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    Teams are for socialists?

    Either way, let's not derail this thread with that stuff. The mods leave us alone there, I doubt they will be so charitable here.

    3 eps in, I'm loving Crisis. it has some lumps and bumps, but you get that when you have multiple episodes to tell your story, but on the whole it is great.
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    I said earlier that I was cautious because of the hype but so far it's beating Crisis on Earth X which I thought was Arrowverse best crossover. Until now unless the conclusion is terrible
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    I said earlier that I was cautious because of the hype but so far it's beating Crisis on Earth X which I thought was Arrowverse best crossover. Until now unless the conclusion is terrible
    I think we will be fine
    It's all about the story, and if the story works?
    It works.
    A giant furry saved the legends of tomorrow, and in absence of knowledge, it would seem stupid.
    But it works.
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    I think the budget is the biggest problem. To much standing around doing nothing. To many stories that leads nowhere.

    Bruce wayne was the best part so far.

    Anyone else notice that a version of Black Lightning story is also happening on Earth 1, make you wonder why none of our heroes have intervene or why we haven't heard of the Markovia.

    There have been far less show in each crisis so far than any of the other crossovers, none of the episodes so far have felt like you needed to watch supergirl or batwoman or arrow to understand what going on.

    The only one that buck the trend was Black Lightning, where you did need to know some of the back story.

    I do keep on laughing at them themselves mentioning cross over.

    Would love to see more of Constantine and Lucifer in action and their back story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
    KITT does not have the firebird decals.
    All I was saying is that it's not called a "trans am" by the makers of the car.

    Why do you hate teams so much?
    The "screaming chicken" hood decal as shown in "Smoky and the Bandit" (2nd generation of the model) was not used in the 3rd generation of the model line, which launched in 1982. That does not mean the Trans Am options/powerplant package was not available.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontia...rd_generation)

    The 3rd Generation of Firebirds consisted of three models: Firebird, Firebird S/E, and Firebird Trans Am. The Firebird was the base model, equivalent to the Camaro Sport Coupe; the Firebird S/E was the luxury version; and the Trans Am, the high-performance version.
    As far as teams go, there is nothing wrong with them in the proper environment. (With the exception of the cheating New England Patriots, they should be banned from the the universe, multiverse or any-verse.)

    But in superhero stories, I don't think it's appropriate. First, only the hero has super abilities, kinda putting him in a class by himself. A mere mortal group might end up dead, or worse, the hero has to spend effort protecting them, rather than fighting the bad guy. A natural consequence of this was that they worked alone, mostly. There were some situations where lone heroes banded together, such as Justice League of America, Superfriends and so forth, but even those hero's own shows had the working alone, or nearly so. Batman, who had Alfred in the batcave, Superman had no one who knew his ID, his human cohorts didn't go into battle all that much.

    Compare to the arrowverse on CW. On Supergirl, they have the DEO, which seems to be a large social club that welcomes anyone, even the like of Lena Luthor. And no one cares about their secret identities being revealed (really, in light of how many people know SG's identity, this year's Lena/Kara hissy fit doesn't seem to fit. It's not such a big secret.)

    Another aspect is the sheer number of folks with super powers in the arrowverse. In classic hero shows, super abilities were very rare, usually one of a kind. In CW's world, you can't turn around without tripping over one of them.

    It's a matter of preference; teams are fine for things like team sports. But the heroes ought to work alone.
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    This may be obvious, I don't know enough about the overall arrowverse franchise, but I get the sense they are just going to use this a jackknife, whittling away the multitude of universes, reducing it to a more manageable single universe.

    And having seen thru part 3,
    Spoiler:
    I'm thinking that since Legends is going to be wrapping this up, and that is a time travel show... they're just going to roll the clock back.
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    I am loving it. I really enjoyed the first episode's tributes to Oliver. During Elseworlds I got the sense they were kicking him down, to the point where he feels Barry and Kara are the better heroes the world needs.

    But that episode helped show the impact his journey has had and it effectively serves as a nod to Arrow and how it spinoff this amazing universe of shows and characters.

    I liked the multiverse exploration in episode 2, but I wanted to see more interactions:

    Spoiler:
    Lois (Smallville) and Kara, all three Supermen together, and at least one of the Supermen with Kate and Kara to meet Conroy's Batman.


    It felt a little constrained to me.

    Episode 3 was fun, but I HATE that:

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    It just felt like such a cop-out that they switched Barry with another speedster.


    It just feels like they are pulling their punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
    A giant furry saved the legends of tomorrow, and in absence of knowledge, it would seem stupid.
    But it works.
    No, even as a regular viewer of LoT, it was still stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    No, even as a regular viewer of LoT, it was still stupid
    But so much fun. And, so I'm told, an awesome episode to watch when high.
    Please do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.

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    Spoilers for part 4

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    Lex Luthor is just too damn much. I hope they don't overuse him, he felt a bit over used during Crisis. How did he give himself powers when all we saw him do was scratch out Superman and write-in his own name?

    I like the meta-narrative of Arrow fighting the Anti-Monitor and telling him he failed this universe

    I am very sad that Supergirl didn't get a chance to react to the uses of Oliver's choice, only Barry did.


    Spoilers for part 5

    Spoiler:

    I know they didn't have time to show all the universes, but I have to imagine that every universe we saw get destroyed is back in some manner. But what happened to the original Earth-2? Harry and Jesse Wells were central characters to The Flash, there has to be some investigation or grief on that show to address it.

    I am disappointed that no one called out The Flash show's declaration that there were only 52 universes, Crisis has shown that before Crisis and after, there are more than 52 universes.

    I LOVED seeing Sara Diggle back! And Lyla! Surprised Diggle didn't mention being unable to find Mia, Conner, or William.

    Wished Barry and Ollie could have shared more about having an adult daughter from the future being in the present. I was looking forward to Barry reacting to Mia, but I didn't get that and now it's gone.

    So glad to see Jefferson interacting with other supers. My favorite line is from Part 3: "The Superman thing is real?!".

    Very excited to see what changes are coming. I hope the writers don't fail us.

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