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Best quotes ever:
O’NEILL: I hope you like Guinness, Sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for food.
Jack O'neill: I hope you diplomatically told him where to shove it.
Teal'c:If you once again try to harm me or one of my companions, my patience with you will expire.
Carter: You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water.
Thor:I like the yellow ones
O´Neill:Hey, if you had been listening, you´d know that Nintendos pass through everything.
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Originally posted by DaCk View PostIt doesnt matter about the density it matters about the objects and their affects on the space in hyperspace. We dont know how far out the gravity stretches in hyperspace. Or any other type of thing that could make it dense in hyperspace.
Originally posted by umopapisdnScientists don't really know why when 2 galaxies collide they separate again...
Originally posted by umopapisdn...the black holes should draw together but they don't...
Originally posted by umopapisdn...they believe this is a result of dark matter.
Originally posted by J_schinderlin56Ok here are some more basic numbers
If we assume a round distance of 3 Million in a streight line from Earth to Lantia, and a 304 can get there in 3 weeks that works out to 1 million Light Years Per Week. That's 52 Million times the speed of Light!
Originally posted by J_schinderlin56And Atlantis is faster! Geeze.
Originally posted by J_schinderlin56On a side note: That would mean that a 304 Could traverse the entire Observable UNIVERSE in just over 300 Years.
Originally posted by MylesThe observable universe is about 90 billion light years across. At a 1 million ly/week that is 90,000 weeks, which is 1730 years.Jarnin's Law of StarGate:
1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.
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Originally posted by Myles View PostWhere do you get 300 years from to cross the universe? The observable universe is about 90 billion light years across. At a 1 million ly/week that is 90,000 weeks, which is 1730 years.
The size of the Observable Universe is about 90 Billion Light years. With the Radius being about 45 Billion Light years in any given direction from Earth to the edge, oddly enough indicateing that earth is somewhere in the center of the Observable Universe give or take a few Billion Light years.Sheppard's team runs into Kolya on a planet:
Koyla:"That's right Sheppard, I've got you right where I want you. And there's nothing you can do about it. Your plan was flawed, mine is perfect.This time I have a new gotee, and a black cloak. And I know for a fact that anyone would be scared of that. Now give me the ZPM or I'll kill the guy with the dreadlocks."
5 seconds later....
Kolya is hanging from a tree by his underwear.
Wa Wa Waaaaa.....
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Originally posted by J_schinderlin56 View PostYup You're right! I just re did the math and got the 1730 Number 2. I did the math wrong the first time. Duh!
The size of the Observable Universe is about 90 Billion Light years. With the Radius being about 45 Billion Light years in any given direction from Earth to the edge, oddly enough indicateing that earth is somewhere in the center of the Observable Universe give or take a few Billion Light years.
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Originally posted by Myles View PostWell, I'm not well versed in the subject at all, but I would think it's because we can only see so far in every direction. That's why the observable is thrown in there. I suppose it's possible there's stuff beyond what we can see. It would be too ironic if we really were the center of the universe.
In Big Bang cosmology, the observable universe is the region of space bounded by a sphere, centered on the observer, that is small enough that we might observe objects in it, i.e. there has been sufficient time for light emitted by an object to arrive at the observer. Every position has its own observable universe which may or may not overlap with the one centered around the Earth.
The word observable used in this sense has nothing to do with whether modern technology actually permits us to detect radiation from an object in this region. It simply means that it is possible for light or other radiation from the object to reach an observer on earth. In practice, we can only observe objects as far as the surface of last scattering, when the universe became transparent. However, it may be possible to infer information from before this time through the detection of gravitational waves.
The comoving distance from the Earth to the edge of the visible universe (also called cosmic light horizon) is about 46.5 billion light-years in any direction.[4] This defines the comoving radius of the observable universe. The observable universe is thus a sphere with a diameter of 92–94 billion light-years. Since space is roughly flat, this size corresponds to a comoving volume of about
or 3.56×1080 cubic meters.
The figures quoted above are distances now (in cosmological time), not distances at the time the light was emitted. For example, the cosmic microwave background radiation that we see right now was emitted about 13.7 billion years ago by matter that has, in the intervening time, condensed into galaxies. Those galaxies are now about 46 billion light-years from us, but at the time the light was emitted, that matter was only about 40 million light-years away from the matter that would eventually become the Earth.Sheppard's team runs into Kolya on a planet:
Koyla:"That's right Sheppard, I've got you right where I want you. And there's nothing you can do about it. Your plan was flawed, mine is perfect.This time I have a new gotee, and a black cloak. And I know for a fact that anyone would be scared of that. Now give me the ZPM or I'll kill the guy with the dreadlocks."
5 seconds later....
Kolya is hanging from a tree by his underwear.
Wa Wa Waaaaa.....
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Slightly off topic. There has been a theory that at one stage whilst the universe was just starting to form much of the matter actually went faster than the speed of light because of the amount of energy, because of the amount of energy the laws of physics as we know them don't apply.Best quotes ever:
O’NEILL: I hope you like Guinness, Sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for food.
Jack O'neill: I hope you diplomatically told him where to shove it.
Teal'c:If you once again try to harm me or one of my companions, my patience with you will expire.
Carter: You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water.
Thor:I like the yellow ones
O´Neill:Hey, if you had been listening, you´d know that Nintendos pass through everything.
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Originally posted by umopapisdn View PostSlightly off topic. There has been a theory that at one stage whilst the universe was just starting to form much of the matter actually went faster than the speed of light because of the amount of energy, because of the amount of energy the laws of physics as we know them don't apply.
Inflation states that not long after the big bang the universe expanded faster than the speed of light. No laws of physics were broken though, because space can stretch faster than the speed of light as long as local objects in that space don't exceed the speed of light.
Think warp drive: The ship isn't traveling faster than light through space, the space that ship occupies is traveling faster than light and the ship is just along for the ride.Jarnin's Law of StarGate:
1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.
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Hey Jarnin, correct me if im wrong but in essense does the hyperdrive engine just create a field around the ship, creates the hyperdrive window, and "pulls" two locations of 2D space together? The propulsion in hyperspace would be the exact same as if it were outside, so sublight engines? Because if it is then we could come up with accurate numbers on how much more efficient asgard hyperdrives on asgard ships are, or how much faster their sublight is.Their white flags are no match to our guns!!
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Originally posted by 2ndgenerationalteran View PostHey Jarnin, correct me if im wrong but in essense does the hyperdrive engine just create a field around the ship, creates the hyperdrive window, and "pulls" two locations of 2D space together?
Originally posted by 2ndgenerationalteran View PostThe propulsion in hyperspace would be the exact same as if it were outside, so sublight engines?
Originally posted by 2ndgenerationalteran View PostBecause if it is then we could come up with accurate numbers on how much more efficient asgard hyperdrives on asgard ships are, or how much faster their sublight is.
They've never gotten into the specifics of hyperspace travel, but I'd say it's a varient of warp drive, in that the ship inflates (warps) compactified dimensions (subspace) to allow it to travel through dimensions not normally accessible.
Basically, you're creating a wormhole, but instead of creating your own hole, you're using an existing compactified dimension.
In any case, this won't help us figure out the speeds of things.Jarnin's Law of StarGate:
1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.
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We can work out the speed of things like the deadelus and asgard ships as long as the places are based on reality, which it seems they partially are, but we don't really have enough evidence to work out atlantis. All this is is really conjecture.Best quotes ever:
O’NEILL: I hope you like Guinness, Sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for food.
Jack O'neill: I hope you diplomatically told him where to shove it.
Teal'c:If you once again try to harm me or one of my companions, my patience with you will expire.
Carter: You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water.
Thor:I like the yellow ones
O´Neill:Hey, if you had been listening, you´d know that Nintendos pass through everything.
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Originally posted by umopapisdn View PostWe can work out the speed of things like the deadelus and asgard ships as long as the places are based on reality, which it seems they partially are, but we don't really have enough evidence to work out atlantis. All this is is really conjecture.
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Originally posted by .jolinar. View PostThis is correct. Tau'ri ships do not produce sufficient power to maximise the output efficiency of the Hyperdrive engine to 100%. Asgard ships have the nessesary power. When powered by the ZPM the Deadalus maximised the output of its Hyperdrive to 100% therefore traveling at the speed of an Asgard ship. Which is fast. So the amount of power provided is directly proportional to the efficiency of the Hyperdrive engine. More power faster ship.
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