Prometheus Vs. Enterprise

[Rise Of The Phoenix]

yes but this is about the NX-01 against the X-303. The first starfleet vessle and the first Tau'ri vessle.

Other people were posting about the size comparison thing I was just adding my 2 pence.

[Col. Shadow Quinn]

im not to shure, the enterprise is pretty flimsy, but its hardly a fair fight, the enterprise-e is 750 meters long the prommie is 175

Ent-E
-Length: 680 meters

Prometheus
-Length: 375 meters

[Stewart5]

im not to shure, the enterprise is pretty flimsy, but its hardly a fair fight, the enterprise-e is 750 meters long the prommie is 175

Flimsy. Did you see Nemisis?? That's why u evacuate the forward sections.

[Buba uognarf]

That would depend on Prommies beaming range-which should be a lot better than any Trek range (40,000KM)

Why should it be better? Asgard beams have never been shown to operate beyond orbital ranges.

[Stewart5]

Why should it be better? Asgard beams have never been shown to operate beyond orbital ranges.

Once again people are making unfounded assumptions, that's all.

[General_Finley]

Other people were posting about the size comparison thing I was just adding my 2 pence.

sorry if i sounded rude because if i did i didn't meen it at all.

if the Prometheus did use its beaming tech it would undoutedly destroy the NX-01 but the cost might be to great, because the blast would probably take out its shields and thw EMP would likly take out most of its systems.

[jnadreth]

Well to be honest.... Transporters developed by a race that has been around for 100,000 years should be easily more advanced than a Race that possesed the technology for 220 years (Not that the Asgard had beaming for 100,000 years but that they would have had the tech certainly for a much longer period than 200 years). The range is an issue as we do not know the maximum range of the Asgard Beaming but we have seen that very little stops the Asgard transporter from working (Generally just Shields and Dampening/Jamming fields) while trek transporters break down an fail miserably at the slightest chance they would be needed. Plus Asgard beamers can beam larger things like skyscrapers and ships-an ability that Trek has never demonstrated

[IcyNeko]

Prometheus and the NX Enterprise would be an even match. Though... NX Enterprise's projectile weapons are based on ICBM technologies (they're still firing missiles rather than photon torpedoes... those came later). The phase cannons aren't all that powerful unless they were overloaded, in which case they'd be deadly.

The Prometheus's railguns aren't particularly effective. However, the NX Enterprise uses polarized hull plating rather than a defensive energy shield. That would make the Enterprise take quite a pounding.... as it is not particularly effective against non-energy weapons.

The NX would most likely win, but not by much. They'd take quite a beating from the naquadah-enhanced missiles from the Prometheus. The Prometheus would take a few hits from the phase cannon, but after that... all bets are off.

This is assuming there's no zero point energy involved anywhere...

[Itzan]

I'm pretty sure a few hundred Gigatones of Nukes will vaporise the Enterprise. A single Gatebuster can waste a Hive, and I doubt the Enterprise's hull is anywhere near a Hive ship in terms of armour.

[jnadreth]

I bet a Gatebuster would fry an entire Wraith fleet if they were close together-A Mark 9 would have been perfect against the 12 Hives and Cruisers Daedy had to face at the start of season 2.

[Buba uognarf]

Nukes don't work well in space and the Prometheus doesn't carry gatebusters as standard.

[General_Finley]

Nukes don't work well in space and the Prometheus doesn't carry gatebusters as standard.

if that is true then NASAs main defense against astriod impact is a bust an we are all going to die because eventually an astroid will come our way. ( there plan is to detonate a nuke a couple of football fields away from the astroid, the shock wave would change its tragectory and the heat emited would burn off some of the potential impactors mass) the gravity tracktor satilite is still in the developmental stages and would only work on ones that are really far away.

[jnadreth]

Spread the word-we are all doomed
Just look at how much damage Daedy did to that hive when its salvo of missiles got through in No Mans Land???

[morrismike]

I'm pretty sure a few hundred Gigatones of Nukes will vaporise the Enterprise. A single Gatebuster can waste a Hive, and I doubt the Enterprise's hull is anywhere near a Hive ship in terms of armour.

gatebusters have never been used on a hive - sub megaton tactical nukes only.

[Buba uognarf]

gatebusters have never been used on a hive - sub megaton tactical nukes only.

So even though all the times we've seen or heard about nukes being used against capital ships they were naq enhanced and gigaton level, this was an exception?

You don't know that it was sub megaton and the likely hood is that it wasn't and was indeed orders of magnitude higher.

Well to be honest.... Transporters developed by a race that has been around for 100,000 years should be easily more advanced than a Race that possesed the technology for 220 years (Not that the Asgard had beaming for 100,000 years but that they would have had the tech certainly for a much longer period than 200 years). The range is an issue as we do not know the maximum range of the Asgard Beaming but we have seen that very little stops the Asgard transporter from working (Generally just Shields and Dampening/Jamming fields) while trek transporters break down an fail miserably at the slightest chance they would be needed. Plus Asgard beamers can beam larger things like skyscrapers and ships-an ability that Trek has never demonstrated

Just because the Asgard are 100,000 years old as a civilisation doesn't mean they're 100,000 years more advanced than us, like wise just because Star Trek is set in the 24th century doesn't mean their technology is only 300 years more advanced than our own. In Star Trek Earth has allies with thousands of years of space travel helping them. Your logic is flawed.

Just to give you an example 29th century Federation tech is far far beyond the Asgards. They can beam through time and across galaxies as well as scan it. Thats 800 years into the future and they've far surpassed the Asgard in Transport and sensors technology, possibly more area's.

If the Goa'uld are 500 years a head of us the Asgard are unlikely to be more than 1500 years a head IMO.

While beaming a Sky scraper is impressive who's to say that Star Trek transporters couldn't do the same? This also has no relevence when comparing range, Asgard transporters have never shown more than orbital ranges. Saying the Asgard are older means nothing nor does the size of what they can beam. If you want to compare which is better then fine talk about these things but its irrelevent when discussing range.

if that is true then NASAs main defense against astriod impact is a bust an we are all going to die because eventually an astroid will come our way. ( there plan is to detonate a nuke a couple of football fields away from the astroid, the shock wave would change its tragectory and the heat emited would burn off some of the potential impactors mass) the gravity tracktor satilite is still in the developmental stages and would only work on ones that are really far away.

There is no shockwave is space. There's nothing space to create the shockwave.