise for what? Stargate 90210? Starfly? Sexgate? Stargate Voyager? It's truly sad it's come to this because being unique is what has made Stargate ... Stargate. A unique premise, great acting and genuine, believeable characters. Who believes SGU will continue this cycle? From what's been coming out of the homefort so far? Not this fan!

[jenks]

My whole point is TPTB have insulted the demographic that has ... a) made the "franchise" popular for 13 yrs; b) kept them working for 13 yrs; and c) made the Sci Fi channel a household name - by deciding we're too old and they want a younger audience.

Older audiences spend less money, that's a fact of life and it's not TPTB's fault, if they (and you) want the franchise to survive then they need to attract younger viewers.

Then they insult us further by saying we're stupid enough to watch anything with a Stargate label. The Field of Dreams of Sci Fi? I don't think so.

This is just people getting offended for the sake of it, if Atlantis hadn't been cancelled and they'd made that 'Stargate fix' comment then no one would have said a word about it.

Atlantis has been in a state of constant flux for the entire 5 years it's been on. In 10 years of SG1, how many main and popular recurring characters did they kill? 3 to my knowledge - Fraser, Martouf & Jacob Carter. Aside of Jonas in season 6, Lam in season 7 & Mitchell, Vala & Landry in season 9, how many major cast changes were there? None. None at all for the first 5 years, zero. If I named all the personnel changes Atlantis went through, I'd be here for an hour.

SG-1 isn't Atlantis, they're two different shows in two different stations.

Sci Fi didn't promote it well,if at all and here we are ditching a perfectly good show with an interesting, unique premise for what? Stargate 90210? Starfly? Sexgate? Stargate Voyager? It's truly sad it's come to this because being unique is what has made Stargate ... Stargate. A unique premise, great acting and genuine, believeable characters.

All this does in highlight either your inability, or refusal to read the articles that have been released about the show. Nothing has been stated to indicate that it'll be anything like that, all that's been said is that it'll have a mainly younger cast and will be darker with a more edgy/younger/mainstream vibe.

Who believes SGU will continue this cycle? From what's been coming out of the homefort so far? Not this fan!

So? Just because you don't believe it that doesn't make it so.

[Briangate78]

This is so strange. Since this announcement. I've seen the movies, "The World is not Enough", Eragon, 28 weeks later, and the full monty. All of them have been on cable. Talk about strange.

The guy can act, and I wonder if he will be keeping that accent.

[Pharaoh Atem]

This is so strange. Since this announcement. I've seen the movies, "The World is not Enough", Eragon, 28 weeks later, and the full monty. All of them have been on cable. Talk about strange.

The guy can act, and I wonder if he will be keeping that accent.

he better or pa will be VERY disappointed

[prion]

This is so strange. Since this announcement. I've seen the movies, "The World is not Enough", Eragon, 28 weeks later, and the full monty. All of them have been on cable. Talk about strange.

The guy can act, and I wonder if he will be keeping that accent.

Not really too strange. He's done a lot of movies and I've seen them on and off for a while now

[prion]

Older audiences spend less money, that's a fact of life and it's not TPTB's fault, if they (and you) want the franchise to survive then they need to attract younger viewers.

It's not necessarily that 'older' audiences spend less money; they do spend heftier amounts with taxes, mortgages, etc. They just spend it on 'real life' stuff, whereas younger folk (especially males) will spend it more on video games, fast food, etc. The TV folk do want to corner the gamer market considering how much money people invest in it, plus it's highly addictive

[jenks]

It's not necessarily that 'older' audiences spend less money; they do spend heftier amounts with taxes, mortgages, etc. They just spend it on 'real life' stuff, whereas younger folk (especially males) will spend it more on video games, fast food, etc. The TV folk do want to corner the gamer market considering how much money people invest in it, plus it's highly addictive

Yeah I meant in terms of what advertisers are looking for, I mean whenever I've watched Stargate on Sci Fi (I have my ways) half of the adverts seem to be for drugs that correct 'erectile dysfunctions', I think that says a lot about the demographics Stargate is pulling in

[prion]

http://www.canada.com/surreynow/news...7-a22bbf464abb

Super news for Office crew
Michael Roberds, Surrey Now
Published: Friday, December 19, 2008

Robert Carlyle (Trainspotting, The Full Monty) is set to arrive in Vancouver to star in the latest Stargate series, Stargate: Universe. Edgier and younger in tone than the two previous series, SGU follows a band of soldiers, scientists and civilians who must fend for themselves as they're forced through a Stargate when their hidden base comes under attack.

While I've never been a fan of these shows, this kind of casting always gives me that extra push to at least check out an episode or two. Carlyle has always given intriguing performances, from his early role on the British series Cracker to the more recent 24 TV movie.

REST AT LINK ABOVE

[prion]

Yeah I meant in terms of what advertisers are looking for, I mean whenever I've watched Stargate on Sci Fi (I have my ways) half of the adverts seem to be for drugs that correct 'erectile dysfunctions', I think that says a lot about the demographics Stargate is pulling in

I swear, Skiffy has more Cialis ads than any other network!

[Briangate78]

I swear, Skiffy has more Cialis ads than any other network!

LOL, it's not just the Stargate shows, lol.

[timtheomniscient]

im glad they got him on board, sgu needs this calibre of actor. i just hope they get new writers in aswell as the old ones. i totally agree with some of the sentiments on here and on the podcast about repetitive writing styles especially in atlantis there is some very good work going on, but it needs freshening up. stargate is one of the greatest television franchises ever and tptb should be looking to push it even further into the hearts and minds of people who arent familiar with the show. theres no room to stagnate and play it safe. so come on guys n gals, lets see some really good work from sgu!

[prion]

im glad they got him on board, sgu needs this calibre of actor. i just hope they get new writers in aswell as the old ones. i totally agree with some of the sentiments on here and on the podcast about repetitive writing styles especially in atlantis there is some very good work going on, but it needs freshening up. stargate is one of the greatest television franchises ever and tptb should be looking to push it even further into the hearts and minds of people who arent familiar with the show. theres no room to stagnate and play it safe. so come on guys n gals, lets see some really good work from sgu!

somehow, I don't think so. the writers from SG1 just migrate from show to show and I don't think there's room. i think they do have a couple good writers on staff but they do need some new blood with new ideas, or else we'll be watching "Sateda" and "Scorched Earth" done again