I don't understand the motivation to write him out of the show. He was an integral and at least one could say a more productive part of the show than good old Ronon Dex, who basically just stands around. What exactly happened, and how did Paul McGillion feel about it?
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I thought it was to "shake things up" and then diminished that shake by bringing him back.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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We will never know the whole truth what happened behind the closed doors. Maybe he wanted a carrier in Hollywood or to do a different bigger project what needed more free time, or some family related issues, maybe he had an arguement with the staff, or he demanded more salary from the producers, or they just simply swinged the death lottery about the main cast and he lost it. It doesn't matter now as 10+ years have passed."I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."
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I could be misremembering, but I thought it was down to money. Heading into season 4, at the direction of Seefee, they were exercising their contract rights with Amanda Tapping to bring her onto the Atlantis cast. Meaning, at the time of Amanda's Atlantis debut, she was an 'employee' in her 11th year of seniority and salary. So Torri Higginson and Paul McGillion were dumped to make room in the budget."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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It is sad, but probably you are right about it...."I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."
"Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."
"Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."
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Originally posted by Davey View PostThen how did they manage to bring back Carson Beckett as a clone (which I haven't watched yet)???
Originally posted by Davey View PostWith all due respect to Jason Mamoa, why was Paul sacrificed with Torrie for Amanda's benefit while Ronon Dex just continued hanging around with no specific role except occasionally fighting???"A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Yeah what Digi said. There was a particular sex appeal about him. I mean I'm not Gay... but with Jason Momoa I'd have to take a moment to think.Please do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.
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Teyla was the drool-object for the straight males and gay females, and bi-all, and Ronon was the drool-object for the straight females, the gay males and bi-all (and apparently some straight males).
A popular misconception in TV-world is that some characters are only interesting if they are sexy enough. Content doesn't matter. All they have to do is stand around and look hot.
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I think this is all rather sad. In the first instance to ruin the quality of a show with vain hopes of letting it dance along simply because of a budget consideration in relation to a single actor (Amanda). It's as if the powers that be didn't really care about the success of SGA per se, they just wanted to hobble along with their commitments all set up, both contractual and budgetary. Why did they make this arrangement with Amanda in the first place?? I must say that Teyla contributed a lot more substance to the show that Ronon. I would have thought they would have dumped Ronon instead of Torrie and Paul. Would anyone in the audience have cared?? After all, the show worked fine before he arrived. So then they turn around on a budgetary dime and bring back McGillion. It's all rather pathetic and destroys the creativity of the creators of Stargate. But I guess it tells us something about the real world outside of the BBC, CBC, and PBS.
And yes, I do understand the perceived need for sex appeal to keep people watching the show, even if they don't really care about the show stories, but simply want to watch a particular actor like Mamoa or anyone else. I guess Amanda, Flanagan and others weren't good enough.
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Originally posted by Davey View PostI think this is all rather sad. In the first instance to ruin the quality of a show with vain hopes of letting it dance along simply because of a budget consideration in relation to a single actor (Amanda). It's as if the powers that be didn't really care about the success of SGA per se, they just wanted to hobble along with their commitments all set up, both contractual and budgetary. Why did they make this arrangement with Amanda in the first place?? I must say that Teyla contributed a lot more substance to the show that Ronon. I would have thought they would have dumped Ronon instead of Torrie and Paul. Would anyone in the audience have cared?? After all, the show worked fine before he arrived. So then they turn around on a budgetary dime and bring back McGillion. It's all rather pathetic and destroys the creativity of the creators of Stargate. But I guess it tells us something about the real world outside of the BBC, CBC, and PBS.
And yes, I do understand the perceived need for sex appeal to keep people watching the show, even if they don't really care about the show stories, but simply want to watch a particular actor like Mamoa or anyone else. I guess Amanda, Flanagan and others weren't good enough.Please do me a huge favour and help me be with the love of my life.
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Originally posted by Davey View PostIt's as if the powers that be didn't really care about the success of SGA per se, they just wanted to hobble along with their commitments all set up, both contractual and budgetary. Why did they make this arrangement with Amanda in the first place??
As much as we like to think of our favourite shows as creative, story-driven ventures...they're not. At all. Every movie and TV show is a cutthroat business arrangement, and that's the context we need to view these situations in.
Think of it as a business workplace. You're Joe Mallozzi, manager of the SGA Department of Sci Fi Channel Inc, and the Director of your division calls you in for a meeting. He sits you down and tells you you're doing great work, but he has an employee he's transferring from a different department that you now need to work with and accommodate within your budget. This isn't personal, it isn't a debate, and you don't get a say in the decision. The boss gave you your orders, you just have to make it work.Last edited by DigiFluid; 25 October 2018, 03:57 PM."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Originally posted by DigiFluid View PostAnd when the network gives you, the showrunners, an order, you don't get to say no.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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