Design your own Atlantis defense system

[FatTzu]

Nope, ZPMs are not rechargeable. The only reason being that it's a convient plot device, technically Zeropoint energy should be infinite anyway.

[Gyronictonic]

They have all the time in the universe, i think they would just blast the asteroid field away w/ their inifinite amount of main cannon fire. if they dont want to blas it, im sure they can always fly around it. creating a man-made asteroid field, big enough to hinder Wraith fleet is illogical and waste of time. maybe if we have more ships but we only have 2 and the rest keeps blowing up. i think the SAMs idea would only be a last ditch defense. why wait till they come at point blank range while you can shoot them at a safe distance.

[Harekin]

Here is a definition of Zero Point Energy for anyone who wants to know...http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html

[cooky]

Here's my take on the Wraith problem and Atlantis's defense

In the first Genni episode we learned that there were approximatelly 60 hiveships in our quadrant of Pegasus alone. Assuming that the other 3 quadrants have simillar numbers then there are roughlly 240 hive ships in Pegasus. This is a small estimate in my opinion. More likelly, there are 60 hives in our quadrant, with only the smaller ones having a single hive ship, and the larger ones having multiple hive ships. Facing even a quarter of these at one time is well beyond our resources. Especially since defending Earth is a higher priority.

Deploying a minefield to defend a single world takes thousands, if not tens of thousands of mines. Earth has been building them since atleast mid season 8/1. Though we could build the numbers needed to defend one world, (though it may take many years to build the numbers needed) two is questionable. Also, the mines we saw in Siege pt 2 were designed to defend against Gua'uld ships, not Wraith. The ineffectiveness of the mines sensor stealthing vs. Wraith tech is proof enough of this. We've only had access to Wraith tech since mid-season 2 when we captured one dart. Developing a mine that is sensor stealthed against Wraith sensors could take years, if its even possible. Using cloaks is not an option, that is a technology we haven't been able to reverse-engineer. For these reasons, a minefield is unlikelly for atleast several years.

Missles could be made useable against one or two hiveships at a time, but not a fleet of larger numbers. In Siege pt 2 it was darts, not the hive ships or cruisers that shot down Daedalus's missiles. The larger ships guns, logically, would have a much harder time tracking small maneuverable objects like missiles. In order to hit a hive with missiles, we'd have to strip it of its dart escort. The Hive showed that a single hive ship can hold at least 80 darts, probly many more. Using effective tactics, 10-20 302's and a couple of jumpers could draw the darts away from a hive long enough for Daedalus, hiding out of sensor range, to micro-jump into the battle, launch a spread of nukes and get clear. Again, any more than a couple of hive ships and there would be far to many darts for our fighters to draw out. There are other tactics we could employ with going suicidal in a jumper to hit hive ships with missiles.

Ultimatelly, our best defense is to keep the Wraith away from Atlantis. Maintaining the illusion of Atlantis's destruction is only one way to do this. Using the Pegasus Alpha site as a sort of buffer, never dialing Atlantis directly from another gate when possible will help maintain that illusion. Relocating Atlantis to a better planet is another. A planet who's atmosphere interfears with Wraith sensors would be ideal. One that the Wraith have already wiped out would also be a good choice as they're unlikelly to look on a world they believe is no longer inhabited. Another consideration would be one that already has some defensive capabilities of its own. Sateda or the planet from The Tower would fit this discription, though how much of Sateda's defensses are still operational is unkown. Ironically, Athos (Teyla's planet) may prove the best option for relocation in Pegasus. It's been visited by the Wraith recently and scorched bare, likelly meaning its atmosphere is toxic. Atlantis should be able to maintain its own atmosphere even without the shield. Since it was on Athos that the Wraith captured Col. Sumner and learned of Earth, its likelly all the Wraith learned of Athos's destruction when word of Earth spread, were as another planet that has already been attacked may be visited by other hives looking for leftovers. Athos also had an abandond Lantian city which may still have some defensive capabilities. If possible, the best option would be to relocate Atlantis to Earth, which could easilly be the most heavilly defended planet in either galaxy if real world strategy were employed rather than what is best for telling the story of the week. But Earth is another topic, and moving Atlantis even within Pegasus would require more zpm's.

The third tactic we can employ to keep the Wraith away from Atlantis, even if they learned of its survival, is to put them on the defensive. This is something we can do with our current resources.

1. Using Daedalus or another 304 to pick off lone hiveships. A 304 is more than a match for a lone hive ship if any sort of tactical thinking is employed, something we haven't seen in season 2 so far.
2. Stealing darts and using them to help forment the growing civil war, making it harder for the Wraith to work together against us.
3. Tracking the position of the various hives within Pegasus much like what the Tok'ra did with the Gua'uld fleet in in the MW, and using this to dissrupt their culling schedule by temporarilly evacuating planets the Wraith are heading for.
4. Using jumpers and Sodan cloaks (its likelly we took them after the Sodan were wiped out) to penetrate hive ships and cruisers and cunduct sabotage or spread the de-wraithing virus or a leathal bio or chemical weapon. Ultimatelly, Sodan cloaks could be used to position teams in key points on a cruiser, then jumpers and captured darts used to deploy an army (or perhaps a leathal bio/chemical weapon) to the cruiser in an attempt to capture one and use it to help forment Wraith infighting. Given a hive ships size (3.5k long in my estimate) it could potentially hold 10-20 thousand wraith, so we'd need to large an army to feasibly capture one without using some sort of bio or chemical weapon.
5. If a means to jam Wraith beaming tech could be found and deployed, we could force the Wraith to put troops on the ground in order to cull a planet. In ground combat, Earth has no equall. An armored infanty division could hold out against a Wraith force many times its size with ease, and since even an abrams tank (the largest combat vehicle in America's military) can fit through a stargate, transporting them would be easy. Transporting them to Pegasus wouldn't be that hard either. We know the Asgard have the ability to dial an 8 symbol address. Its no streatch of the imagination to assume that the Asgard designed powersupply used on the 304's would be able to power a gate to Pegasus long enough to send at least part of an infantry division through, though we'd have to relocate Earths gate temporarilly.

As long as we keep the Wraith away from Atlantis, it is safe from them. If the Wraith were ever to come in real force, there is nothing we could do to protect Atlantis were it is now, we just don't have the resources to deploy an effective orbital defense on two worlds.

[immhotep]

Very nice, i like the 5 step plan alot!
i have an idea on something, the asgard can make holograms as can atlantis, what if we bluff the wraith?
We create a massive holographic fleet atlnatis's, Oniels, Orions, PJ's F-302's, hataks and 304's...and use a cloaked series of satalite to project this fleet...we could also rig a recording of a massive hyperspace window and then have the holograms appear out of it. This could be the biggest bluff EVER, there is no way any wraith would take on a fleet of such a size, and we could do it against everyone...Earth has the technology, or the asgard wouldnt mind giving it to use...this owuld be a massive deterant and the perfect cover we could cloak the real atlantis at the same time as well, there would be no actual need for defences!

[Harekin]

Interesting thought...what happens when that one stupid Dart fires at one of the holograms tho and realises its not really a hologram? Lol, theres always that one eegit that tries anyways!

[immhotep]

well we have some real fighters in with the holograms...or cloaked Pj's, so that any fool can be shot down with out the big guns knowing.

[Harekin]

But we'd have to have something which would emit the energy signatures for fooling the Wraith scanners...

[cooky]

Yeah, a hologram would give the visual appearance of a large fleet put the energy signatures of the ships, their sensor profiles and mass readings couldn't be faked. If hive ships and cruisers use tracking systems like in the darts then visual tricks may not even be noticed.

[Harekin]

Very true, the Darts cockpits are completly opaque.

[daredevil-k]

why cant we just get more drones from that planet in the second season with the building that looks exactly like atlantis that has alot of drones?

[Andru10]

why cant we just get more drones from that planet in the second season with the building that looks exactly like atlantis that has alot of drones?

Because we already did that. (and we also got some nice Puddle Jumpers too)

[thekillman]

id make a dozen small sattelites, powersource, shield, beam weapon, computer, sensors, inercialessdrive

[Lord Excalibar]

1.SAM sites located on North, East and South West piers.

2.Anti Capital Ship Nuclear Missile System(ACSNMS) located rest of piers.

3.Torpedo Missile System
The TMS is basically a torpedo and missile in one. Located beneath the centre of the city. When fired they act as torpedoes and when clear of the city fire out of the water and become a missile.

4.Rail Cannon Defence System(RCDS)fires 200mm shells. Barrel is 5 m long. 8 located on each pier, 4 on the central tower.

5.C7 Ion Ray
7 converted satillite dishes-1 on every pier and 1 on very top of central tower. Dishes on piers fire beam which combine at central tower dish. Central dish fires ion ray at enemy ship-5 seconds later ship explodes.

[wise one]

vala modified cargo ship was able to produce ghost ships which produced four or five alkeshes with its energy signitures, with abit of modifications im sure mckay could come up with a program to produce alot of fake ships and the power from the zpm would make it easy

anubis lightning weapon on the outer piers of atlantis would wreak anything, wraith fleets,asteroid fields, probaly crack a planet