You just love writing walls of tect to defend your percious Asgard ey? I though i said, that we should specialize on something more specifically, instead of making these pointless long posts. What's your goal anyway? Noon is gonna convince me that the Asgard could beat the Ancients, so why are you trying? 
1.I did not "heavily imply it".
2.Who cares if you weep or not. If they had the power to do this , then they had the power to do this. Once again, do you think they built something that they could not power? If hyperdrives are so much more better because they consume less power, then why do you think they even created the wormhole drive. Doesn't matter, it's superior in speed= it's superior in speed. We are not argueing about how much energy it takes, we're argueing about which one is faster.
*Also it may just be that as with other similar thing, the main part of power is consumed upon the creation of the window and then upon exit. Maybe the creation of the window took about 1,4 ZPMs, then the exit another 1,4 and the jump itself only 0,2. Hence they only used it for very long jumps, like at distances of tens/hundreds of millions of LY.(light years) This is speculation, but since we don't really know and you like to bash it, i can also hype it.
*Making ZPMs might have been hindered during the war indeed, but then what isn't? The Asgard were getting sliced by the Reaplicators. They weren't even strong enough to enforce their treaty with the Goa'uld. Now a race that is degrading dna-wise, that is loosing a war with an enemy, a race that isn't even capable of enforcing a treaty they signed and a race who is taking knowledge out of the Ancient's database, doesn't really seem all that big to me.
3.I see your point and yes it's true, BUT if they reached that speed in 1 second , then that is a measurement of engine power. You seem to like to always bash all uncertain aspects about the Ancients and then boost the uncertain aspects of the Asgard...
4.I don't quite get what you're saying, when you say i'm wrong...A ZPM is more powerful then a Neutrino Ion Generator. Hence everything gets a bigger boost (specially the Replicators) with ZPM levels of power output. Besides if the Tau'ri don't have the proper conduits and infrastructure, a simple NIG slapped on the ship won't make that much of a difference.
5.Asgard drive tech is not superior. Wormhole drive = faster. The end. Besides the fact that they didn't use fast drives on Auroras, doesn't mean that they didn't have them or weren't able to construct them. They didn't have them on Auroras for a reason.
6.LOL how is it "speculation" when we see Jack inside Thor's ship's computer, using the Ancient knowledge? It's a fact and i think i can dig up more then that one instance. To be honest without Ancient knowledge, the Asgard and everyone else in Milky Way would be toast long ago...
7.So? It's still a Jumper carrying and deploying them.
8.The humans were able to help defeat the Replicators, but they weren't able to defeat or help defeat the Wraith = Wraith are a more powerful enemy then the Replicators. The Asgard's cousins ( The Vanir )were also getting their asses kicked by the Wraith in Pegasus.
*Who cares about the Replicators- they got PWNT. That's what matters. The Wratih did NOT get pwnt. You largely underestimate the Wraith. As soon as they got their hands on a ZPM, they were able to make millions of more Wraith. In a way also replicating like their Milky Way machine couterparts. They were also physically stronegr and more enduring then most other species, they had self regeneration and were resistant to disease.
The Ancients had superior numbers? The only bloody reason they lost because of having less numbers...For an example, even if you have one Daedalus, when 100 bloody Ha'taks are bombarding it, then you're gonna loose.
*Also are you trying to say that the Asgard didn't have an advantage in the beginning? Why did they even poke the Replicators or try to fight if they knew that it was pointless? Hence they thought that they could win, but hey...they couldn't.
9.Hives got their privates ripped off long ago? Huh?
10.That's because you had no point to begin with. It has been stated in another topic that the computer probably sensed threat and instead of firing a normal amount of drones, chose to fire all it had left in order to defend itsef.
11.I don't get what you mean. The ship is moving faster then it's "fire" ever could.
12.Well why would the Replicators not fly at max speed? Still, Asgard power gen is inferior, but that's already an established fact so yeah.
Why do you think that a bigger drive = more speed? Maybe there's a max speed.
13.I don't ignore anything, since a bigger drive does not = more speed necessarily. Ancient power generation is just superior. Also the Asgard shields still drop at exit = weakness.
14.Are you joking? I wasn't proven wrong. You delusional or something? I just couldn't be bothered to keep argueing about something that we can both only speculate about. You don't know for sure that Asgard ships with Asgard shields don't suffer the bleed-through. Even if they don't then so what? Whoopdie doo, 1 up for the poor Asgard rofl. Who cares, their shields still drop at exit = weakness once again.
15.No you use it as an excuse to claim that Asgard ships are godly.
16.No you are wrong, because you claim that "oh the Ancients suffered a plague". Seriously, what the heck does that proove rofl? What does that even have to do with this thread and their ships? The Asgard can suffer it too, so what? It's like you don't have enough real stats to show that the Asgard pwn, so you have to bring in some rather unsubstantial and off-topic things here, in order to try to boost them.
17.It's cos they don't exist today, now do they... -.-
18.Umm i think it is, since the entire franchise is named after it...
19.Why do you think that their main point/goal in life was to make more babies rofl? That's a primitive understanding as shown by the thirld world countries making doezens of kids inside one family and then most of them dieng. Overpopulation and not non-sustainability.
20.The Asgard can be allies as much as they want, the Ancients are still the Uber-race.
21.Who said that they didn't have ways of downloading that infromation into a hard drive and then "googling" what they needed? Why do you think they had to directly shove it all into their heads. I think even their heads would explode from the amount of knowledge left by the Ancients.
22.Yes i know about Alexandria. Also who cares, what someone compared it too. That might have been that character's own personal opinion. The fact that you are in an alliance, doesn't mean that you are equal in power to all the other allies.
23.Well if they were so advanced then where were their early warning systems and sensor arrays? You really expect me to believe that the Vanir got taken totally off-guard? Lol.
34.That was a plot driven piece of crap. Besides those few dozen or whatever people do not = the enitre Ancient population.
35.Stagnation? If you have reached a pinnacle in a certain level then how can you call that stagnation? A square can't be turned into a circle, no matter how "high-tech" you are. Maybe they just enjoyed it and slided around Also they wanted to ascend.
36.And the bad thing about having a bigger crew is ? It CAN be manned by one person, that's all that matters. Rather it's the Asgard who are weak, for they only have 1 gray-arse to spare per ship. Not very helpful when you get boarded or when you need to apply physical repairs.
37.I don't think it's biased, since clearly a lot of people have expressed admiration at how it's even possible that the Ancients lost to the Wraith.
*Also do you think that the Wraith didn't adapt to Ancient tactics etc? Ofcourse they did.
38.
*The Nox are not unexistant. They're very much alive.
*The Asgard aren't all dead...The Vanir.
*The Furlings- you can't really claim anything about them.
*The Ancients- maybe there's a few more Auroras at 0.99c flying around xD
*Comparatively? Matter of interpretation. The Tau'ri are maggots compared to any of the other races and have only made it thi far, because they were given all the knowledge on a silver platter.
39.But the Wraith can beam people up from the ground or from other places (even inside buildings) and then get all the knowledge they need from them, via the Queen's telepathic abilities. You suggesting that no Ancient ever took a walk, that all of them were hiding in their ships lol?
40.The Ancients had reached the pinnacle in many areas and sat on it. I mean life isn't all about trying to figure out new technology all the time. Besides ascension > all their tech anyway.
Being too dependant on the technology, like the Asgard were, was their ultimate downfall. I mean look at their physical bodies...
Technology alone isn't what wins a war. The Ancients had other interests aswell and finally they reached the highest: ascension.
The Asgard relied on their tech and ended up comitting mass suicide...bleh
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As a side note: your location: My throne in heaven? You feel the need to be right all the time much? xD Alright, alright, take it easy
Ancietns pwn though...srsly naw
1.I did not "heavily imply it".
2.Who cares if you weep or not. If they had the power to do this , then they had the power to do this. Once again, do you think they built something that they could not power? If hyperdrives are so much more better because they consume less power, then why do you think they even created the wormhole drive. Doesn't matter, it's superior in speed= it's superior in speed. We are not argueing about how much energy it takes, we're argueing about which one is faster.
*Also it may just be that as with other similar thing, the main part of power is consumed upon the creation of the window and then upon exit. Maybe the creation of the window took about 1,4 ZPMs, then the exit another 1,4 and the jump itself only 0,2. Hence they only used it for very long jumps, like at distances of tens/hundreds of millions of LY.(light years) This is speculation, but since we don't really know and you like to bash it, i can also hype it.
*Making ZPMs might have been hindered during the war indeed, but then what isn't? The Asgard were getting sliced by the Reaplicators. They weren't even strong enough to enforce their treaty with the Goa'uld. Now a race that is degrading dna-wise, that is loosing a war with an enemy, a race that isn't even capable of enforcing a treaty they signed and a race who is taking knowledge out of the Ancient's database, doesn't really seem all that big to me.
3.I see your point and yes it's true, BUT if they reached that speed in 1 second , then that is a measurement of engine power. You seem to like to always bash all uncertain aspects about the Ancients and then boost the uncertain aspects of the Asgard...
4.I don't quite get what you're saying, when you say i'm wrong...A ZPM is more powerful then a Neutrino Ion Generator. Hence everything gets a bigger boost (specially the Replicators) with ZPM levels of power output. Besides if the Tau'ri don't have the proper conduits and infrastructure, a simple NIG slapped on the ship won't make that much of a difference.
5.Asgard drive tech is not superior. Wormhole drive = faster. The end. Besides the fact that they didn't use fast drives on Auroras, doesn't mean that they didn't have them or weren't able to construct them. They didn't have them on Auroras for a reason.
6.LOL how is it "speculation" when we see Jack inside Thor's ship's computer, using the Ancient knowledge? It's a fact and i think i can dig up more then that one instance. To be honest without Ancient knowledge, the Asgard and everyone else in Milky Way would be toast long ago...
7.So? It's still a Jumper carrying and deploying them.
8.The humans were able to help defeat the Replicators, but they weren't able to defeat or help defeat the Wraith = Wraith are a more powerful enemy then the Replicators. The Asgard's cousins ( The Vanir )were also getting their asses kicked by the Wraith in Pegasus.
*Who cares about the Replicators- they got PWNT. That's what matters. The Wratih did NOT get pwnt. You largely underestimate the Wraith. As soon as they got their hands on a ZPM, they were able to make millions of more Wraith. In a way also replicating like their Milky Way machine couterparts. They were also physically stronegr and more enduring then most other species, they had self regeneration and were resistant to disease.
The Ancients had superior numbers? The only bloody reason they lost because of having less numbers...For an example, even if you have one Daedalus, when 100 bloody Ha'taks are bombarding it, then you're gonna loose.
*Also are you trying to say that the Asgard didn't have an advantage in the beginning? Why did they even poke the Replicators or try to fight if they knew that it was pointless? Hence they thought that they could win, but hey...they couldn't.
9.Hives got their privates ripped off long ago? Huh?
10.That's because you had no point to begin with. It has been stated in another topic that the computer probably sensed threat and instead of firing a normal amount of drones, chose to fire all it had left in order to defend itsef.
11.I don't get what you mean. The ship is moving faster then it's "fire" ever could.
12.Well why would the Replicators not fly at max speed? Still, Asgard power gen is inferior, but that's already an established fact so yeah.
Why do you think that a bigger drive = more speed? Maybe there's a max speed.
13.I don't ignore anything, since a bigger drive does not = more speed necessarily. Ancient power generation is just superior. Also the Asgard shields still drop at exit = weakness.
14.Are you joking? I wasn't proven wrong. You delusional or something? I just couldn't be bothered to keep argueing about something that we can both only speculate about. You don't know for sure that Asgard ships with Asgard shields don't suffer the bleed-through. Even if they don't then so what? Whoopdie doo, 1 up for the poor Asgard rofl. Who cares, their shields still drop at exit = weakness once again.
15.No you use it as an excuse to claim that Asgard ships are godly.
16.No you are wrong, because you claim that "oh the Ancients suffered a plague". Seriously, what the heck does that proove rofl? What does that even have to do with this thread and their ships? The Asgard can suffer it too, so what? It's like you don't have enough real stats to show that the Asgard pwn, so you have to bring in some rather unsubstantial and off-topic things here, in order to try to boost them.
17.It's cos they don't exist today, now do they... -.-
18.Umm i think it is, since the entire franchise is named after it...
19.Why do you think that their main point/goal in life was to make more babies rofl? That's a primitive understanding as shown by the thirld world countries making doezens of kids inside one family and then most of them dieng. Overpopulation and not non-sustainability.
20.The Asgard can be allies as much as they want, the Ancients are still the Uber-race.
21.Who said that they didn't have ways of downloading that infromation into a hard drive and then "googling" what they needed? Why do you think they had to directly shove it all into their heads. I think even their heads would explode from the amount of knowledge left by the Ancients.
22.Yes i know about Alexandria. Also who cares, what someone compared it too. That might have been that character's own personal opinion. The fact that you are in an alliance, doesn't mean that you are equal in power to all the other allies.
23.Well if they were so advanced then where were their early warning systems and sensor arrays? You really expect me to believe that the Vanir got taken totally off-guard? Lol.
34.That was a plot driven piece of crap. Besides those few dozen or whatever people do not = the enitre Ancient population.
35.Stagnation? If you have reached a pinnacle in a certain level then how can you call that stagnation? A square can't be turned into a circle, no matter how "high-tech" you are. Maybe they just enjoyed it and slided around
Also they wanted to ascend.36.And the bad thing about having a bigger crew is ? It CAN be manned by one person, that's all that matters. Rather it's the Asgard who are weak, for they only have 1 gray-arse to spare per ship. Not very helpful when you get boarded or when you need to apply physical repairs.
37.I don't think it's biased, since clearly a lot of people have expressed admiration at how it's even possible that the Ancients lost to the Wraith.
*Also do you think that the Wraith didn't adapt to Ancient tactics etc? Ofcourse they did.
38.
*The Nox are not unexistant. They're very much alive.
*The Asgard aren't all dead...The Vanir.
*The Furlings- you can't really claim anything about them.
*The Ancients- maybe there's a few more Auroras at 0.99c flying around xD
*Comparatively? Matter of interpretation. The Tau'ri are maggots compared to any of the other races and have only made it thi far, because they were given all the knowledge on a silver platter.
39.But the Wraith can beam people up from the ground or from other places (even inside buildings) and then get all the knowledge they need from them, via the Queen's telepathic abilities. You suggesting that no Ancient ever took a walk, that all of them were hiding in their ships lol?
40.The Ancients had reached the pinnacle in many areas and sat on it. I mean life isn't all about trying to figure out new technology all the time. Besides ascension > all their tech anyway.
Being too dependant on the technology, like the Asgard were, was their ultimate downfall. I mean look at their physical bodies...
Technology alone isn't what wins a war. The Ancients had other interests aswell and finally they reached the highest: ascension.
The Asgard relied on their tech and ended up comitting mass suicide...bleh
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As a side note: your location: My throne in heaven? You feel the need to be right all the time much? xD Alright, alright, take it easy
Ancietns pwn though...srsly naw
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