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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    I completely agree with you on #1 and #2, but for #3, I'd add that Torri's and Paul's characters were basically the foundation of the show. Without them, the show just wasn't the same and it became something that it wasn't. It fell apart completely. The "Ghosts in the Machine" episode was the final nail in the coffin for SGA. Also, I'd say that not sufficient episodes dealt with the exploration of the city itself, the history of the Ancients seen in "Before I Sleep" (assuming here there were various groups of Ancients all across the universe) which lead to the lack of the actual mythology that actually resolved around the city and the Pegasus Galaxy themselves, as well as the possible plots where certain characters could be connected to the city more than they can think (Teyla, Ronnon, Wier and maybe Ford). Some missed opportunities for great storylines that could enable for at least 5 more seasons for Atlantis.

    SGA had a great set of cast members, but TPTB obviously didn't know what to write for their characters, i.e. for the characters they developed. But that's probably MGM and Syfy to blame for, since they wanted TPTB to run TWO shows at once, thus preventing them to really & completely focus on the series since they had to still run SG-1 AND give it the "main show" treatment. SGA was always going to be a side-show, the #2 show, even if it got the chance to run for a couple of more seasons. I mean, even SGU got MORE attention by its creators and was treated BETTER and more seriously since they made the show resolve around the characters.

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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mnikolic View Post
    SGA had a great set of cast members, but TPTB obviously didn't know what to write for their characters, i.e. for the characters they developed. But that's probably MGM and Syfy to blame for, since they wanted TPTB to run TWO shows at once, thus preventing them to really & completely focus on the series since they had to still run SG-1 AND give it the "main show" treatment. SGA was always going to be a side-show, the #2 show, even if it got the chance to run for a couple of more seasons. I mean, even SGU got MORE attention by its creators and was treated BETTER and more seriously since they made the show resolve around the characters.
    Could have hired new writers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Could have hired new writers...
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    Writers really don't cost all that much.
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    It compounds more than you think. Adding more writers means it would have to be taken out from something else in the budget
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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    It seems that when the cloned Beckett appears in episodes no one relates to the fact that this person is not the real Carson Beckett. But surely the feelings of Atlantis folks is that as much as they feel he is "their" Carson Beckett, the fact is he isn't at all. Yet this ambiguity never seems to come through in any episodes.

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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    A few people mentioned sex appeal coming into play. I actually though (and still think) Paul was sexier than Jason Momoa or even Joe Flanigan. I personally never saw the appeal of Jason or his character Ronon. At least Paul’s Dr. Beckett was warm and personable. But, then, even now that he’s Aquaman, Momoa’s not really my type.

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    A few people mentioned sex appeal coming into play. I actually though (and still think) Paul was sexier than Jason Momoa or even Joe Flanigan. I personally never saw the appeal of Jason or his character Ronon. At least Paul’s Dr. Beckett was warm and personable. But, then, even now that he’s Aquaman, Momoa’s not really my type.
    As you demonstrate, such "appeal" is highly dependent on the person taking it all in.

    No matter what PTB might think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    As you demonstrate, such "appeal" is highly dependent on the person taking it all in.

    No matter what PTB might think.
    Hell if I was ever in the same room as Momoa I’d probably giggle like a school girl and wanna touch his arms... and I’m straight.
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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    I remember I was so happy when Carson became a regular character in season 2. And then the next season they kill him off? He was my favorite male character (along with McKay). My favorite female character was Weir. The whole series changed, it wasn't the same after they were gone. It became even more annoying when Beckett's replacement became romantically involved with my remaining favorite.

    As for Ronon, I have never understood his appeal, either.

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    Default Re: Why was Paul McGillion written out of Atlantis?

    Agreed. Strangely I also feel like the first 2 seasons of Atlantis were its best, especially with Ford and Beckett, Weir, etc.

    I'd take Ford over Ronon, but Momoa's character grew on me so I differ on that point.
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