Gate Addresses

[_Owen_]

Ok, what we are doing here is stupid, we are arguing, oppinions, you can't argue an oppinion, unless scientific facts back up the point that you are arguing. Yes, I know that it is one possibility that the stargate atracts the wormhole, I also know that once the wormhole is locked it won't be released unless there is an overwhelimng energy discharge to the gate.

We should have realised this before, I just realised it today, how stupid this argument is. We are arguing oppinions on how something works in a fictional tv show, with only limited facts. Your I idea is a possibility, and my idea is also a possibility, but untill they say something in the show that porves one theory and disproves another, or possibly disproves both, we will not know.

At the begining of this argument your argument was that the gate COULDN'T work the way I said it could, correct me if I am wrong, However both are possibilities, both are theoretically possible. Normally I would not rely on simply, what they said in the show, as evidence, but this situation is diffrent, we can ONLY rely on what they say on the show. Your argument does have scientific points backing it up but there are also many things you said that can only be proven by the show. Sorry if I am making this more complicated than it needs to be, but we were both wrong, not about our theories, our theories are both plausible, we were both wrong about arguing that the others' is not possible, because they are, both, possible. I belive that this argument is over now because of what we were arguing, oppinions, which can't be argued.

For anyone who didn't want to read the page of rambling back and forth between me and Seastallion, unless Seastalion believes otherwise, in which case we will continue the argument, both theories are plausible and only the show can say which one is used in the show, allthough this will still leave the other theory possible, just not in the show.

Is this allright with you Seastallion?

Owen Macri

[Seastallion]

LOL Yeah, I'm ok with it. It doesn't really matter that much, as long as people believe it is somehow possible and enjoy the show. Anyone can read our post carefully, and decide for themselves what they believe to be the most plausible explanation. I'm basically tired of rewriting things anyways, as I said in my last post. I simply can't think of any other way to explain it in this limited forum (no insult intended to this fine forum). You are right, if we could talk face to face with a notepad in hand...this debate might be more productive. We could communicate in a variety of ways that this forum is simply unable to provide.

That being said, I enjoyed the debate Owen, and hope to have many more fine conversations with you. If nothing else, we at least gave each others brains a nice workout... and that is usually a good thing. I love science, and history... which is why I love Stargate. We got to explore some of the possible science side of it, and that is why I joined Gateworld... to discuss such cool stuff with people who actually want to talk about it.

[Anubis345]

i say leave it to the Ancients all this techno babbel

[_Owen_]

You are completly right, I don't disagree with anything you said. Our cconversation has showed people who don't understand, nor want to understand that there is obviously some science behind it all and it must be possible if there can be allmost a page of never ending posts that debate it. It has also given the people who do understand something to intrest them. I completly agree with you, this forum is great but there is a limit to how much you can do over a post based set up on the internet, and that is applicible to all websites, I like personal conversations better because they are a lot more efficient, I can't think of any reasons know other than it was REALLY tiring typing all of that. That is bassically what we did, type the same thing over and over, that was kind of pointless now that I look back. Yes, I enjoyed the debate as well and look forward to any discussions in the future, I can't agree with you more on the reason that I joined the forum, and ya, I gues that is it, I hope to have another debate with you another time, maybe next time it can be one where we don't just repeat ourselves. lol. Thank you very much for the discussion.

Owen Macri

[_Owen_]

i say leave it to the Ancients all this techno babbel

lol, you know, this technobabble actually means something. If you think this is technobable, you havn't even touched the surface yet, let alone scratched it.

Owen Macri

[Seastallion]

i say leave it to the Ancients all this techno babbel

Owen is right... It is only babbel if you don't understand it. It's actually not that complicated... if we were all together in the same location we could pull out the pencil and paper to give each other visuals which would go a long ways in helping each other to understand the other.

[_Owen_]

Ya, and if we were in the same location, we could simply repeat our points unedlessly, using speech instead of typing which is far more tiring. lol.

Owen Macri

[Seastallion]

Ya, and if we were in the same location, we could simply repeat our points unedlessly, using speech instead of typing which is far more tiring. lol.

Owen Macri

Yeah, that is a distinct possibility. However, at least we could do it over a nice cold beverage and a hot delicious meal... Then I wouldn't care, because I'd be happy my tummy was getting filled, and my taste buds satiated...

[_Owen_]

Lol, good point.

Owen Macri

[Col. Newman]

You People need to remember that the writers are inconsistent in many thing, this EXTREMELY annoying but they are artist and not logical thinkers they have to be to come up with dialog and all that

Not that it was said in the show but this is the best explanation to the most of the episodes

6thMonolith's theory: Each 'gate was given an address when it was made. When an address is dialed, the specific gate is hunted down, like a phone book, and then is activated. My theory falls to bits when you have more than one 'gate in a system, for both the addresses would be the same(The Antartic/Egyptian gates have the same address).

i don't think the addresses have any thing to do with the actual positions of the Stargates, there would be math involved and positions and all that but that would all be kept track of automatically

Remember again, that the writer twist things previously said to go along with there stories

[spg_1983]

You People need to remember that the writers are inconsistent in many thing, this EXTREMELY annoying but they are artist and not logical thinkers they have to be to come up with dialog and all that

Not that it was said in the show but this is the best explanation to the most of the episodes
i don't think the addresses have any thing to do with the actual positions of the Stargates, there would be math involved and positions and all that but that would all be kept track of automatically

Remember again, that the writer twist things previously said to go along with there stories

except that they have the ability to calculate a gates position based on the address with out dialing it, so the address has to be a mapping system for the gates

[Col. Newman]

You People need to remember that the writers are inconsistent in many thing, this EXTREMELY annoying but they are artist and not logical thinkers they have to be to come up with dialog and all that

Not that it was said in the show but this is the best explanation to the most of the episodes

i don't think the addresses have any thing to do with the actual positions of the Stargates, there would be math involved and positions and all that but that would all be kept track of automatically

Remember again, that the writer twist things previously said to go along with there stories

i didn't say all the episodes, i just said it explains MOST of the episodes

[6thMonolith]

Yeah. They calculated the position of taonas proklarush, but when they found Atlantis's address, they had no idea where it was.

Newman, remember that when you move a 'gate, its address changes with the actual location of the 'gate.

[_Owen_]

Yes, I would have to agree with 6thMonolith, the stargate do use mathematics to calculate the positions or the gates in space.

Owen Macri

[Col. Newman]

i know the gate does math calculations, i said that those calculations have nothing to do with the address