IDA galaxy question

[NATIK]

It seems that Firefox addon isnt compatible with FF 2.0.

Otherwise nice link very interesting.

[.jolinar.]

It takes four days for a zpm powered Daedalus to get to Atlantis (Pegasus Galaxy) from earth (Milky Way Galaxy).
It takes less than a day for an asgard ship with the same hyperdrive to get from Orilla to Earth.

A BC-304 with a zpm powering its hyperdrive to 100% is equivilant to a Beliskner class with its hyperdrive engine powered to 100% by Ion-Generators

[NATIK]

A BC-304 with a zpm powering its hyperdrive to 100% is equivilant to a Beliskner class with its hyperdrive engine powered to 100% by Ion-Generators

Pure speculation, we have no proof that this is true and we know different hyperdrives have different efficiency, if you doubt this then consider the following:

O'niell modifed a Goa'uld cargo ship to go faster without adding more power to the drive, he merely increased its efficiency.

The Aurora were modifying their drives to go faster, again not their power source but their drives.

The Asgaard drives on the 304 class ships are almost certainly not as good or efficient as the Asgaard Mothership drives used on the Beliskner, O'niell and Daniel Jackson class ships therefore you cannot compare the speeds between the two in calculating interstellar distances.


Offtopic: The Asgaard vessels dont have Ion generators they use Neutrino generators. There has never been mentioned Ion generators in the series at any time. The Space race people used Ion Drives and the Tollan had Ion Cannons but no generators.

[Prior_of_the_Ori]

The Asgard actually have Neutrino Ion Generators mentioned in the first Replicator episode.

[Hypochondriac]

If the debate is about which galaxy is closer, thats easily solved. Oniel was able to dial into the Ida galaxy when he had anctient knowledge downloaded into his head, but it took a ZPM to dial Atlantis

[NATIK]

If the debate is about which galaxy is closer, thats easily solved. Oniel was able to dial into the Ida galaxy when he had anctient knowledge downloaded into his head, but it took a ZPM to dial Atlantis

He still had to fashion a device giving the powergrid a boost to do that though so it dosnt tell us much about distances though I will agree with you Ida is probably around the same distance or closer then Pegasus.

The dialing to Pegasus only need a ZPM because it requires more then the SGC local generators can produce, dialing to and from the Pegasus galaxy has been shown to be no problem on a ZPM, the only reason the first one got depleted it because it was almost depleted already. I am pointing this out because that mean the power requirements are equally uncertain for both, there is no way to know precisly how much power the power booster added and there is no way to know precisly how power is drained from the ZPM when used.
This means we cant base the distance on that assumption either.

The Asgard actually have Neutrino Ion Generators mentioned in the first Replicator episode.

Checked and you are right but the rest is still fact. We have no indication that the Asgaard started out by giving us the best Hyperdrive design they had.

[Jimbo-DR]

If the debate is about which galaxy is closer, thats easily solved. Oniel was able to dial into the Ida galaxy when he had anctient knowledge downloaded into his head, but it took a ZPM to dial Atlantis

ANDDD if you rewatch that episode, you'll notice O'neill has to go through hell creating a power source out of a staff weapons liquid naquada to add a LOT of extra power to the gate in order to dial the Ida galaxy. In fact that was a major theme of that episode, and they even revisited it in Point of View in season 3.

[MechaThor]

I am sure Ida is just the Asgard name for their galaxy while we have givern it something else. Just like we call ares the MILKY wAY i am sure the asgard call it something else.
Ida is most liky one of the real galaxies in are cluster.

[.jolinar.]

The Asgard actually have Neutrino Ion Generators mentioned in the first Replicator episode.

Which is what I was talking about. I mean that in the sense that that the old Beliskner class hyperdrive is equivilant to that in the BC-304's. As the ZPM can power the Hyperdrive to 100% in the BC-304's, and the Neutrino Ion Generators can power the Beliskner Hyperdrive to 100%, thereticly they should be aproximately the same speed.

[NATIK]

Which is what I was talking about. I mean that in the sense that that the old Beliskner class hyperdrive is equivilant to that in the BC-304's. As the ZPM can power the Hyperdrive to 100% in the BC-304's, and the Neutrino Ion Generators can power the Beliskner Hyperdrive to 100%, thereticly they should be aproximately the same speed.

No, simply no. Just because they are presumably both running at 100% of their own effictive capacity they do not have to be equal, the Asgaard Beliskner drive could still be many times faster due to efficiency, as I said earlier this is not something to be disputed, it has been shown to be fact on the show that the powersource is NOT the determining factor in the speed of a hyperdrive it is merely needed to reach that speed.

There is still no basis for comparing the drives like that.

[Jimbo-DR]

All we know is that there have been multiple times where the Asgard just show up out of nowhere seemingly very quickly. They talk about how they monitor all hyperspace activity within the vicinity of Earth, and blah blah. And they can go to and from whereever they normally are at ridiculously fast rates of speed.

[jds1982]

All we know is that there have been multiple times where the Asgard just show up out of nowhere seemingly very quickly. They talk about how they monitor all hyperspace activity within the vicinity of Earth, and blah blah. And they can go to and from whereever they normally are at ridiculously fast rates of speed.

Maybe the Asgard have a nice supergate their not telling us about.

[ACharmedAsgard]

Knowing that the Tollans can make a stargate.....can the Asgard?

[Jimbo-DR]

The tollans made a stargate presumably with the help of the Nox, but its possible that they did it on their own. They were a very advanced race.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Asgard could create a Stargate AND a supergate if they wanted to. They were, after all, allied to the Ancients and have been using the things for thousands upon thousands of years.

[rlr149]

this is all very good, but wtf is IDA