Multiple Gate Network Theory? Prove or disprove.

[EternalAlteran]

Other colors could be just a makeover, just like the Ori rings, same tech, different appearance. And the Ancient did probably isolate all gates of the pegasus (except Atlantis) on purpose. Also it would have required a lot of massive powersources to make the gates intergalactic

[thekillman]

wouldnt it be a trillion times easier just to use a secondary grid like the one in the quest, or like baal wanted to make?

[Aer'ki]

wouldnt it be a trillion times easier just to use a secondary grid like the one in the quest, or like baal wanted to make?

The MGN theory says exactly that. Inside the MW there is a red, green, orange, yellow, violet, and blue networks. They are not in separate galaxies, they all exist alongside each other...some would even exist on the same planet.

A massive ancient civilization on a single world would have both a red gate and an orange gate. Different wormhole frequencies would allow both to be active and not interfere with each other.

A network jump wouldn't require the same power as an intergalactic jump, since you're not going outside the galaxy. The 9th chevron would be dialed 8th in this case.

You would only dial all 9 chevrons if you were making a network jump and an intergalactic connection at the same time.

Multiple Gate Networks are designed to be able to be used on the same few mega worlds, and then on individual worlds as well.

Example: Atlantis on earth would have had two gates. A red gate(which they obviously got rid of or packed away, since the gateroom holds a pegasus blue gate now. Maybe it was the gate they left in Antarctica.) and an orange cargo gate, possibly recessed below one of the landing platforms. It would rise up and allow transport trains(puddle jumper-like) to fly through and corral on the landing pads.

This gate could still be there, left over from Atlantis's time in the MW.

Since the ancients didn't rebuild their entire civilization in pegasus, only two networks would be present. The common gates and the medium-supergates, both of which would be colored blue since the whole pegasus operation was considered an experiment and not part of the intergalactic gate network which included MW, IDA, and who knows how many other galaxies. Plenty of symbols on the gate to go around.

The green gate network would work like Baal's idea or Morgan's(possibly how she thought of it). But instead of using red gates they used gates with a different frequency which would completely isolate the gate networks beyond mere coding differences(codes which could potentially be hacked).

Non-ancients might not have even been aware of other networks beyond the red gates...this would have been a very potent security feature. You don't try to break into something that you don't know exists.

And again, the lack of ancient infrastructure in the MW says loads, especially since we know the goa'uld didn't end up with it. Pegasus lack of infrastructure could be because they didn't build as much in the first place, and also that they dismantled most of it so the wraith wouldn't get it. All part of their plan to abandon Pegasus.

For all we know, there could be an underwater or underground ancient facility on Earth with a green gate in it...or maybe even on the moon, who knows.

[redrama9]

good idea if the gate network was real but for a show no good. This is because it wouldn't change the show in the slightest. What can the writers do with your ninth chevon theory that will change the show?

[stargater1990]

Multiple Gate Network Theory:

Ninth chevron jumps between gate networks, no not galaxies, networks.

Stargates have red crystals(sometimes the glow looks orange, but I'm pretty sure it's red). These red gates(I'll explain pegasus later) are free access gates, open to anyone to use and they number approximately 78% of all gates in the ancient's network(ori not included because the ancients didn't build them).

However, ever wonder how you could have trade between planets and not bog up the gate? Need to dial home under fire...whoops, crates of potatoes going through, have to wait.

Answer is Ancients build several gate networks on different 'frequencies'. Wormholes on one frequency wouldn't interfere with others. You could have two wormholes to earth simultaneously on different networks because they are constructed differently.

Orange gates...cargo transfer. Puddle jumper-like trains would carry cargo through these gates, which would be located on large, populated worlds in addition to the red gates(color is based on the crystals, by the way).

Green gates would lead to secure facilities...shipyards, safehouses, armories, training facilities, etc...basically all the good stuff you don't want the average villager to stumble onto.

Yellow gates...VIP transit system between ultra-high security locations. Only a handful of these gates. Very exclusive. Mind you, the ancients only gave the asgard a red gate.

Violet gates...these are larger than normal, but not quite supergate size. They are the reason why ancient warships don't need intergalactic hyperdrives. 100 or so strategically placed in the void between stars within a galaxy provides transit for ancient ships between various sectors of the galaxy. Since they are not near stars or planets, no one would know where they were unless they knew where to look, which is why the Goa'uld never found them. Also explains why ancient ships were long and narrow.

Blue gates(non pegasus)...these were dangerous locations, maybe a research outpost near a black hole or a planet dangerously close to a star. Locations with value, but definitely not safe. Step through one of these and you die without precautions. Experimental research would also be on this network.

All of these networks were established in MW and the rest of the ancients' domain, but not Pegasus. Pegasus gate network was established after the plague killed the ancients. The ones who traveled to Pegasus were infected and seeded the new galaxy with life+advanced one set of humans as far as they could(maybe our level, a little more or a little less) but they couldn't push their development to their level.

These sub-ancients inhabited decontaminated parts of Atlantis while the true, infected ancients coexisted in otherparts. They taught these 'new ancients' and gave them the city piece by piece as the plague knocked the ancients off one by one. Some ascended, which the neoancients observed and saught to copy throughout their existence(which lead to their pacifistic policies and indifference to other matters). Once the last of the ancients died the remainder of the city was sterilised and the neoancients carried on the work of their predecessors.

Pegasus gate network was deemed an 'experiment' hence the blue color, but was not part of the blue network. It was deliberately isolated to not allow contact with the plague in other galaxies. The pegasus galaxy(which can only be left through Atlantis's gate crystal) was kept isolated later on as a precaution against the wraith expanding beyond the galaxy. So pegasus gates have blue crystals because the humans in the galaxy were an 'experiment' after the plague, but it's not part of the blue network.

The 9th chevron is dialed last, in case of a 7 symbol address in galaxy it would technically be 8th, and an access code is prompted by flashing chevrons on DHD. Once the proper response is inserted the gate activates and JUMPS networks. Example...red gate connects to green gate with ninth chevron added after address. Intergalactic address (8 symbols) + gate jump = 9th chevron.

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I have yet to find any reference in any episode that can disprove the MGN theory...and many that hint at it, Midway especially. Feel free to chime in. I've vetted this idea thoroughly but I could always have missed something.

Note: Colors and number of networks are purely speculative save for Red and Blue(which we've seen)

i dont even think the ori even have stargates.

[thekillman]

The MGN theory says exactly that. Inside the MW there is a red, green, orange, yellow, violet, and blue networks. They are not in separate galaxies, they all exist alongside each other...some would even exist on the same planet.

A massive ancient civilization on a single world would have both a red gate and an orange gate. Different wormhole frequencies would allow both to be active and not interfere with each other.

A network jump wouldn't require the same power as an intergalactic jump, since you're not going outside the galaxy. The 9th chevron would be dialed 8th in this case.

You would only dial all 9 chevrons if you were making a network jump and an intergalactic connection at the same time.

Multiple Gate Networks are designed to be able to be used on the same few mega worlds, and then on individual worlds as well.

Example: Atlantis on earth would have had two gates. A red gate(which they obviously got rid of or packed away, since the gateroom holds a pegasus blue gate now. Maybe it was the gate they left in Antarctica.) and an orange cargo gate, possibly recessed below one of the landing platforms. It would rise up and allow transport trains(puddle jumper-like) to fly through and corral on the landing pads.

This gate could still be there, left over from Atlantis's time in the MW.

Since the ancients didn't rebuild their entire civilization in pegasus, only two networks would be present. The common gates and the medium-supergates, both of which would be colored blue since the whole pegasus operation was considered an experiment and not part of the intergalactic gate network which included MW, IDA, and who knows how many other galaxies. Plenty of symbols on the gate to go around.

The green gate network would work like Baal's idea or Morgan's(possibly how she thought of it). But instead of using red gates they used gates with a different frequency which would completely isolate the gate networks beyond mere coding differences(codes which could potentially be hacked).

Non-ancients might not have even been aware of other networks beyond the red gates...this would have been a very potent security feature. You don't try to break into something that you don't know exists.

And again, the lack of ancient infrastructure in the MW says loads, especially since we know the goa'uld didn't end up with it. Pegasus lack of infrastructure could be because they didn't build as much in the first place, and also that they dismantled most of it so the wraith wouldn't get it. All part of their plan to abandon Pegasus.

For all we know, there could be an underwater or underground ancient facility on Earth with a green gate in it...or maybe even on the moon, who knows.

color gates are stupid. what i meant is, there are a few specialized gate systems, but they're just seperated. no superstargate system. they had good, fast ships for that. aurora's werent made for speed. wraith, you know

[Aer'ki]

good idea if the gate network was real but for a show no good. This is because it wouldn't change the show in the slightest. What can the writers do with your ninth chevon theory that will change the show?

It means all the cool ancient stuff is still out there to find. The Goa'uld scavenged the worlds in the Red gate network and found some ancient tech, but not the big stuff.

What can change stargate is if you combine the head sucker idea with the MGN and you have a real life ancient, who knows the ins and the outs of the network, carrying out a multi-million year master plan of the ancients in order to save the ascended ones from their 'imprisonment'. All the while dragging an SG team along with this 'new' ancient.

The ancients are the key to the stargate series. Anything and everything about them is TV candy. MGN gives you the keys to the candy store, if you get my drift.

[Aer'ki]

i dont even think the ori even have stargates.

Maybe true, but the humans in the Ori galaxy seem to be knowledgeable about different planets, so they travel between them somehow, and the big motherships weren't created before Daniel and Vala showed up.

We know they can make gates, at the least.

Thekillman...it makes no sense to build a slow ship on purpose when you have a faster drive. A supergate system(probably smaller in diameter than Ori supergates) is the only logical reason aurora-class ships would be slower.

I mean, why would ancients have ships slower than the Asgard? That's all wrong.

[lord groovy]

It means all the cool ancient stuff is still out there to find. The Goa'uld scavenged the worlds in the Red gate network and found some ancient tech, but not the big stuff.

What can change stargate is if you combine the head sucker idea with the MGN and you have a real life ancient, who knows the ins and the outs of the network, carrying out a multi-million year master plan of the ancients in order to save the ascended ones from their 'imprisonment'. All the while dragging an SG team along with this 'new' ancient.

The ancients are the key to the stargate series. Anything and everything about them is TV candy. MGN gives you the keys to the candy store, if you get my drift.

a 10 000 years old candy store? I wonder what they could have.....

But I find your idea interesting. Personally I would have implemented it if I made a Stargate network. Unfortunately SG1 is over so it will stay a theory. Sorry dude. (try a fanfic anyway. I would love to read it)

[Starsaber]

The ancients are the key to the stargate series. Anything and everything about them is TV candy. MGN gives you the keys to the candy store, if you get my drift.

Yes, but too much candy is bad for you.

Overusing the Ancients means that when they show up in the future, it won't be as big of a deal.

[Aer'ki]

Yes, but too much candy is bad for you.

Overusing the Ancients means that when they show up in the future, it won't be as big of a deal.

The future is now, my friend. Realizing the full gate network might even lead us to them. SGU should be ancient heavy. Head sucker is the key to it all!

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Aurora class ships were built to fight the Wraith. They don't need intergalactic hyperdrives. Imagine what would happen if the Wraith managed to capture one!

And where are you getting the rest of this information about different gate networks? The Pegasus gates can't dial Earth because of the power needed to do so. They're just too far away. The chevron crystals are a different colour just because they can be.

[stargater1990]

Maybe true, but the humans in the Ori galaxy seem to be knowledgeable about different planets, so they travel between them somehow, and the big motherships weren't created before Daniel and Vala showed up.

We know they can make gates, at the least.

Thekillman...it makes no sense to build a slow ship on purpose when you have a faster drive. A supergate system(probably smaller in diameter than Ori supergates) is the only logical reason aurora-class ships would be slower.

I mean, why would ancients have ships slower than the Asgard? That's all wrong.

actually the auroras do have slower hyperdrives than the asgard because they have interstellar hyperdrives not the intergalactic ones. yes they can be transformed into the other model but it takes a while hence the episode aurora. thats what they were trying to do to get to atlantis very fast.

[thekillman]

Thekillman...it makes no sense to build a slow ship on purpose when you have a faster drive. A supergate system(probably smaller in diameter than Ori supergates) is the only logical reason aurora-class ships would be slower.

I mean, why would ancients have ships slower than the Asgard? That's all wrong.

first: its all wrong to have superfast hyperdrives and getting captured by wraith. they captured 3 aurora's. had the ancients been as stupid as portrayed, noone would be living right now, and it would be Stargate: WG1 [wraith group]. the wraith wouldve spread, we dead, ancients dead, all hope lost, etc. they made it however, that, when nessecary, the ancients could mod it back in a few hours to an intergalactic one. so thats what happened to orion. or orion was intended to be a ferry to earth, but got damaged, so the people left by gate instead.


second: asgard are superior to ancients in weapons, hyperdrives[as far as known], and transportation. so its not "all wrong", and rather fits in the picture