Rings on Atlantis?

[gkyun]

Nah. There were rings in the Antartic outpost because it was an old settlement for the Ancients. Whereas Atlantis was a state of the art, newly built city when it left Earth, so it stands to reason that it would have more advanced transporters than the rings, which explains the absence thereof.

A real world analogy would be the commonplace hoist elevators and the more advanced hydraulic ones in newer buildings without the counterweight.

[Asgard Flu]

There was a set of rings in the ancient outpost in Antartica when Atlantis left earth some millions of years ago, it would make sense that there would be a ring transporter on Atlantis as well. In complete speculation, I believe that the rings were the first design, and that there would probably be some rings throughout the Pegasus galaxy as well as some on Destiny as well.

Common sense would say that the city of Atlantis would have been constantly upgraded and updated over the millions of years it's been around as technology progressed. They'd have had those rings pulled out and more advanced tech put in as soon as it was available.

[dr.chrismckay]

Common sense would say that the city of Atlantis would have been constantly upgraded and updated over the millions of years it's been around as technology progressed. They'd have had those rings pulled out and more advanced tech put in as soon as it was available.

Though this does hold true in a lot of instances, let's look at some of their technologies, such as the use of ZPM's, shields, weapons. These had been around since the first lantean settlement in the milky way. If they had been upgrading their technologies, wouldn't it have made more sense to upgrade these technologies rather than ring transporters. Their technologies were present since proclarush taonas.

[gkyun]

Though this does hold true in a lot of instances, let's look at some of their technologies, such as the use of ZPM's, shields, weapons. These had been around since the first lantean settlement in the milky way. If they had been upgrading their technologies, wouldn't it have made more sense to upgrade these technologies rather than ring transporters. Their technologies were present since proclarush taonas.

As far as those examples you've given are concerned, it just means the Ancients had probably reached the pinnacle of their achievements in that regard, with the exception of rings which still had room for improvement.

[dr.chrismckay]

As far as those examples you've given are concerned, it just means the Ancients had probably reached the pinnacle of their achievements in that regard, with the exception of rings which still had room for improvement.

As you state, probably, but we don't know. We have seen the ancients progress some of their technologies since leaving the milky way, except rings. Is it not possible that they had felt that rings were not a priority as their war with the wraith caused them to step back from other advancements and focus on the technologies that would have helped them in their war? Also, at the time they left the milky way, they may have not had need for ring transporters as they had puddlejumpers to get to the surface of planets.

[gkyun]

I'm afraid I'm not sure what point you're making. Rings are commonplace in the Milky Way because those were the most common of the Ancients' version of a lift. The reason there are no rings on Atlantis is because it was newly built then and it comprised of the most advanced of technologies the Ancients had at their disposal which, in this instance, included the more advanced transporter room. So why would you go back to the horse carriage when a car is a better mode of transport?

[dr.chrismckay]

My point is that the ancients may have felt that ring transporters were not a priority in advancing technologically. This is just making assumptions though. Just because we haven't seen them in use doesn't mean they are not there. It's also an example of many of the over ambitious advancements the ancients were working on. It is possible the transporter rooms were the first in ringless transportation.

[garhkal]

Plus having them on their ships with ring down into atlanis capability would have been a major security threat.

[dr.chrismckay]

Plus having them on their ships with ring down into atlanis capability would have been a major security threat.

I would think that they would have built in security protocol where only the ancient gene would allow the ships ring(less) transporters to function.

[starburst]

The transporters on Atlantis are obviously the next stage in the development from the transport rings.

You never know the rings and transporters may even be compatible, although there is the issue that the rings can transport larger objects than those on Atlantis.

Its possible that Asgard transporters are an advancement on this technology.

[dr.chrismckay]

You never know the rings and transporters may even be compatible, although there is the issue that the rings can transport larger objects than those on Atlantis.

It is possible that they are, though there is still the issue of why we haven't seen any in use in the PG. maybe because the Wraith would have potentially destroyed any technology that wasn't their own or couldn't use.

[garhkal]

I would think that they would have built in security protocol where only the ancient gene would allow the ships ring(less) transporters to function.

You would think. but look at how many ancient techs they have left around that did not require the gene..

[Jper]

You would think. but look at how many ancient techs they have left around that did not require the gene..

Exactly, a lot didn't have that protection, the stargate being one of the biggest examples of that.

[dr.chrismckay]

Exactly, a lot didn't have that protection, the stargate being one of the biggest examples of that.

We are also talking about gaining access to there crowning achievement. Nothing in Atlantis worked without the activation from the gene, and the more sensitive technologies required the gene to be used.

[Jper]

We are also talking about gaining access to there crowning achievement. Nothing in Atlantis worked without the activation from the gene, and the more sensitive technologies required the gene to be used.

Wouldn't you call the gates to be their biggest legacy? And imho it is a sensitive technology. Especially since what it allowed other races to do with it. The truth is the Ancients probably just did not care. But in the end that came back to bite them, didn't it and so then only then they built in the safeguard of the gene.