Ancient VS Asgard Tech (Unending Spoilers)

[Tovny]

They ringed a nuke onto an Ori ship... it was disabled before detonation tough.

Yeah thats because the shields were doing something (don't know ho to spell it) when the Ori fired their main gun.

[JanusAncient]

I think the only reason that those Asgard weapons were able to penetrate the Ori shields is because they were basically the same technology. And, reacted the same way as the Ori beam with it struck the shield, but drones aren't.

[Tovny]

I think the only reason that those Asgard weapons were able to penetrate the Ori shields is because they were basically the same technology. And, reacted the same way as the Ori beam with it struck the shield, but drones aren't.

So?

[Atlantean Engineer]

All right I have a question. Now I haven't seen the episode so I may do this wrong but. Why can we use Asgard tech so easily if we can barly use any of the Ancinets tech from Atlantis?

Your thoughts

Maybe its because the Asgard tailored the stuff for us? They installed their tech on our ship AND they have been studying humans on Earth for many years (I think this was mentioned in one of the first eps with the Asgard). This implies that they know our systems.

This probably makes it alot easier for the Asgard to transfer their tech to us, than it is for us to take Ancient tech which we don't understand and integrate it with our own tech.

[JanusAncient]

If you can't figure that out I won't explain.

[Asgaror]

That was made with accended knowledge since didnt merlin make it after he deaccended ?


So therefore doesnt count

Why wouldn't it count? Daniel said that being ascended doesn't make you all-knowing! Perhaps Merlin already had that knowledge before he ascended!

Oh and by the way... if the ancients were in great part responsible for the development of our species, is Jesus , in the stargate universe, only an ancient who ascended?

[HAL]

[QUOTE=Asgaror;8492156]Why wouldn't it count? Daniel said that being ascended doesn't make you all-knowing! Perhaps Merlin already had that knowledge before he ascended!

No but accension does give you a greater understanding of the universe {Makes you alot smarter}


so he more than likely invented them with hes accended inteligence

[thekillman]

every piece of tech in the quest to the sangraal, made by merlin/morgan, is NOT ancient tech. it uses ancient-based interfaces, and has an ancient look, cause its a former ancient who made it. we do not know to what extent the stuff was made from ancient and ascended knowledge. the matter tech couldve been ring-inspired, but we dont know, as he was a former ascended, and thus couldve chosen extra ascended knowledge beside his ancient knowledge.

ancient tech is made to do one thing and one thing only. in the hands of a tauri, it can be modified and converted to do other things [ as evidenced by jumpers]. asgard tech is multipurpose from the beginning, and needs only additional programing, if it needs anything extra at all. wheras the ancients had alot of knowledge, the asgard researched what they needed, like beaming tech. ancient beaming tech never came further as plateau based, as they were physically strong enough to walk long distances etc, while asgard were fragile.
as the asgard research humanity, they developed better hyperdrives for faster travel. also, ancient tech is power-needing from the beginning, while asgard tech still functions on lower power.
ancients:
power needs to be at a certain level to funtion normally and doesnt function below that level. boosting is possible.

asgard:
power needs to be at a level to function, even far below normal function, and powerincrease means better results, + allows boosting

[s09119]

Beaming and matter replication are two technologies that the Asgard developed and neither the Ori or Ancients have amongst the many other technologies that far exceed that of the Asgard.

Not true. We saw Ancient beaming technology in "Avalon, Part 2" and "The Quest, Part 2." And we saw Ancient matter replication technology in "The Quest, Part 2," as well.

[thekillman]

STOP THAT. it was ascended tech!

[s09119]

STOP THAT. it was ascended tech!

Since ascension does not make one all-knowing, you can't prove that. The very fact transport booths in Atlantis seem to use a beaming-like system to transport implies the Ancients had the know-how anyway.

[thekillman]

but he was ascended. sorry, but we do not know the extent of ascended and ancient knowledge used in these devices. so it is ascended tech.

atlantis uses platform based transport. a ring transporter without rings, placed in an elevator, removing the need to have rings, and removing the hazards

[Hotpoint]

atlantis uses platform based transport. a ring transporter without rings, placed in an elevator, removing the need to have rings, and removing the hazards

To me the Atlantis transports seem closer to the Aschen equivalent than Asgard beams, possibly a transitional technology from the rings to entirely platform-less teleportation?

[thekillman]

or like i said, a ring platform without rings

[2ndgenerationalteran]

i think it should be noted that the tech the ancients possessed allowed them to survive for millions of years yet the tech that the asgard possessed didnt prevent their demise after 50,000 years or so.