if you drop an activated stargate into an ocean....

[Einherjar]

what crap is that? you have MORE than enough pressure to get it through. and besides, water would "fall" to the earth via gravity. seeing as random moving water molecules could go through, there could be suction. and a gate going down would destroy water cause its at the back of the gate, and enters it due to the gate sinking. therefore creating downward suction, and the water would go through the EH

depends on whether you drop in face down or back down. Face down yes the water would go through back down it wouldn't. There would be no suction.

Example one:

The eh is facing down. yes this way water would flow into the gate due to the external movement force.

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Example two:

The eh is facing up. no movement into the gate.

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Even with the elimination of water behind the gate it would not cause a suction force into the gate as the water would simply be displaced across the gates front.

[thekillman]

then toss it down face down

if you drop an activated stargate into an ocean....

then water would pour through.

[Lord batchi ball]

Like I stated earlyier the water wouldn't go through the gate but I bet the fish would, we can attack them with giant squids and tuna.

[wkw427]

No. But if you put a small pump around the gate...

[Einherjar]

then toss it down face down




then water would pour through.

Yeah i agree with that... toss it face down and the water would flow through until it is blocked by the sea bed.

[thekillman]

if you drop an activated stargate into an ocean....

so the gate has speed, water goes in, then creates suction, and the water blasts throught at the POD, and the ocean at the POO dries up

[Einherjar]

so the gate has speed, water goes in, then creates suction, and the water blasts throught at the POD, and the ocean at the POO dries up

only works if the gate is face down, constantly moving and does not get blocked by the sea bed.

[Enzo Aquarius]

Here's something else to contemplate:

If you put a Stargate at the bottom of the ocean, dial out, you get the event horizon which should 'disintigrate' the water that it encompasses. If the Stargate is deep in the ocean, this lack of water should cause water to rush in and could push in objects in the area as well (rocks, sealife, etc.). Could this rush force some water through the gate, including said objects?

Even if it just brings through the water replacing the displacement, it would be an overall annoyance and the force could injure somebody near the gate on the other side.

[Einherjar]

Here's something else to contemplate:

If you put a Stargate at the bottom of the ocean, dial out, you get the event horizon which should 'disintigrate' the water that it encompasses. If the Stargate is deep in the ocean, this lack of water should cause water to rush in and could push in objects in the area as well (rocks, sealife, etc.). Could this rush force some water through the gate, including said objects?

Yes only for a few seconds until the gap is filled and pressure becomes table round the gate.

[thekillman]

ofcourse it will. and i still dont get the "force equally aplied" thing. a jumper does almost the same. it doesnt make sense.

[Enzo Aquarius]

One can think of it like this: Why would the Ancients make a technology that, if you dialed to a Stargate with just air, yet you're in water, you could effectively wreak the planet on the other side?

My theory is that the Stargate has sensors that 'detects' what is around it. For example, if you are on a planet with a high amount of methane in the atmosphere, the Stargate 'detects' this as comprising the area and will not send the air through the gate. This prevents a mass exodus of atmosphere (especially if dialing to a spacegate), and compromising the safety of those on the other side of the gate. If you send a Jumper through the gate, it is not considered part of the normal composition of the area around the gate, so it's sent through. The same aspect goes with water, sand, soil, etc. It wouldn't be smart of the Ancients to make a technology that, if you dial from a water planet to another planet, you effectively flood the other planet for 38 minutes.

[Einherjar]

ofcourse it will. and i still dont get the "force equally aplied" thing. a jumper does almost the same. it doesnt make sense.

ok when a ship sinks it causes a "hole" in the water around it which is quickly filled. in the case of the stargate the kawoosh would displace the water (in this case vaporising it) causing a splash back. This splash back will cause the immediate water to be thrust into the gate until the "hole" is filled.

This is when we get the pressure equilibrium when the water surrounds the gate equally. This is also the point where no more water will pass through the gate.

[supersoldier34]

Also, the transmitting stargate does not allow the air molecules of the local atmosphere to pass through. The show explains that the stargate differentiates between objects attempting to pass through the event horizon and things that would naturally exert pressure, such as when a gate is surrounded by a fluid.[35]

from wikipedia

[wkw427]

Get a gate and put it on a boat and go around the world, redialing as needed..

Or put the supergate underwater on a waterworld and dial it a few dozon times. No more water. Kawoosh takes it away!

[Tobin Dax]

Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargat...r_transmission
Also, the transmitting stargate does not allow the air molecules of the local atmosphere to pass through. The show explains that the stargate differentiates between objects attempting to pass through the event horizon and things that would naturally exert pressure, such as when a gate is surrounded by a fluid.[35]

from wikipedia

Firstly: Wikipedia really isn't a good source of information, despite the fact this piece of info is probably right.

Secondly: I really think that the Alterans/Ancients would have throught this through. Surely the idea of space gates in pegasus proves it? Someone mentioned the Kawoosh displacing liquid (water in this case) and when this space was filled the resulting force from the water pressure pushes SOME water through?

I ask you THIS. Air is like water, but less dense. Air is 'vaporised' by the Kawoosh, but, when dialing a space gate, the air doesn't go rushing out into nothingness before the pressure is re-established, so why would water?

I really don't think water can pass through like that, although it probably could be destroyed by the kawoosh.