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    Default Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Mods: If this is over the line, delete as needed. But I thought it might be interesting to Trek fans

    Space Force logo tweeted by Trump bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia



    Myself, I think the copyright holders have a legitimate infringement case here. I wonder how that will play out against the federal govt.
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Life imitating art imitating life imitating...

    I always love seeing the Space Shuttle Enterprise in the opening titles of ST:E... the shuttle named because of the TV series in which it has now become part of the established history of the lineage of vehicles bearing the name Enterprise...

    Ultimately I don't think it would be a good thing for the Star Trek owners to haul the US government over the coals because of this flagrant case of copyright infringement. Rather, I think if anything, they should use it for publicity. We should have an episode of Discovery featuring the Space Corps... which the US gov can heavily subsidise any special needs they may have for "men in boots" or vehicles etc...

    But yes, the President's vision for the future of the military in space has become a laughing stock, with the tree-based camo uniforms, and now this... (even if the camo has perfect logic behind it - cost savings - they should have had a dress uniform that was unveiled as something more "space", and then use the camo as every day wear... or something)
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmichobo View Post
    Life imitating art imitating life imitating...

    I always love seeing the Space Shuttle Enterprise in the opening titles of ST:E... the shuttle named because of the TV series in which it has now become part of the established history of the lineage of vehicles bearing the name Enterprise...
    I've always liked the opening for ST:E. That's what Trek is about, mankind growing, climbing the long ladder.

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmichobo View Post
    Ultimately I don't think it would be a good thing for the Star Trek owners to haul the US government over the coals because of this flagrant case of copyright infringement. Rather, I think if anything, they should use it for publicity. We should have an episode of Discovery featuring the Space Corps... which the US gov can heavily subsidise any special needs they may have for "men in boots" or vehicles etc...
    Oh, I don't think so either, take it as a complement that your property has had such a huge impact on our society. But with the number of greedy lawyers in this place, you *know* this is headed to the courts.

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmichobo View Post
    But yes, the President's vision for the future of the military in space has become a laughing stock, with the tree-based camo uniforms, and now this... (even if the camo has perfect logic behind it - cost savings - they should have had a dress uniform that was unveiled as something more "space", and then use the camo as every day wear... or something)
    We really can't go down that road anymore, might be seen as political.
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Looking at the two logos I can not see a case for copyright infringement.

    The Star Fleet logo is more colourful.
    The Star Fleet logo shows more planets/stars, showing Star Fleet knows what's out there, Space Force has only one (presumably our moon) and knows nothing.
    Star Fleet logo has it's pointy alien pointing at the next destination, the Space Force looks to be going in circles round the Earth.

    Similar... maybe, but I do not think similar enough for copyright infringement.

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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Who Knows might be correct that there are not enough similarities for a copyright infringement case but I am insterested to see whether the IP holders are going to file suit or not.

    In my opinion, they would have a case. The similarities are somewhere noticeable.
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Who Knows might be correct that there are not enough similarities for a copyright infringement case but I am insterested to see whether the IP holders are going to file suit or not.

    In my opinion, they would have a case. The similarities are somewhere noticeable.
    Don't be silly. Of course someone is gonna take this to the courts. Might not even be the copyright holders, but I guarantee that it will end up in some court. We file lawsuits over who can spit on what part of the sidewalk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    Don't be silly. Of course someone is gonna take this to the courts. Might not even be the copyright holders, but I guarantee that it will end up in some court. We file lawsuits over who can spit on what part of the sidewalk.
    Yeah, you're right... there'll probably be consequences no matter what.
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    You can't copyright geometric shapes: concave kite and circular orbit.

    More diffs: space force is 3d and starfleet is flat. Starfleet is bent triangle, space force a dart.

    The US military has had circular logos with a ring of text for decades, so it's Star Trek that copied them!

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    Military forces for centuries have used the ring design, they have all copied each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricG View Post
    You can't copyright geometric shapes: concave kite and circular orbit.
    Part of a logo -- yes, very much so.
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    Coke couldn’t copyright “their” ribbon.
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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Quote Originally Posted by EricG View Post
    You can't copyright geometric shapes: concave kite and circular orbit.

    More diffs: space force is 3d and starfleet is flat. Starfleet is bent triangle, space force a dart.

    The US military has had circular logos with a ring of text for decades, so it's Star Trek that copied them!
    But I think the arrangement of those geometric shapes into a design could be copyrighted.

    Interesting bit of Trivia - In one of the Star Trek Novels, I think it was "Federation", where the bad guy was a meglomaniac by the name of Adrik Thorsen and his "Optimum" group, the shape of the Trek insignia was explained as a graphical display of the energy usage curves involved with FTL travel, something along the lines of energy required rises very quickly as speed increases until speed reaches FTL, and then energy required falls off just as quickly. Or something like that, I haven't read that book in a long time. But it explained the offset of the peaks of the top and bottom arches.
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    In Russian Federation, Copyright infringes YOU

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    Default Re: Space Force logo bears uncanny resemblance to 'Star Trek' insignia

    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    But I think the arrangement of those geometric shapes into a design could be copyrighted.

    Interesting bit of Trivia - In one of the Star Trek Novels, I think it was "Federation", where the bad guy was a meglomaniac by the name of Adrik Thorsen and his "Optimum" group, the shape of the Trek insignia was explained as a graphical display of the energy usage curves involved with FTL travel, something along the lines of energy required rises very quickly as speed increases until speed reaches FTL, and then energy required falls off just as quickly. Or something like that, I haven't read that book in a long time. But it explained the offset of the peaks of the top and bottom arches.
    yes I remember that book as well....somehow kept popping up in both the 23rd and 24th centuries when he was a guy in the mid - late 20th century (his faction likely being one of the ones involved in WW3)...I think he actually survived into the 23rd century with the use of Grigari nanocomponents but apparently by then those were starting to break down...then his personality somehow wound up in an artifact that was obtained by the crew of the Enterprise-D and possessed Data

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