Originally posted by Rise Of The Phoenix
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Thats less than a 2 year gap to design and completely build a new class of warship. Thats a remarkable achievement in itself. When the Deadalus is first introduced, Mkay mentions the basic differences between Deadalus and Prometheus... basically that all the "add on's" on Prometheus are integrated into Deadalus's design. Realistically (since we are talking about the USA in this modern earth, just with a bit of alien tech) it would be near impossible to build a completely new class of warship in 2 years - let alone redesign the ship from scratch.
You d be talking about changing the manufacturing lines, suppliers etc... - and if your using a different material for the hull, this would almost certainly mean new construction techniques, and a host of other supply chains established just to refine the materials - and god knows what else to build a ship of the scale of Deadalus and Prometheus.
Going off this, its fair to say that realistically, as far as we know - the Deadalus isn't too far removed to Prometheus. Its external view is different - but as Mkay says in the siege part 3... Deadalus's biggest difference is its integration of alien tech. This means large components of the ship are likely similar/ the same design to Prometheus - simply to prevent time delay and massive cost increases which would come with redesigning the ship, and especially with redesigning and changing a fundamental feature such as the hull. If in the case of Earth, you need everyship you can get and more - you ll want to keep the construction of the vessels as similar and streamlined as possible.
Deadalus may have a different hull to Prometheus... but there has been nothing said to support it in the show. Its a fair bet given the huge cost and time delay, plus considering we don't even know for sure if the Asgard gave superior/ new hull designs (or whether Prometheus wasn't already kitted out with Asgard hull modifications for that matter... since it did always end up back in dry dock being repaired a lot! i.e. chance to modify the hull) - that the Deadalus and Prometheus's hull are almost certainly made of the same materials, just integrating better construction techniques and designs which have been learnt from the experience of building Prometheus. Logistically changing a fundamental component on a class of ship such as Prometheus would be one huge logistical nightmare which would delay things a lot - which at the end of the day, with Earth pumping out ships as fast as it possibly can.. is something which would almost certainly be avoided.
Consequently.... the comparison between Death Glider fire vs. Prometheus Hull and Wraith Hive Fire vs. Deadalus's hull can't be disproved
I think we ll have to agree to disagree on this to be honest - there is too much inconsistency in the stargate universe to make a reasonable thought out line of thinking i.e. a primitive Geni Nuke vapourises a Wraith Hive, yet a Earth Nuke fails to?
But... one thing i will say - if a race of Humans with earths technology capabilities when the Atlantis expedition was launched (season 8) could survive against the Wraith, and eventually defeat them - then at the time Colonial technology i would have said in pretty much every area was superior to Earths (we only had prometheus... which generally i d class as more of a failure than a success!) .... but if Earth could have eventually beaten the Wraith, and held them off with a handful of personal, and the odd ship... then i reckon the colonials could have done so - PROVIDED they did what Earth did... and fought the Wraith in Pegasus i.e. in a different galaxy to their homeworlds.
Realistically, much as if the Wraith find their way to Earth in full strength (even with the Asgard Legacy) Earth wouldn't stand a chance, i ll probably say that should the Wraith have ever made it to the 12 colonies, the colonial fleet would have been overrun by sheer weight of numbers.... so pretty much like the Ancients themselves were, and what Earth would be if it wasn't for the distance between Milky Way and Pegasus.
If there's one thing the Wraith have going for them - its not so much the technological capabilities of their ships, but the massive availability of medium (not necessarily high tech) technological ships - which in enough numbers can lay waste to even the most advanced warship.
Before the Wraith civil war... they were probably the single powerfullest race ever on SGuniverse.. and potentially still are. lol
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