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    #16
    Originally posted by Gregatrongate1984 View Post
    In the mythos the only million or millions of yrs old beings referred that lived on earth were the ancients not in real life like we know all the animals that lived during that time were mostly mammals.
    The ancients didn't evolve on Earth though, they came some 60 million years ago. If we take this to be exact, then they were 6 million years late for the Cretaceous and so they missed the Dinosaur extinction by a wide margin. I also think they would've stopped the extinction event since it would be inconvenient to inhabit a planet covered in thick dust clouds and whatnot.

    So no, i think it's clear that the history of the earth is 99% the same as in real life, the only difference being that Atlantis arrived on earth at some point and that the ancients performed experiments on local life to recreate their own race (presumably to study Ascension). After all, between 5 and 10 million years ago they left, which is roughly the period in which humanity was an ape-like hominid in africa.

    Though, if the Ancients wanted to, they could just genetically create something like a T-rex.

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      #17
      Originally posted by WraithTech View Post
      The Wraith language is a derivative of Ancient. I always wondered if the Iratus bugs themselves were engineered by the Ancients, as the Ancients were studying an energy being in "Hide and Seek." I hadn't thought about the bugs capturing Ancients in turn.
      Actually you are half right in (possibly) canon timeline. In the SGA Legacy novels (canon?), the theory of origin of Wraith was changed to from natural evolution to engineered from the bugs. In the novel, Dr Beckett said the time for evolution is too short, hence he changed his theory.
      As the story progressed, it is revealed that some Ancient, in experimenting with alternate forms of Ascension, tested cross DNA-engineering on humans with Iratus bug, resulting in the batches of Wraith. The Ancients tried to killed them and history repeats itself later with the Replicators. Surviving Wraith outlawed their origin/history, develop deep hatred for the Ancients and we continue until today.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Supergater View Post
        Actually you are half right in (possibly) canon timeline. In the SGA Legacy novels (canon?),
        I don't consider any of the tie-ins to be canon and will settle for speculation. The books can't even get the color of Wraith blood correct.

        Speaking of the books, by coincidence, one of them mentions the M1M-316 dinos: "An abandoned Ancient lab was eventually discovered on this moon along with various plant life. Dinosaurs weren't the only creatures there and Dr. Geisler known that the creatures are all transplanted from Earth and were indicative of an Ancient presence in the Pegasus Galaxy millions of years before Atlantis traveled there. It was later determined that the Ancients had done so to study telepathy and empathy genes in the dinosaurs as a way to Ascension but abandoned the experiment." (I present this wiki text as a theory and not as canon)
        http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/M1M-316
        Last edited by WraithTech; 18 March 2018, 10:37 AM.

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          #19
          If we did start incorporating the novels into the main stargate universe, then they were doing stuff with Pegasus and dinosaurs from earth starting 145 million or more years ago (as of 2007) and would have been in the milky way already, with knowledge of Earth (before they settled there) some time before Pangaea broke apart around 200 million years ago (as of 2004)

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            #20
            Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago. According to "Frozen," the original Earth Stargate is approximately 50 million years old. Written out on a website like this, it doesn't seem like much, but 15 million years is a long damned time. Arguably the oldest known city in human history is Jericho, dating back 11,000 years to 9000 BC. That 11,000 years of known human history makes up a whopping 0.07% of 15 million.

            There's just no reason to believe that (Earth) dinosaurs have any impact on, or fit into in any way, the Stargate chronology as we know it.
            "A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life

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              #21
              Originally posted by DigiFluid View Post
              Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago. According to "Frozen," the original Earth Stargate is approximately 50 million years old.
              To be fair, while the DHD's power source was dated to "as much as 50 million years old," it's quite possible that represents, not when the Ancients came to Earth, but when they started updating their gate system. Explaining the SGU gates in relation to the information from "Frozen" can be done in one of two ways. The first is that the gates seen in SGU were intentionally designed to be more primitive than the first gates used in the Milky Way. A need for them to be built by machines using found resources would explain their fragility and a desire to keep the gates from being used by natives in other galaxies would explain why they lack DHDs. That they lack DHDs, meanwhile, could be the reason for their limited range per an obscure reference from Sg-1. The second explanation is that those gates were regularly in use in the Milky Way before technological advancements allowed them to create the current model and, at that point, they went around replacing existing gates.

              If that is the case then it's impossible to know how long they had been on Earth prior to that 50 million mark. It's unlikely that they were around during the time of dinosaurs only because detecting and deflecting large asteroids would have been child's play for them, so it makes no sense that the impact would have happened while they inhabited Earth unless it was intentional.
              Last edited by Xaeden; 22 April 2018, 10:18 AM.

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