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    Covid injections anyone?
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      Originally posted by Who Knows View Post
      Covid injections anyone?
      I'll take the mRNA shot -- you can keep the covid-shot.
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        Hallelujah!!

        2 schools in the Antwerp region are going into quarantine because some folks thought the mandatory quarantine did not apply to them so -- BOOM -- the British variation has been detected in 2 kids.
        Basically over a 1000 people have to go into mandatory quarantine which means kids and their parents and everyone who they came in contact with.

        Mayors of both communities are far from amused.

        In another school, an 11-year old tested positive for the British variation. His dad neglected the mandatory quarantine. He returned from the UK recently. Dumbass!
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          Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
          So maybe it's time you started wearing that facemask a little more, and stop complaining about how the economy is crashing. I'm fairly certain your medical staff is crashing at a rate ten times worse than the economy and for the record, you do not want a veterinarian taking your temperature when there are no more human doctors left.
          For FYI... I DO wear the stupid mask.. with a filter, too. In HOT humidity and COLD weather, outside/inside whatever, wherever it is *required*. Mandatory to be worn at work, too, or whoever is NOT in compliance with that *policy* will get shown the door... and stay OUT... forever.

          As for medical... Medical procedures have *improved* since the health systems finally placed a temporary cap on WHO shows up at WHAT appointment, than cramming 3 people into the same time slot. Medical isn't a problem lately. It was when the shut-downs first began, because of lack of "social distancing" and proper PPE. I've seen nurses wearing 3 masks, which they only remove when not in the same room with another person. Otherwise, gloves, PPE, masks, they don't take unnecessary *risks* and shouldn't have to, either.

          I've been in lock down, shut-down mode ever since March 2020... Murphy kept following NY's Cuomo's rules. Locked up a lot of businesses that ended up shutting down permanently... never to open again. Lost incomes, lost everything with those people. *They* are the ones who are hurting the most.

          Anywho. NY's Cuomo was complaining he needs $15 BILLION USA dollars to rebuild the Empire State (New York has always been designated as the "Empire State" which was adopted as late as the 19th century, as per Wikipedia's historical notes)... Biden will approve giving NY the money Cuomo is asking for, so the rest of the USA will be PAYING for it in taxes (hidden or some other route). This is Cuomo's whining... Lots of USA tax-payers from other states will have to "penny up" or watch the whole economy collapse. That includes helping the other states too, which are collapsing financially speaking. Domino effect.


          Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
          I'll take the mRNA shot -- you can keep the covid-shot.
          I heard the 2nd shot has worse side effects than the first. However, my relative got the first mRNA shot and hasn't said anything about severe reactions. Her next injection is soon. Will know how that works out, because she's in her 90's.

          Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
          In the meantime, as I've been trying to say before ---- instead of hiding in a corner or under a desk/whatever or wherever, take those *immune* saving vitamins! They seem to have worked so far in many people who have stated so. It's just a matter of knowing how much of which vitamins+Zinc is enough. Otherwise, stay hidden in a (cubby)hole and stay there, until the "vaccine" comes to the rescue for (generic) *your* turn on the line.
          BTW, that wasn't directed at you, FH. Just my crazy coworkers who are hiding in their corners until they get vaxxed. They strongly believe it will be the CURE-all. But I've been hearing *rumors* of other variants (wild versions, too maybe) that are worse than the original COVID19. It's the "wild" version that can still kill a person, regardless of the mRNA. Plus, there's the "cytokine storm that can occur when the treatment "protein" (or specialized cell) attacks the healthy cells instead. There is NO illness, and NO COVID variant present."

          However, if you can take the zinc+ vitamins, lots of other people have been recommending this route, and it's worth the try if you can tolerate zinc. I have to break up a 50mg tablet into 3 portions thruout the day. So, it doesn't give me a migraine, and is spread out more evenly thruout the entire day's meals. It has protected me the entire 2020 year, especially when I had to go into the Senior Living complex to pack and move my relative's stuff (because she was in total lock-down on another floor there), where I had NO idea who had what exposure to COVID19, and *that* was a scary time, getting grilled with paperwork and temp checks, etc. Mandatory mask, and the first security guy who escorted me thru the building to where I had to work, HAD the virus... (just recovered, so he said) aggggh...!!! No one else was available nearby to help my relative, and I kept asking "why me...???!"

          On the other extreme... Because of my severe reactions to flu shots, if I get the COVID Pfizer vax or the Moderna, I might die or have serious neurological impairments. I already have neurological problems from other issues, and the specific side effect from COVID19/variant could make those existing conditions much worse. Some other people who have neurological issues are having worse ones, after they got vaxxed. So, if ya'll don't ever hear from me ever again, my motor co-ordination has been further impaired. Toodles...

          I'm not worried about the lung issues, as long as the zinc+ keeps working. In 2019, I was already heading towards pneumonia with previous sinusitis issues getting worse. Last year, I only avoided it, because I wasn't (volunteer) working for the Santa Claus teams in December 2020 from being around approximately 11,000 other people. Our state was on lock-down, and the manager cancelled all activities after 2 crew members showed signs of getting ill in November 2020. All advance purchases from customers had to be returned. My hubby was saddened that the place was dark and desolated the whole month. Some of the equipment in LOCKED storage got vandalized too, because no one was there.

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            I live in South Dakota, so this article about a Minnesota GOP lawmaker's death hits a little too close to home, literally...

            https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/u...-pandemic.html
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              Update on the schools in lockdown -- 1 school has been completely tested, the other one today.

              So far a couple 1000 people have had to go into mandatory lockdown because one person thought that it was okay to not quarantine when her first test came back negative. She neglected the 7-day mandatory quarantine and the second test at the end of it which obviously had to be negative to cut it short (the British and South-African variation require a 10-day mandatory quarantine).

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              For FYI... I DO wear the stupid mask.. with a filter, too. In HOT humidity and COLD weather, outside/inside whatever, wherever it is *required*. Mandatory to be worn at work, too, or whoever is NOT in compliance with that *policy* will get shown the door... and stay OUT... forever.
              But not everyone is, and it's showing in the statistics.

              Yeah, plenty say it's "just a flu" and recover but a lot don't and while the deaths over here range in the elderly population for the most part, I don't see that reflected in the statistics collected by John's Hopkins University. Every age range is affected in the USA -- and dies by the dozens every day.

              An economy can be rebuild, humans stay dead.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              As for medical... Medical procedures have *improved* since the health systems finally placed a temporary cap on WHO shows up at WHAT appointment...
              Delaying appointments doesn't feel like an improvement.
              And that's what happened over here.

              I have a nurse-friend who works the ER -- I've had my fair share of (horror)stories.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              ...so the rest of the USA will be PAYING for it in taxes (hidden or some other route).
              Doesn't California already do that for most of the other states?

              The economy of the State of California is the largest in the United States, boasting a $3.2 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2019. If California were a sovereign nation (2019), it would rank as the world's fifth largest economy, ahead of India and behind Germany.

              Sidenote: on the same note if New York were a country, it would rank 10th.

              Sidenote 2: Top 3 states as far as GDP goes in the USA: 1. California, 2. Texas, 3. New York

              Anywho...

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              I heard the 2nd shot has worse side effects than the first. However, my relative got the first mRNA shot and hasn't said anything about severe reactions. Her next injection is soon. Will know how that works out, because she's in her 90's.
              It has been noted, yes, but I've also heard the opposite so I guess it depends on the receiver.

              I did see that a batch of Moderna vaccines caused some allergic reactions that required further investigation.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              BTW, that wasn't directed at you, FH. Just my crazy coworkers who are hiding in their corners until they get vaxxed.
              Considering that might be a while, they'll have to hunker down a little while longer.
              If they stick to the guidelines, they should be fine.

              One can never be 100% sure. There's always a chance of getting infected... I just hope to avoid it.
              I don't need a membership to that club.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              They strongly believe it will be the CURE-all.
              I'm afraid they're going to be disappointed about that. It looks highly likely that the anti-covid-shot will be yearly thing. However, if we can contain it now by inoculating everyone, or most everyone, we actually have a fighting chance.

              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
              But I've been hearing *rumors* of other variants...
              Covid-19 is related to the common cold, related to the MERS-virus from a few years back, so... yeah, there are other variations available for pandemic-fun.

              Wait till you hear what's currently dorment in the melting ice.

              I don't think the reality has hit heard enough for a lot of people.

              I mean, 400K deaths and counting.
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                More than 5000 people affected by the closing and quarantining of those 2 schools in Antwerp.
                10 positive tests but only 2 with the newish Bristish variation.

                In the meantime, vaccinations continue -- they have started with the medical workers at hospitals though a shortage of dosages has put a wrench in that plan. It's not up to speed yet.

                All locations, however, where the Belgian population has to go to once it's the rest's turn, are finalized.

                Plans are coming together.
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                  I'm getting vaccinated on February 2. They still won't let me vaccinate my wife because vaccination right now is for people over 40, and wifey is 30 (29 on paper due to birth certificate error that's too much hassle to correct).
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                    The vigorous testing of all those kids meant they found and managed to contain a little super-spreader. An asymptomatic kid who had a "healthy" supply of virus in their system, ready to deploy.

                    Disaster averted.

                    Second round of testing is happening today and those kids testing negative, they can go back to school next week.

                    In the meantime, there will be talks today at federal level to discuss the closing of the borders to non-essential travelling. Belgium has the OK from Europe to shut down "fun travel".
                    We already have a rule in place that you need to have tested negative before arrival, which France and The Netherlands too have in place.
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                      Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
                      The vigorous testing of all those kids meant they found and managed to contain a little super-spreader. An asymptomatic kid who had a "healthy" supply of virus in their system, ready to deploy.

                      Disaster averted.

                      Second round of testing is happening today and those kids testing negative, they can go back to school next week.

                      In the meantime, there will be talks today at federal level to discuss the closing of the borders to non-essential travelling. Belgium has the OK from Europe to shut down "fun travel".
                      We already have a rule in place that you need to have tested negative before arrival, which France and The Netherlands too have in place.
                      who'd WANT to visit you guys anyway?

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                        Soul would....for reasons
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                          Originally posted by mad_gater View Post
                          who'd WANT to visit you guys anyway?
                          I know, right.

                          IF you want to visit, you have to proof you're good with a negative test.

                          Our travel is restricted as of wednesday though. Non-essential travelling is forbidden.

                          The Netherlands have a curfew since last friday -- 9pm to 4:30am.
                          France altered their curfew from 9pm 6pm to 6pm.
                          Germany doesn't have a curfew (I think).

                          In any case, Belgium's boxed in by these so curfews all around.
                          Last edited by Falcon Horus; 26 January 2021, 01:06 AM. Reason: France has a curfew starting at 6pm not 9.
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                            Well, just found out that the persona who got me sick a year ago just happened to get sick again a few weeks ago, but this time he got a definite confirmation of the COVID19 virus. When I heard him in the building coughing, I just kept wondering if he'd end up with the virus, and sure enough he did.

                            That alone makes me even 99% more certain that he either had THE COVID virus or a strong variant of it a year ago, but couldn't get confirmation because there were no tests being provided at that time. Fortunately, he's been wearing a mask ever since our bosses enforced new policies, and kept his distance most of the time... I guess he hasn't been taking those vitamins, either. But can't imagine how horrible his lungs and other organs must be feeling if this is his 2nd bout with the bug.

                            And, just for the record, he *is* the person who went to China last year on his vacation, but came back sick... coughed for over a whole month... and then I got sick from not being able to avoid his air-borne germs twice, while passing him in the hallway. That was before *facial masks* were mandatory.

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                              Originally posted by SGalisa View Post
                              But can't imagine how horrible his lungs and other organs must be feeling if this is his 2nd bout with the bug.
                              In general, a second infection can be worse than the first time around.

                              The husband of a colleague of my aunt, had it twice and he was a lot sicker the second time than he had been the first time around. He hadn't build up enough resistance with the first round.

                              *******

                              Looks like Pfizer and AstraZeneca have some issues delivering on their agreed stock of vaccines -- who woulda thunk that?

                              Anywho... I took a look at our holidays this year, and I'm at least hoping for a small reprieve in November. During the summer it looks very likely that we'll take the campervan around Belgium instead of any of the nearby countries (UK is out of the question but not because of Covid or Brexit -- taking a campervan through the tunnel is a lot of hassle).

                              Then again, plenty left to see in this tiny country of ours.
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                                Hot topic in Belgium right now: "Who gets vaccinated first after the old folks and at-risk people?"

                                Some 40-50 year old famous morons wrote an open letter saying that this age group (which now includes me) would be more than happy to give up their place to the youngsters in the vaccination order cause it would give them some perspective on normality.

                                You can imagine that this did not go down well with 3/4 of people in that age bracket... and a lot of pent up frustrations were send flying into the ether.

                                Also, getting vaccinated doesn't actually mean you're free to do whatever you please since you're still vulnerable to getting infected -- the effects will be less or non-existent -- and you can still infect others. But that didn't cross their minds.

                                Youngsters on the other hand called it, in turn, a ridiculous move.

                                And so we're going round and round...

                                However, at the moment, the strategy continues to be by age group so we're looking at a summer inoculation.

                                One of my best friends, an ER-nurse was vaccinated last week, and one of my uncles yesterday. Both received their first shot.
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