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    Default X Men Dark Phoenix



    There may be a thread already for this but looked and couldnt find one.

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    X-Men: Last Bland
    "Not every movie is for you. Not every TV show is for you. Not every song is for you. Find the things you like, and like them. Go nuts liking them. A thing ISN’T for you? Cool. Go find something you like. That’s it. That’s as complicated as it should be." -- David Blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    X-Men: Last Bland
    Anything is better than Last Stand and Wolverine Origins.
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    Seem so interesting tho, can't wait. This remind me so much about Jane from the very first movie.

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    I've always wanted to see the Jean Grey story given more focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    Anything is better than Last Stand and Wolverine Origins.
    You would think...but gods, this looks bad.
    "Not every movie is for you. Not every TV show is for you. Not every song is for you. Find the things you like, and like them. Go nuts liking them. A thing ISN’T for you? Cool. Go find something you like. That’s it. That’s as complicated as it should be." -- David Blue

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    I have lost all my expectations after the Apocalypse movie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    I have lost all my expectations after the Apocalypse movie...
    See other than first class Apocaypse may be my second favourite of all the X-men films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    See other than first class Apocaypse may be my second favourite of all the X-men films.
    Wow. Mate, we agree on lots of things on this forum, so this is the first time I feel like I don't even know you
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    See other than first class Apocaypse may be my second favourite of all the X-men films.
    *twitch*

    DOFP?! Easily the best movie out of them all I think of the newer ones.

    Apocalypse certainly looked good but they wasted both the character and Oscar Isaac as an actor. And the "newer" mutants in that movie were all kind of boring. Jubilee might as well have been fully cut.

    The trailer for this looks bad...Whoever decided to hire the writer of X3 to try Dark Phoenix story again, but this time as a director, needs to be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Chris View Post
    *twitch*

    DOFP?! Easily the best movie out of them all I think of the newer ones.
    Okay, if we're going to go there....IMO:

    Great: X-Men, X2, Logan
    Good: First Class, Days of Future Past, Deadpool
    Okay: The Wolverine, Deadpool 2
    Burn all copies and pretend they never happened: Last Stand, Origins, Apocalypse



    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Chris View Post
    Whoever decided to hire the writer of X3 to try Dark Phoenix story again, but this time as a director, needs to be fired.
    My feelings on Simon Kinberg are a bit of a mixed bag, tbh. I love what he's contributed to Star Wars (co-creator of Rebels, various work on TFA and Rogue One), and by all evidence it seems he's a really good producer (First Class, Elysium, Chappie, The Martian, Deadpool, Logan), but he has written some real stinker movies (Mr & Mrs Smith, Jumper, Josh Trank's Fantastic Four).

    I also think it's a little bit insane to give a first-time director the keys to the final film in a series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Wow. Mate, we agree on lots of things on this forum, so this is the first time I feel like I don't even know you
    Well now I just feel bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Chris View Post
    *twitch*

    DOFP?! Easily the best movie out of them all I think of the newer ones.

    Apocalypse certainly looked good but they wasted both the character and Oscar Isaac as an actor. And the "newer" mutants in that movie were all kind of boring. Jubilee might as well have been fully cut.

    The trailer for this looks bad...Whoever decided to hire the writer of X3 to try Dark Phoenix story again, but this time as a director, needs to be fired.
    I don’t entirely disagree and for me DOFP is a close third. But I think that regardless of all its flaws Apocalypse beats it because it just really captured the feeling I got from watching the old 90’s cartoon show. It’s the same reason why I like Batman v Superman and Justice League. Because they aren’t great movies but they give me that vibe of being a kid again and watching the cartoons all over again. It was also an ensemble piece which I much prefer over another round of the Wolverine Saga.

    I fear they may have failed a bit for Phoenix, but I am at least really looking forward to seeing more of Mcavoy and Fassbender again who perfectly capture a more complicated relationship between Xavier and Magneto then Stewart and McKellan were allowed to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Okay, if we're going to go there....IMO:

    Great: X-Men, X2, Logan
    Good: First Class, Days of Future Past, Deadpool
    Okay: The Wolverine, Deadpool 2
    Burn all copies and pretend they never happened: Last Stand, Origins, Apocalypse

    Well this is blatantly all wrong.

    Great: X2, Logan, Deadpool
    Good: X-Men, First Class, Apocalypse, Days of Future Past, Deadpool 2
    Okay: Wolverine
    Burn: Last Stand, Origins.

    At least we’re on the same page on the other two worst movies.

    Although the first X-Men I would just class as Ok but appreciate that it is very important in terms of the growth of the genre and we probably wouldn’t have the MCU without it and Spiderman so it gets upgraded.

    I should also clarify that I consider X2 and Logan great films but they aren’t my favourites. They’re great pieces of cinema making... But I just don’t get much of an emotional reaction from them. I didn’t know we were including the Deadpools into the mix, in which case both the first and second one would be placed above any of the X-men films.
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    Well every time when a new X-Men movie is coming out, I just have hope. The Dark Phoenix storyline is the first of the X-Men comics I read. So I was annoyed at The Last Stand and it's lame attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-90_177 View Post
    It’s the same reason why I like Batman v Superman and Justice League.





    Quote Originally Posted by Angela V View Post
    Well every time when a new X-Men movie is coming out, I just have hope. The Dark Phoenix storyline is the first of the X-Men comics I read. So I was annoyed at The Last Stand and it's lame attempt.
    From where I sit, the only place to have gotten it right was the awesome 90s X-Men cartoon on FOX. That show got so much right, and I have no idea why the filmmakers in this franchise weren't doing more to emulate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post






    From where I sit, the only place to have gotten it right was the awesome 90s X-Men cartoon on FOX. That show got so much right, and I have no idea why the filmmakers in this franchise weren't doing more to emulate it.
    Agreed... again...
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    As a rule, I completely disregard trailers.

    The 90s X-Men was my childhood. Those were good times. Except S5. We don't talk about S5
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    THERE! WERE! FOUR! SEASONS!

    Seriously though...if you watch them in production order, which makes the Beyond Good and Evil quadrilogy the finale, it works terrifically. Anything past that finale (which is the unnecessary extra episodes pickup) feels tacked on and unnecessary.

    I don't know why these movies are having such a hard time with the Phoenix story. Grab the alien thing by the horns, or don't bother doing it at all. Hire an actress who has at least as much charisma as a sack of potatoes to play Jean Grey (talking both Janssen and Turner, here), or it's going to fall on its face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    As a rule, I completely disregard trailers.

    The 90s X-Men was my childhood. Those were good times. Except S5. We don't talk about S5
    Oh is that like the last episode of Enterprise? Or past season 3 of Silders?
    I agree. Though I made the 90s X-Men my kid's childhood. They didn't want to read my comics so I was like, next BEST thing.
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    So? Has anyone seen it? The first Hungarian reviews convinced me that this movie is garbage and one of the worst of the whole X-Men franchise.
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    I have not, but the reviews coming in are universally pretty bad. Even word-of-mouth buzz I've been hearing from other people is pretty much peaking at 'it's not as bad as that, but it still wasn't good.'
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