Megathread - Versus battles

[Stewart5]

Well, assuming they're both at the height of their power, the asgard/ancient would win.
Their superior speed (hyperdrive) would allow them to intercept any smaller groups of federation ships before they can form a fleet large enough to threaten the supperior asgard and ancient sheilds. the APBWs and drones would probably even slice the Sovereign class ships in a matter of seconds.

And phasers would what? Tickle the asgard?
The phasers are easilty a match for the APBW. I'm sure they manage to damage the mad martians pretty well....

[General_Finley]

the Lantean andthe Asgard would absolutely annihalate the ferderation with hyperdrives, drones, and APBW the feration would be taken down by the enormouse powerhouse of the two best known members of the Alliance.

[titan_hq]

U know what, I am going to plunge on in and see what results from my toruble making....


SAS vs Delta Force,

USMC Force Recon(No mentioning the normal Marines, as they are not the same level) vs RMC

Comparing SF is difficult, as they are not fighting conventionally. So I'm gonna leave that one.

Force Recon Vs. RMC however is interesting. If it was RMC vs USMC, I would say RMC without a doubt. Remember the USMC are a conventional branch, with Force Recon doing the same job, and undergoing similarly touch training as British Commandos.
So it really all depends on situation. On home soil, both are better than the other. If you get what I mean.

Of course, as someone who wants nothing more than to be a Royal Marine Commando, my vote obviously lies with them.

[Stewart5]

Comparing SF is difficult, as they are not fighting conventionally. So I'm gonna leave that one.

Force Recon Vs. RMC however is interesting. If it was RMC vs USMC, I would say RMC without a doubt. Remember the USMC are a conventional branch, with Force Recon doing the same job, and undergoing similarly touch training as British Commandos.
So it really all depends on situation. On home soil, both are better than the other. If you get what I mean.

Of course, as someone who wants nothing more than to be a Royal Marine Commando, my vote obviously lies with them.

Your joining RMC?? Dude, u never said anything! Welcome to the club. You joined the reservse or anything yet?
I'm going for my commission

[titan_hq]

Your joining RMC?? Dude, u never said anything! Welcome to the club. You joined the reservse or anything yet?
I'm going for my commission

I'm studying Psychology at the moment, to help get my commission.
Basically, it will help as an officer to understand people, which I do anyway, but an official qualification looks good.
To also put me way over the qualifying line, which I do anyway, but again, I want to look good,
And finally, I want to wait till I am 19/20 before applying. I don't want to be a 19 year old officer at the end of training. D:

[Stewart5]

I'm studying Psychology at the moment, to help get my commission.
Basically, it will help as an officer to understand people, which I do anyway, but an official qualification looks good.
To also put me way over the qualifying line, which I do anyway, but again, I want to look good,
And finally, I want to wait till I am 19/20 before applying. I don't want to be a 19 year old officer at the end of training. D:

Same here. Doing Sports and Active Lifestyles for mine. Doing lots of team work and leadership roles etc etc. I could have gone to basic when I was 17....but I knew I would fail.........

SO, what about Halo Marines and ODST vs our Marines and US marines???

[Dragon_Heart]

Same here. Doing Sports and Active Lifestyles for mine. Doing lots of team work and leadership roles etc etc. I could have gone to basic when I was 17....but I knew I would fail.........

SO, what about Halo Marines and ODST vs our Marines and US marines???

The Halo-verse has better weapons and production, so they win. Not to mention all the different units they have, seen in halo wars.

[coolguyrko]

Im not sure if this will clear things up personally this is one of my first vids and ill be the first to admit im not great at making them but here it goes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjJD...er_profilepage
Hope u like it.

[titan_hq]

The Halo-verse has better weapons and production, so they win. Not to mention all the different units they have, seen in halo wars.

Royal Marines:
L22A1/L85A2,
L110A1,
LAW80,
L107A1,
MP5,
L82.

M4A1/M16A4,
M249.
AT4,
M9,
MP5,
M40A2

vs.

Battle Rifle,
Assault Rifle.
Rocket Launcher,
Magnum/Pistol,
Sub Machine Gun,
Sniper Rifle.

I am sorry, but when you compare with two (technically 3 lists, as we are talking about 3 forces), the RMC and USMC weapons are superior.

Also, the Halo Marines have never shown themselves to be competent soldiers without support from ODST, or Spartans. Both are in short supply.

The Challenger 2 tank has nearly complete protection from 105mm shells, as fired by the Halo Scorpion tank. I don't know much about the M1A2 MBT, but I am sure it has similarly good protection against the Scorpion.

The Hornet, and Longsword have never shown to be any better than their modern counterparts, Apache Longbow, and F-22/ F-35/ Eurofighter respectively.

But even without this "advanced" equipment you claim Halo have, the RMC, and USMC Force Recon, are elite forces, trained to a much higher standard than the Halo Military have ever been. (assumtion, yes. Based upon the fact that their tactics are little more than "lets charge 'em")
They would litorally be torn to peices by a well camoflaged RMC patrol.


I am bored of this now, so I can't be bothered telling you why the rest of the vehicles and equip used by Halo are inferior. But it stands to reason that quality will not just suddenly jump through the roof for a single item. And, if it did.. it would make little difference in the grand scheme of things.

[tomuchtimeonmyhands]

U know what, I am going to plunge on in and see what results from my toruble making....


SAS vs Delta Force,

USMC Force Recon(No mentioning the normal Marines, as they are not the same level) vs RMC

Id Say with out being biast that the SAS are alot better trained than the Us Delta Force, although they both have there merits the SAS are used to doing the job with a lot less back up then Delta Force get.

And id also have to Marine Commandos as they have similar trainning yes but they are also specialists in the field of everything, from amphibious warfare to extreme weather conditions and not to forget they're experts at mountain warfare as well

[Ouroboros]

What is it with all the really ancient thread necromancy lately.

[MathiasE]

Without reading any previous answers in this thread i'd say that it depends on where the battle is fought.

If the battle is anywhere where "our" ancients have control then it'd be very even and it would come down to if the Wraith could have a constant flow of clones coming out like they had in the war against the ancients, without the ability to constantly send new troops the Wraith would eventually lose.
If the fight were in Ori controlled space i don't think it would even be ship vs ship, it would be ships vs ascended beings and there's really not much of a fight there.

Edit: dang, this was one old thread, ohwell, that's my answer anyhow

[Stewart5]

Royal Marines:
L22A1/L85A2,
L110A1,
LAW80,
L107A1,
MP5,
L82.

M4A1/M16A4,
M249.
AT4,
M9,
MP5,
M40A2

vs.

Battle Rifle,
Assault Rifle.
Rocket Launcher,
Magnum/Pistol,
Sub Machine Gun,
Sniper Rifle.

I am sorry, but when you compare with two (technically 3 lists, as we are talking about 3 forces), the RMC and USMC weapons are superior.

Also, the Halo Marines have never shown themselves to be competent soldiers without support from ODST, or Spartans. Both are in short supply.

The Challenger 2 tank has nearly complete protection from 105mm shells, as fired by the Halo Scorpion tank. I don't know much about the M1A2 MBT, but I am sure it has similarly good protection against the Scorpion.

The Hornet, and Longsword have never shown to be any better than their modern counterparts, Apache Longbow, and F-22/ F-35/ Eurofighter respectively.

But even without this "advanced" equipment you claim Halo have, the RMC, and USMC Force Recon, are elite forces, trained to a much higher standard than the Halo Military have ever been. (assumtion, yes. Based upon the fact that their tactics are little more than "lets charge 'em")
They would litorally be torn to peices by a well camoflaged RMC patrol.


I am bored of this now, so I can't be bothered telling you why the rest of the vehicles and equip used by Halo are inferior. But it stands to reason that quality will not just suddenly jump through the roof for a single item. And, if it did.. it would make little difference in the grand scheme of things.

To be fair, the ODST are very well trained. In all the canon, they could match the USMC.
On the whole, tho, their basic Marines wouldn't stand a chance.
Their tanks need infantry riders to protect them from ground pounders cos their so damn slow. Ours aren't.
Their assault rifles are the same calibre as our STANAG weapons. We could use their ammo and vice versa.
Only the battle rifle scares me. We'd just javelin their armour into the mud.
Spartans don't come into it.

[Stewart5]

Here's a good one.
The entire Wraith nation vs.....the gurkha Brigade. Gurkha's, hands down, by default, every times.


What's worse than getting life sucked by a Warith? Being in the path of an angry gurkha!!!!

[titan_hq]

To be fair, the ODST are very well trained. In all the canon, they could match the USMC.
On the whole, tho, their basic Marines wouldn't stand a chance.
Their tanks need infantry riders to protect them from ground pounders cos their so damn slow. Ours aren't.
Their assault rifles are the same calibre as our STANAG weapons. We could use their ammo and vice versa.
Only the battle rifle scares me. We'd just javelin their armour into the mud.
Spartans don't come into it.

Yeah, but there are not enough ODST to stop the entire USMC and RMC.
Remember also, the ODST fill the role of Special Forces, Suicide missions behind enemy lines, sabotage and all that good stuff.

The Battle rifle is good, and with it's high calibre would cause problem for soldiers. But RMC aren't weighed down with full torso covering hard-plate armour. Halo Marines are. That said, maybe that huge armour will protect them against the 5.56 rounds from modern rifles.

Still, I think a war between the two would be very fast paced, and the RMC/USMC is better suited to that sort of warfare than the Halo Marines.