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    Well, I like the plot and the story. I also like the idea that some of the Destiny crew returned trough the Gate and that something terrible happend on and with the ship. I'm assuming Eli would join the new SGC since this idea was explored in "Twin Destinies" right before future Rush changes things. And Atlantis being flown back to Pegasus with Todd and John is also a nice touch.

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    Okay, that part was my ideas after the line.

    Anything can happen as we can easily introduce new galaxies with new stargate systems as long as you can make it
    - keep the basic gate travel rules but also add a new unique element
    - place the creation of this new network on the hypothetical Stargate timeline (like before sending Destiny, 4 races alliance, before the plague, after the return, during the Camelot era, after Ancient ascension, the rise of the Goa'uld, the fall of the Goa'uld)
    - establish a reason why that gate system was not reached before
    - also give a reason why are there humans / Ancients
    - find out the average technological level of the major races
    - find out the gate activity (are they dialing each other, are the gate addresses known, who is in "charge" of knowledge)
    - find out an interesting twist of history with any connection to Earth and Earth based mythology

    So I believe that is how a new expansion should work then every gate network (galaxy) could work as a new campaign/setting like in an RPG. My basic idea was that there was a time when Ancients invited some selected smaller races from the known galaxies/local group to educate them on Earth. It was like a new alliance between advanced and civilized races like the Furling utopia. So this could be the original garden of Eden story. We would learn that the Nox, the Asgard, the Furling have come from other galaxies and they have agreed some smaller races can also build their own network in their own galaxy with the supervision of the Ancients. They decided to spread humanity in their own galaxies as they knew the human evolution will always connect to the Ancients back and forth. The Four Great Race strongly believed that not only the universe is infinite, but also the time as well. So there were theories that some advanced humans can turn into the Ancients one day, who have travelled back in time to restart the cycle. Others believed there is a fraction of Ancients who are "time fugitives", who rather escaped to the future instead of ascension and nobody knows when they will come back. But that is an other story. Then we would learn that Nox was strictly isolationist, who have guarded the law of nature, while the Asgard and the Furling were evolutionist. They believed that every potential planet is a way to experiment on the human race as the Asgard was desperately searching for the link between their anchestors and their current form. The Furling has also believed that the human worlds need guidance, a local leader, so this is how the Goa'uld Sytemlords were created to rule in different solar systems. etc.

    We have also talked about it is hard to talk about the fate Atlantis/SGC/Destiny if none of the sets can be rebuilt. That is the reason the closing/destruction/upgrade of SGC would be still a logical reason and it could continue as the Moon Base.

    The Stargate:Worlds could have been a great game, but the story elements could be still reused or installed into the lore. They have planned so many new and excitin things like Jaffa Guards, Asgard combat drones, new weapons, lots of interesting locations. So even some concept arts are inspirational for me.
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    I see where are you getting at. SGC as the Moon Base would make more sense, since the Stargate:Extinction movie would have picked up with Atlantis parked on the Moon in a way so it could not be spotted by anyone. But the city would have made it back to Pegasus anyway, which would have left an opening for its creation.
    It'd be interesting to see Stargate Command change location.

    Maybe Colonel Carter would finally manage to get Daniel and McKay to create their own Stargate system as a part of the all new type of security for the new base - like coming up with a combination of the Milky Way, Pegasus and Destiny-type of Stargates which would result into a creation of all-new type of Stargates. That'd be a nice addition since the new Gate types would probably feature some wired science which would eliminate the necessity of needing a ZPM to connect to Atlantis and the necessity of an Icarus planet to dial Destiny so SGC would finally be able to constantly re-supply their expeditions with new members on yearly basis.

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    If you remember they wanted to start the Atlantis spinoff after season 7, so the city would have been found on Antarctica. There were even some early concept arts about it. Amongst those plans there were ideas what if it could be located on the Moon in a crater. So this idea must have grabbed the imagination of the writers as they really wanted to introduce the Moon Base, so they have built in this conversation at the last scene of Continuum :

    MITCHELL
    I guess that was worth seeing.

    DANIEL
    What? That's all you have to say?

    MITCHELL
    Well, you guys made it out like it was this big deal. I expected something more spectacular.

    O'NEILL
    Nope. That's pretty much the extraction ceremony, right there. Yup. So, lunch, anyone?

    [No one responds.]

    O'NEILL
    I'm buying.

    MITCHELL
    I'm in.

    CARTER
    Actually, sir, I was hoping that we could go over the plans for the new moon base.

    O'NEILL
    What moon base?

    http://www.stargate-sg1-solutions.co...uum_Transcript

    But I am gusssing they didn't want to move Atlantis there rather building a base in a crater covered with a hatch or a forcefield or completly under the surface. We also know that JM has pitched his Atlantis movie idea about flying back the Atlantis cityship to the Pegasus galaxy (Triangulum galaxy).

    We can still expand the stargatw network into new galaxies as long there is an explanation why the Ancients would share their technology with the local races. You know every new SG show had a new Stargate, so I am guessing they would update it to the local needs. You have seen my brainstorming thread, so there are a few potential versions.

    I have also studied the Local Group, what is basically the closest galaxies around the Milky Way.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Group
    If we want new networks, then probably these galaxies shouls be our playground if we want to build real science into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    They could roughly follow the story ideas of Stargate : Worlds
    https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Stargate_Worlds


    *** Stargate : Worlds SPOILERS ***
    The Stargate Worlds story went through many iterations and redevelopments over the lifespan of the project, but the final story which was being worked on up until the point of the game's cancellation was as follows:

    All events in the story at launch were meant to be inserted into the time gap between the end of Season 8 of SG-1 and the beginning of Season 9. Following the launch of the game additional storylines would have been introduced which were to connect with the Ori plotline and Atlantis plotlines in development at the time.
    There was also a brief plan to connect an in-game Stargate Worlds event with the launch of Stargate Universe. Following the collapse of Worlds, this part was retained as Eli's story.
    The overarching story for the game at launch was centered around the return of Ra and his attempt at reconquering the galaxy with the aid of remaining Goa'uld and Jaffa die-hards and his new army of Straegis - an alien species invented for the game.
    The Straegis were going to be revealed as the Furling species, damaged and enslaved by Ra.
    The "good" player faction was going to be the Stargate Union: an alliance between the SGC, several Free Jaffa tribes, and the Asgard. Asgard player characters would be assisted by sophisticated and customized drone robots for physical and combat tasks.
    As part of the continuing storyline, after the Asgard race became extinct player characters would be able to continue play as holographically projected by their drones.
    The "villain" player faction was going to be the Praxis: an alliance between Ba'al, Queen Anat (a Goa'uld queen invented for the game), Mok'hatan (a disowned daughter of Bra'tac who led her own tribe), and Col. Marsh (leader of OP-CORE, an amalgamation of rogue NID and human military factions).
    The "New Mind Goa'uld" player character race was an invention of the game, Goa'uld birthed by Anat without the complete racial memory of the Goa'uld in an effort to avoid making the same mistakes.
    As part of the game's storyline, Anat was to be assassinated by the player characters and Ba'al driven out of the Praxis.
    In the initial levels, players would play through the formation of the SGU and/or the Praxis and discover the existence of a widespread cult dedicated to Ra's return.
    After tracking down the cult to Ihpet, a fortress world of Ra's, the players would witness his rebirth.
    The next levels would cover holding off Ra's invasion of various worlds and figuring out his master plan. This arc culminated in a battle on Dakara where Ra's forces would use the Ancient device there to bring forth his army of Straegis.
    Fighting against the Straegis would lead players to Agnos, an Atlantis-like Ancient library world intended to serve as the repository of Ancient knowledge when humanity was "ready" and master source of all of the repositories seen in the show. It was also the home of the last human Ancients, of which only two had survived the plague and long time in stasis.
    This is the world seen as part of Prometheus in Stargate Universe.
    As part of the plotline, players would of course need to destroy the intelligence maintaining the world in order to stop Ra and the Straegis.
    Finally players would locate the means to travel to the Furling homeworld and free them from Ra's command. This would pave the way towards defeating Ra finally and lead into the endgame and future content releases.

    Other plotlines which were to be explored in game:
    The formation of the Lucian Alliance.
    The dissolution of the Alliance of Four Races.
    Players were to discover that each of the races had constructed a potential "caretaker" species to carry on existence in the Milky Way after it had gone.
    The Ancients created humanity, obviously.
    The Furling were to have said to create the Goa'uld as their caretaker species.
    The Nox were to be revealed as insisting that none was needed.
    The Asgard were to have created a technological solution called "Solacris" which spectacularly backfired, resulting in the crippling of their race and the creation of the plague which killed all the unascended Ancients, sparking the dissolution of the Alliance. The "Solacris" was to be a key player in the post-Ra content.

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    Some elements of the SG:W storyline could be kept as part of the future of Milky Way. But I believe a new spinoff needs new enemies, new alliances and the whole Goa'uld story is discussed back and forth.

    I would definately introduce a new President, who was hostile to the whole program after the attack In Washington (SGU season 2). So SGC is closed down officially, but unofficially it was used to send criminals / political enemies, so the OP-Core storyline would start.

    The Lucian Alliance would attack the offworld prison world and the ex NID agents would ally with them.
    The role of Anat could be taken over by Athene as she knows a lot about Earth.
    The Jaffa Empire would forge a truce after a horrible civil war between Rebel Jaffa and Loyal Jaffa.
    SGC is destroyed and later it is rebuilt as a Moon base.
    Atlantis has flown back to Pegasus galaxy with Todd and Sheppard.
    Area 51 has developed new type of jumper ships (X305) as the next defense line.
    Eli and a few Destiny survivor have returned through the gate but the don't know what happened. They believe the Eden aliens have helped them. They try to resettle in their civil life, while some of them would join the Homeworld Security on the Moon base to help out the MW conflicts.
    Asgard could ve still alive as their Unending trick was a mass ascension attempt. Anyway the Vanirs would take over their heritage and they would even visit Earth and other ex-Protected Planets for some hidden treasure see Solackris storyline.

    But this is just a start. Okay, we have skipped 10 years, but life hasn't stopped in the galaxy. New trade routes, new agressive empires would rise again.
    Some good ideas here I think.

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    Thanks for the greens. Unfortunately I have seen them as notifications only now. Oops. Happy new year!

    A little off. I was watching a few videos where they were testing the Unreal4 and Unity computer engines:
    https://youtu.be/EEJwBoTr5Fo
    https://youtu.be/rT2Wf8K1Neo
    https://youtu.be/6oo293kIGPQ
    These ones can make such photorealistic environment that I can't wait to see alien landscapes in games and tv shows. I know it is not that simple to insert bluebox shots into such animations, so maybe I am just dreaming how the nextgen SG or any scifi show could look like. I am not a cgi artists, so I know it is challenging to find the right shadows and light resources. Same would happen with real life landscapes too. Just it would be so cool to see "real" alien ecosystems at least in future games as only the fantasy/time/energy are the limits nowadays. The Avatar type digital sets will be slowly a reality in the entertainment industry.

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    I had a silly idea. Roughly 10 years have passed since the Stargate : Universe was cancelled. But also the Wormhole X-treme movie was also done after ten years. So it would be funny to write an SG story where we could reflect on silly conspiracy theories.

    So imagine when the Wormhole X-treme fans ("WOX") make a con where some hardcore fans of Martin's tv show fans would spread gossips how that tv show is based on real events and what if there is really a portal or door to the stars. Then all the fake cover stories, especially the giant Wraith hive ship explosion would be questioned and this movement would grow into a sceptical political party. Obviously the ruling goverment would still deny the truth from the civilans even if the Lucian Alliance or Athene can also support the unrest with fake news and gossips. Now imagine that the goverment would reveal the Stargate Program then the WOX would react. It would have been funny to start Eli as a character on the Universe as well this way. Anyway if we could get a new spinoff with a revealed program then such events could be told how the humans would react to the announcement. Would they kidnap Martin for information? Would they protest in front of the Cheyenne Mountain? Would the next generation of SGC personel make exclusive offworld Instagram collections? Or would the goverment send out some official crew to show the civilians how dangerous is the galaxy and they should give up the pressure on the goverment etc.
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    I was just thinking about them making the Stargate program public in-series. Of course that would have been great from both science and technology standpoints. But what if some of our favorite characters from all three shows have started a love affair/real relationship after their respective mission(s) were done and over with (or they would depart them in order to be together and start a family), like JM/BW/RC obviousely planned? They (the characters) know it's against the rules and if someone is covering for them, then they could be in a real trouble after the program would go public because after the fact, the person (or people) covering for them might not be able to help them anymore.

    The rules would dramativally change and those changes wouldn't just affect them, but anyone else who broke the same rules. Sam/Jack, Teyla/Sheppard, T.J./Young are just a small portion of those cases. They know a lot about the program so I'm imagining that they wouldn't be just left alone in case the pre-publication goverment would fall and the post-publication goverment orders for all of them to be brought in. What if the President would be forced to leave his/her position and a new one would have to be elected and brought into the game? I could see that happening, especially if the majority of other countries (including those overseas in relation to America) would request it or even demand that those poeple would have to be brought in for some bogus reason(s). In that case, our heroes would have to go into hiding just because of the nature of their relations. But even then the life would be highly complicated for them.

    Sure, the next generation of th SGC personel would take over and we would probably have a situation where SGC is taken under the control of a new staff. Even if our heroes would be forgiven for their wrong decisions (both personal and professional), they would no longer have the freedom and probably limited autohority at their disposal to do their work for the SGC. I believe the SG-1 episode where Sam messes with the generators and ends up in a parallel universe, while the other her from that unverse dies, has properly explored that idea. Sam even barely convinces Landry to let her return to her own universe.

    Long story short - my opinion is to have the SG teams not provoke any potential enemies (both accidentally or deliberately) and just focus on space exploration of Milky Way, any Galaxy SG-1's been to (or its individual members), Pegasus and any Galaxy the Destiny crew had been to until SGC comes up with a way to replicate any science discoveries/technology devices which would make the whole publication process a bit easier, but also would make for less panic since Earth would have the resources to defend itself should an enemy attack from space come along.

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    Somehow I have always imagined that Jack has gone retirement, so he can be together with Sam. But no, the writers have moved him to Washington, while Sam's knowledge and experiment is wasted as a captain of an X304. Bad.

    I agree, maybe a new President would completly lock down the SGC. What would happen with diplomacy? What if new enemies show up in the galaxy if more and more races will learn a bigger portion of the gate addresses. And as you have said what about personal level? What if somebody has got an offworld family? Or if the revelation of the program will torn apart families?

    I still believe the Stargate should be about explorations, first contacts, adventrues, some mythology based discoveries, but some civilian events or plots could be still continued on Earth. The classic Russians vs. Americans or Chines vs. Americans is a bit boring too me, so I would like to hear a bit more personal stories how the face of aliens, alien worlds would change our daily life.
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    Jack already has an off-world family that he probably has to take care of. Same with Teyla, the only difference between the two is that Jack is from Earth and Teyla is from Athos. not to mention the two planets are located in two different Galaxies. Teyla is in a better position here since both she and Kennan are from the same planet & Galaxy.

    Making the Stargate program public can actually create more problems than it can solve. Unless the people invovled decide to completely change their lives and move to another planet and/or to another Galaxy. That would probably work best for John and Teyla, but contacting their Atlantis friends would be risky for everyone. Same with Jack and Sam. The writers have complicated their storyline to the fullest, so the only option for them is to do a disappearing act while on a mission if they ever decided to remain together after the SGU stuff. In T.J.'s/Young's case things might have been different in the end since they were stranded on Destiny for God knows how long without being able to even dial Earth or without Earth being able to dial Destiny, so I can see them being together without any problems caused by anyone from above in case T.J.'s ALS got somehow cured on the ship or after all of them returned back home - if they ever did...

    A new Stargate show should be about finding new knowledge, meeting new races, exploring their science and technology, their history, tradition and mythology and replicating anything that is possible in case of a new alien invasion on Earth. So basically, what you said fully applies. That, of course, would make the only safest way to make the SG program a public knowledge: trough bigger and bigger leaks from SG team & expedition members following a very serious crisis and it is more than enough if the crisis features Earth and the SGC in it.
    Maybe classified information gets to some people who actually end up helping the SGC until the crisis is resolved. Then everyone involved with the program finds out that calssified information has been leaking outside SGC trough SG team/expedition members for years, which allows a lot of scientists/IT experts/military personel to help out and provide their assistance in different situations. Soon, the whole thing goes international without the President or the goverment making any official publications about the existance of Stargates or the SGC, which allows for the needed time for everyone on the planet to adopt to the idea that we're not alone in the universe and that real proof exists to back that fact up.

    All of the events in the end result in the most science and tech advanced countries to back up the Stargate cause, which ends in America having to work with other politial parties from all over the World. The World's economy is revitalised thanks to it, which causes many new job opportunities to become available everywhere, which could have a positive effect on our heroes (if they're brought in to help out), at least Earth-wise. In that case, making the SG program public would have no to very little negative effect because everyone would have a safety net. Of course that would present a problem to the less advanced countries that share different beliefs and something negative would definitely happen in that area, but even in reality, in order to gain/have something, you must give up something else. Stargate would be no exception in that regard as well.
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    So usually I don't get involved with these kinds of threads cos I don't see the point in dwelling, but just by chance I saw this in New Posts when I got up and... Well I had some inspiration. This is what I came up with in about five minutes flat. It's not complete and there are some ways the plot comes together that has some gaps but there we go. Call this say the first half of an opening two parter. Or possibly just first quarter of an opening two parter.

    We open on our new main character. I don't have a name for them so let's call them... Hunter. Maybe his callsign.

    So we start with just flashes of memory. Hunter in SGC gear. Flashes of light from the kawoosh and puddle. The sound of the chevrons locking and then cut to black.
    Hunter wakes up and starts his day. He has a wife and a young child who he greets and has breakfast. All pretty mundane. He is an Airforce Officer. A Captain. And you see a lot of military regalia around the house. Through dialogue we can work out that he is a reservist and is on his way for his month's duty. He gets in his car and heads out to report in at his base.

    We see a glimpse of who he is at home and what he is like when he gets to work. He's a good, strong officer who has the respect of his peers. His actual personality I haven't got nailed down but in the grand scheme it doesn't really matter for the purposes of the outline here.

    Then there's an accident. If we want a bit of action it could be while he is flying. There's a burnout in his engine say and his F-16 basically flies apart and he's forced to eject. He lands hard, maybe into the side of a mountain or through some trees as there's a strong wind carrying him and he receives a pretty severe head injury.

    He's out cold and we see more of the Stargate. We see a clearer memory as he's geared up with his unit and at the bottom of the ramp as the Stargate comes to life. We may see a familiar character in his team (Not in the sense of someone in the old show but maybe someone from his base who we saw him interact with). We do also see, Dr. Jackson in the background, nodding for him to go on ahead through the gate, and we see him and his team step through.

    Hunter wakes up. He's in hospital and a nurse checks in on him. Apparently he's been out cold for several days and his wife quickly turns up to do the usual "oh thanks god bit." Hunter however is confused. He can't remember the last several years. He does know his wife, but he can't remember them being married and he doesn't remember their child. It's all very typical and cliche drama up to this point. All the "Your memory might come back eventually" and "Let's just get you home. I promise we'll work this out." etc. He does wonder where they are now though because the last thing he remembered they were living in Colorado. The wife says "oh yeah we moved from there about fives years back" or something along those lines and Hunter nods and just kinda tries to adjust. It seems to affect him a little more than some of the other stuff they've talked about so far though and she asks if that's ok to which he says "Yeah, it's just... I dunno. I was happy there. Can't really imagine why I'd want to leave."

    He gets home and we see that on the whole he's a bit more stiff than he was before. Not just because things are unfamiliar, including his kid, but in the sense that he carries himself far more like he's still full military whereas in the beginning he came across far more casual about his time in the airforce. He is still trying to get back into his life though and we may see a brief moment where he is playing happily with his kid and clearly they still share a bond even if Hunter doesn't remember it.

    The guy we see at the airforce base and in his flashback comes knocking. He's just there to check on how Hunter is doing and they sit down and share a beer. THey're old friends and the wife even says how she's pretty exhausted over catching Hunter up so now it's his buddy's turn. They get left alone and they talk and kid around and when Hunter is sure they're alone he goes "man, why did we leave Colorado? We loved it there." Not saying it out loud but obviously talking about the gate program. His buddy laughs and says "Yeah, right! Come on man. Analysing deep space radar telemetry? Since when was that fun?"
    Hunter is obviously kind of confused and does a double take to make sure his wife hadn't come back inside but they're completely alone. He looks his buddy in the eye and kinda says something, I'm not sure what but his Buddy's response kinda gives him a hint that he should just drop the mention even though he's still confused.

    When he's alone later Hunter waits until he has moment and tries making a call. He gets through to the operator at Cheyenne Mountain and gives his access code and requests to speak to General Carter. But he gets rejected. His code isn't accepted. On the one hand that isn't unexpected given how long it's been so he just is a little annoyed and moves on.

    He does some digging online and finds out that Cheyenne Mountain is now closed down as a base. General Carter is now posted to Washington at the Pentagon and for a moment he kinda is accepting because well if they closed the base and moved the gate then that explains why he's no longer in the program. But something is still gnawing at him. We kinda get the sense that this was something he loved doing. Like Jack he may have a telescope in his back garden and he spends a lot of his time looking up at the stars.

    the next days he goes to DC. He either makes an appointment with or intercepts General Carter and her personal aide on their way into work. Either way he introduces himself and she cuts him off with "Ah yes, Captain Hunter. I heard about you accident. How are you doing?"
    She definitely knows him and he's pretty relieved. "I don't know, Ma'am. I lost the last five years of my life. I guess I'm just trying to piece together the gaps." All in all this seems like our Sam. Reasonable, warm but professional. She shows what seems to be an honest concern for him, but once again she mentions Deep Space Radar Analysis. He kinda ignores it in the conversation he says,
    "I'd just really like to know... What happened to the Stargate? Do you know why I left the program?"
    She blinks and says, "I'm sorry, the what?"
    "Ma'am," he says, "I understand, I'm sure it's still all classified. But I earned my place in the program. It's all I can think about. The last thing I remember before waking up in that hospital bed is stepping through that Gate. I just want to know... something to help me move on."
    Carter bristles and reinstates that she has no idea what he is talking about and brusquely tells him that she has work to do. She then walks off with her aide in tow who takes a quick glance back at Hunter.

    It cuts to night time back at Hunter's family home. He's laying in bed with his wife and hears a noise. He gets up to investigate but she is saying it's probably nothing and should come back to bed. He goes anyway and finds a team of black ops in his home with guns. We see his own skills come out now and he basically hunts them down in the house, arming himself and either gunning down or silently dispatching the rest. He yells for his wife to grab their kid and get dressed but his wife is there already with a gun pointed at him. She says something along the lines of mentioning that she was hoping that they could make it look like he'd died in a break in but she'll settle for being the wife protecting her child from their poor damaged father. Their kid then walks in wondering what all the noise was and Hunter takes the opportunity to knock his wife down, grab the kid and bolt out of the house, taking his car and just driving. He's lost and has no idea where he's going or what to do but he knows he has to get out.

    That's when his car just stops. Stone dead. He gets his gun ready as he hears someone approach the car and he is ready to protect himself and his child. There's a something that gives him pause. A knock on the window. Maybe a voice that calls out not to shoot. "if I wanted you dead I could have just shot you through the door." comes the voice. Or something like that.
    It turns out it's General Carter's aide, who greets him by his rank and apologises for being too late at the house. They urge Hunter to get out of the car and come with them to their truck. He does haven't much choice in the matter as it seems they aren't alone and soon he is in the back of a truck with his kid and a number of other guys who are obviously military in plain clothes.

    The next part gets fuzzy.
    They drive for quite a long time. They may or may not end up using a Asgard Transporter or a set of rings to where they're going next but one way or another they reach a new base. In my mind this is on Earth but if you really REALLY wanted a moon base this would be the moon base.

    Hunter is surprised to find that the base is pretty run down and rag tag but it's clearly still run like a military. He meets up with the apparent leader of the group which is obviously Dr. Jackson who reveals to him that a lot has changed in the time he forgot. Most notably because everyone has seemingly forgotten about or is choosing to cover up the Stargate program ever exists. Somehow (Again not come up with the why yet) this base of Daniel's does have the gate and they are able to still use it without anyone's knowledge. But something happened to the point where all of Earth's ships and colonies and so on were just disbanded seemingly over night. Daniel remembers because he was once ascended (though for the purposes of beginning a new show this would be said straight off the bat) but most other people have no clue. Those who do remember seemingly only do so as dreams or as moments of insight and it took years just for this new group to figure out how to use the gate again. Hunter however, is the first person that they know of who has ever seemingly remembered it all... Though Daniel does wonder about others, and he momentarily takes a moment to remember Jack, who is dead. Again, seemingly over night in some accident or another. Ever since then the World has seemingly been on the down turn. More wars. More diseases. Climate change. Less Freedoms. Fake News. Etc. Etc. It's like the world just forgot what it was working towards one day.
    After this the gate is revealed and it's stated that this shadow group's remit is to keep using the gate and try to figure out what happened on Earth. Figure out if they were attacked and by who. Why? When? And if nothing else, Daniel says "Just to still keep feeling... Human... To explore. To Figure out why we're all here... You know... Meaning of life stuff..."


    That's as far as I'm up to. But the general idea is for the show to kinda have that surreal X-Files like tone that SG-1 had in its NID and Earth based episodes. It's a case of not knowing who to trust and why things are the way they are. There's also a kind of duality as life out in the real world on Earth is kinda bleak and confusing for our characters while then they get to the base and it's an exciting adventure and dangerous but also kind of a relief. Thematically this is a show about conspiracies and why humanity matters even more when you feel all alone in the world. It's definitely a show that spends its fair share of time on Earth but it isn't locked there. These people still use the gate to go out and explore, not just to figure out what might have happened to Earth. A lot of the group are just regular people who just stumbled into this so being on alien planets is just kinda spectacular to them.
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    Hunter is naturally the main character, but I like to think he's possibly not the leader. Daniel obviously takes on the role of that key face from the old shows and is a kind of mentor. His academic side is more heightened and he mainly stays in base to figure stuff out. There'd likely be a commander who would be in charge alongside Daniel too. An ex colonel maybe. And the previously mentioned aide to Carter would be our person on the inside. They work with the Stargate team but we also see what's happening in the Pentagon with Carter who we discover is kind of the main villain, at least at the start. She knows about the Stargate and she knows somehow it's still operating and she needs to stop it. Though it's unclear whether she's under mind control or being coerced or if she's even human. (i don't know either to be honest.)
    Meanwhile a big theme I'd like to keep on with is Hunter and his relationship with his kid. He needs to relearn how to be a dad and suddenly a single one (his wife may be a recurring antagonist as well) and even worse is that his kid basically has to just live in the base. I'm kinda picturing Ben Sisko and his son Jake from DS9. That kind of dynamic but the kid being younger.

    Naturally we'd find out about the Jaffa and Atlantis and the Goa'uld along the way but the point of this open is to create a show which is fresh and contemporary and can ease new viewers into the universe. Hunter and Jackson are kind of our guides while other characters kind of see all this stuff new and fresh. Naturally one of the early assumptions is that somehow Goa'uld or Ori have taken over Earth but as it turns out the rest of the galaxies are seemingly in similar situations to Earth (Though not all and none are quite the same).

    As the show develops we start to pick up on this new villain. Something more vague and less easy to define that the Goa'uld or Ori or even the Ancients. Something very different to what we have seen before is happening. And it's much less a clear villain as it is something surreal and maybe something that I would describe as just a presence. THere's clearly a motive behind it as the story progresses but it's hard to pin down then just finding an enemy to shoot at off world (though there would still be plenty of action, not to worry.)
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    I like your story. It gives me the goose bumps. I'd love if you'd finish it.

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    I have rewatched this scene from BattleStar Galactica :

    Battlestar Galactica | The Tomb Of Athena
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcCXDJf78dM

    It is so funny to see the star constellations on some kind of Stonehenge type buildings which are the same as the glyphs on the Stargate. Somehow I have completly forgotten this scene, but it could give a little chance to play with the SG-BSG crossover ideas.

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    Once I had a weird dream as well. I was watching a dokumentary movie on the television, where David Attenborough was the narrator. But instead of talking about some rare or exotic animals, he was introducing different planets to the viewers with his calmed voice. It was strange.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

    "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

    "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."


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    I was just thinking about what would be a great plot and story for a new SG series the other day. I caught a re-run of an SG-1 episode on the Sci-Fi Channel. It was a season 6 episode where Prometheus is still unfinished and these guys hijack it and demand a guy and the Konrad character released, then Thor shows up at the end who shocks Jack with his huge-ass request for help. Note that as of now, I have still not begun my re-watch of the entire series, I just happened to stumble upon the episode while flipping trough the channels, so this idea is still incomplete.

    Anyway, the story I came up with dives into the overal SG TV cannon, its established plots, sotrylines, mythology and characters from all three shows while also exploring how does the maintaining of the secrecy of the Stargate program start to gain negative effect in family relations and those relations eventually getting trough everyone's skin at the SGC/Homeworld Command/Atlantis/Destiny.

    The story starts off with a young women named Mia joining the military against the will of her own family members. The family has just gotten out of a huge family crisis which featured a lot of secrets and lies between different protions of it (it's a huge family). Mia's family eventually accepts the fact that she is now serving the country, but her brother Mike asks not to get into any top secret military programs (their grandfather also died serving the country, that's why he knows that there are top secret military programs) / que word right there /. Unwillingly, Mia agrees and promisses to everyone that she won't get into trouble. But that's easier said than done. On a mission overseas, Mia and a couple of members of her military branch witness an Ori talking to a Goa'uld about the Wraith and the Ursini being wiped out by Earth's military forces. Mia takes her smartphone out and ends up recording most of the conversation and asks her comerads to keep this a secret upon the two talking sides depart and disappear into thin air. They return to their branch, pretending nothing ever happened. However, upon returning to USA, getting back to normal military life prooves difficult. Two weeks after returning, they are individually visited by Stargate Homeworld officials and asked to come with them.

    4 of the members of Mia's former military branch arrive and find Mia sitting there in an interrogation room. The 5 comrades are re-united and are asked all kinds of questions by Shappard, Colonel Telford, dr. Jackson, dr. McKay, Colonel Carter and dr. Rush. They're told that they know what they witnessed and they even show Mia's recording on one of their laptops. As it turns out, the smartphone Mia was using overseas is a part of getting Earth to fight back against a completely new generation of the Ori, who are lead by somehow a restructured System Lord Ares. The 5 are properly introduced to the Stargate program and are told a horrific truth about what happened 15 years ago when the Destiny crew reached Earth.

    Here's where we are presented by a long flashback of what happened. An SG expedition, made of SG personel members that used to be a part of their own SG teams in Milky Way, Pegasus and Destiny was sent on a mission to retreive an important piece of technology trough the Stargate. They soon fell into an ambush, but managed to find their way out. Well, at least that's how things looked to them. In reality, the Ori used their own version of the Replicators mind-reading technology/abilities to change the true outcome in their minds. Before anyone could figure out what was going on, a large group of Ori Priors and brainwashed Jaffa were already running all around Earth trying to fit into Earth's society in order to study it. While the manipulated SG personell members eventually returned to normal, the damage was already done. Back to the present, it's the task of Stargate Homeworld to track down the emenies, capture them and then, deal with them accordingly. That's the reason Shappard, Colonel Telford, dr. Jackson, dr. McKay, Colonel Carter (recently promoted to General) and dr. Rush were summoned - to do their final mission and that's to put together a new SG team called SG-Earth (SG-E) in order to solve this problem.

    Mia asks General Carter why don't they send one of their own men to do the job, and she tells her that the only individual who could do this job has only recently passed away following a long illness (possibly hinting she's talking about General O'Neill). Mia's comrads Sky, Kyle, Jenny and Thea ask why them and they're told that the military has kept a close eye on them, their intelligence quotients are outstanding, that they're all super efficient in doing their daily military tasks - including oversea missions and that they've been chosen because some of their individual characteristis have many simillarities to those who brought them to the same interrogation room. The 5 members are given a couple of days to think about it. They are all released upon signing some paperwork.

    While the 4 agree to become a part of something bigger, Mia has trouble deciding wather she's up for it or not. She is torn between keeping the promise she gave to Mike and serving the country. However, she soon finds out that even with her paycheck, her entire family is about to loose everything because of financial issues. Their father and her borther took some bank credits to start their own businesses and to purchase an appartment/house that thay could rent, however, their plans fell apart because of a misunderstanding between the father and the son. 5 days later, Mia walks into Carter's office and says to her: "Where do I sign up for this?". General Carter summons her comrads who are already in their SG uniforms and one of the women from her group tells her she's been given the position of their team leader. The SG-E team deprts onto their first mission and that's to track down the tech which allowed the Ori to mess with minds of the Stargate Homeworld's SG members. Carter closes the door while the team is leaving and someone emerges from a secret room behind Carter's office, who gives her a note with a question written on it - and she answers positively.

    Meanwhile, a known SG scientist from the past (possibly someone that has worked with ehtier of the established SG scientist characters off-screen) is studying a completely new scientific-tech discovery which may end up providing the SG-E team with some important information. The SG-E team discoveres that something unusual is taking place somewhere in Europe - some farmers are successfully reproducing Ancient technology pieces that not even the former SGC could replicate! Mia contacts the Hammond and they're given the order to re-take as much reproduced Ancient tech as humanly possible and to discover how are the farmers even managing to re-produce the said tech.

    Carter is seen leaving to somewhere in the sunset in her personal car that's full of bags - obviosuly never to be seen again... and the sign on her back of her car clearly reads "Until next time...". Back at Mia's home, Mike enters his room and finds his grandmother waiting for him. They ask him what's going on and he replies: "It has begun. Get ready!". After a while, she leaves to bed without actually knowing anything about what's going on with her granddaughter. He proceeds to his desk, opens a drawer and pulls out an upgraded version of a Zat gun, saying that everyone chooses their own destiny. A couple of days later, he secretly watches the recording of Mia and her comrades coming back trough the Stargate from a mission... with yet another unusual discovery in their possesion which is also confirmed to have a connection with what happened 15 years ago...

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    That's all I got for now. It's late where I live, so I'll continue this tomorrow.

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    More ideas.

    The "completely new scientific-tech discovery" could be either a combination of the Asgard time dialtion field and the Replicator's ability to read people's minds (which would easily explain how the SG mission ended so horribly) or a combination of the Asgard time dilation field and some Ori-based technology, which could also explain how the SG mission ended horribly, but then it would also add more to the storyline and the SG mythology altogether by combining science and tech of the Asgard, Replicators, the Ori and SG-1's original former enemies, which would also explain how Ares got revived (or orginically remade rather than him just being a Replicator). This would also end up in the SG-E team to deal with a completely new, unknown enemy who uses a combination of science and technologies of deceased Earth's allies, previousely defeated Earth's enemies in SG-1 and previousely defeated Earth's enemies from SG-1 and Atlantis. Maybe Wraith and Ursini tech is brought into the picture later as the series goes on.

    But even with knowing all of that, the SG-E team, including the Stargate Homeworld's staff is seriouselly hit with the sudden disappereance of individuals who ended up recruiting them to lead this fight. Here's where the series could go for a darker tone, but still tell stories with an SG-1/SGA style. Mia and her comrads soon become great friends, however, for real-life personal needs they have no time or space since the fact is that they are on their own from now on. However, with Mia's organization skills, the team and the entire SGH staff get their game together and things soon start to unravel once Kyle and Thea manage to get someone from the good old SGC days to help them out from the shadows. Eventually, this results in the reveling of all lies and deceptions within the SGC and the goverment around the Stargate program itself. Even more problems emerge when Mia's brother is released to be a double agent working for the currupt NID officials, but also secretly protecting his own sister's life and the life of her friends. Which proves to be difficult since their grandmother was also a corrupt politician, including a couple of other members from their family, whose roots lead to the early days of the now defeated Lucian Alliance.

    As for the unusual disovery - it's none other than a Galaxy map of a Galaxy that's far, far away but which may have a Stargate-based time travel machine lying on one of its planets. The problem is - the map doesn't say which Galaxy or how to get there.

    Sky is a scientist but also a military officer with the best grades everywehre and the highest recommendations next to Mia's.
    Kyle is a former martial artist, who was forced by someone to become a soldier for life.
    Jenny and Thea are young women who are naughty and joined the military just for fun, but come to their families and their friend's aid whenever necessary. However, the day Mia recorded the conversation between the Ori Prior and Ares changed their lives forever and they have both promissed themselves that they would protect all life on Earth, whatever it takes. Jenny's more of a straight-forward type of person, while Thea is more of a closed book at the beginning, but opnes up as the series progresses.

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    That's all I've got for now. Basically, the old characters just make some quick cameos and then, they're out of the picture. The SG-E team character basically take over the entire show as they find themselves in re-connecting Earth with its now-former allies. So there you go: action, adventure, comedy, darker tone, family relations and a handful of lies, deceptions and mysteries.
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