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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    Why's it so hard to believe they actually faced legality or licensing issues?
    Because that holds no water for Stargate Origins, the Dial Home interviews, the behind-the-scenes stuff and the mission files.
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    Default Re: Stargate Origins: Feature Cut

    I nearly jumped on subscribing very early on -then, had a tinge of concern and held back. Glad I did.
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    I just skipped my way through the entire feature cut -- good quality and subtitles for when they are speaking Egyptian -- 1080p.

    I'm not gonna say where I found it, because that's not allowed here but I'm not sorry.

    When the DVD is released -- probably never -- I might buy it but it should have plenty of extras to make it worthwhile. And audio commentaries by the main cast -- and definitely Aylam Orian. He's a good egg.
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    I'm new and my comments were in a review queue so I'm not sure anyone saw them. I'm also curious if the 'feature cut' had anything addition not in the individual episodes? ?
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    Hey hey. I'm new here but had to join after finding out about Origins. I only just found out. Don't know how I missed that news but I guess I've been unplugged from SG for awhile too long I suppose.

    I was super excited at first but the reviews I've read don't sound very promising. But the All-Access might still be worth it for all the other shows and episodes. Do you guys think it's worth it? Is watching it on iTunes with that digital code any better than just watching the single episodes? Thank you!

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    Default Re: Stargate Origins: Feature Cut

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Because that holds no water for Stargate Origins, the Dial Home interviews, the behind-the-scenes stuff and the mission files.
    All of which were a part of All-Access with everything else, not as their own separate bundles. I wish they'd have done one if only so I didn't have to keep reading conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    All of which were a part of All-Access with everything else, not as their own separate bundles. I wish they'd have done one if only so I didn't have to keep reading conspiracy theories.
    The first three "episodes" of Origins were released for free worldwide. Occasionally, they also temporarily put an episode of SG-1 or Atlantis on YouTube and is available worldwide. If there are legal or copyright issues, how can they do that?

    The copyrights and trademarks of Stargate are owned entirely by MGM, they can do whatever they want with it. Legal issues, especially with distribution, are possible, mainly because the three original series were made in collaboration with "SyFy" (ugh). As for the movie, either Fox or Lionsgate has international distribution rights (I think it was Fox for the TV shows and Lionsgate for the movie). But Origins is owned entirely by MGM.

    It's not hard to put two and two together and MGM hasn't done anything to prove us wrong. I'm definitely not shelling out almost the same price of an All-Access pass just to get Origins. If people enjoy it, fine. But MGM will have to put out all stops to get me to invest. There has been no response from MGM about anything. It's normal that people start wondering what's going on, especially those who had been left out since the beginning.

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    For free. That's something else to consider. They're not earning cash from those which would again suggest to me that's restricted by monetary/licensing issues. We don't know the whole truth behind this. I just refuse to jump on board the repetitive and boring bash-train that is about MGM's evil.

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    The way they’ve run it, I’m not even convinced MGM has been a participant. Yes I know, they own the rights, but the whole process has the feel of it being done by a handful of dedicated fans trying to prove to an uninterested MGM that it’s worth investing in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    I just refuse to jump on board the repetitive and boring bash-train that is about MGM's evil.
    Problem of cours, I for one, never implied MGM is evil. I'm just calling out their business model.

    You made it all about conspiricies and evil-doing. I'm amused though that's what you think is the problem.

    Dude, if they had come out in the beginning and said, we can't distribute this around the globe because we have license/broadcast contracts in place that prevent such a thing. I would have moved on.
    I would still have put a whole lot of people on ignore for spoiling the shiznit out of Origins but I would have left it alone.

    Instead they decided to give us the "We're working on it line..." and "...keep your eyes on the feed cause we're working on it."

    If there's one thing I hate more than anything else, it's dishonesty and it's pretty damning to their reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
    For free. That's something else to consider. They're not earning cash from those which would again suggest to me that's restricted by monetary/licensing issues. We don't know the whole truth behind this. I just refuse to jump on board the repetitive and boring bash-train that is about MGM's evil.
    For free, for beans, for coffee, for beer, or for money, it doesn't matter. If distribution rights or whatever prevents them from giving us All-Access, then they also aren't allowed to do it for free.

    I also don't think MGM is evil, just stupid and ignorant. Like Falcon Horus said, we keep hearing "we're working on it", or "keep an eye on the feed", or worse, complete silence. If we kindly ask what the problem is, again the same responses. Is that good? Is that normal? Should that convince me to invest in this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nivao View Post
    I also don't think MGM is evil, just stupid and ignorant. Like Falcon Horus said, we keep hearing "we're working on it", or "keep an eye on the feed", or worse, complete silence. If we kindly ask what the problem is, again the same responses. Is that good? Is that normal? Should that convince me to invest in this?
    Nope, cause customer service leaves much to be desired.
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    MGM normally seems pretty anti-iTunes when it comes to most of their other digital code distribution. For example, they have supported UltraViolet via Vudu UV codes but not iTunes or MoviesAnywhere. So it's odd that the digital code for this one is iTunes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilman View Post
    MGM normally seems pretty anti-iTunes when it comes to most of their other digital code distribution. For example, they have supported UltraViolet via Vudu UV codes but not iTunes or MoviesAnywhere. So it's odd that the digital code for this one is iTunes only.
    That's a strange thing to say especially since they have a contract with Apple iTunes since approx. 2007 about the distribution of their movie catalogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    That's a strange thing to say especially since they have a contract with Apple iTunes since approx. 2007 about the distribution of their movie catalogue.
    That may be the case but pretty much all their movies can be found at all the other big streaming services as well. But what I'm really referring to is that their digital 'codes' are almost exclusively for UV and/or Vudu only. I've been tracking digital codes very closely for years.

    The only iTunes digital codes that I'm aware of are these...
    • Fame
    • Hot Tub Time Machine
    • The Pink Panther 2
    • Stargate Origins: Catherine (Feature Cut)


    And here are all the digital codes that have existed for Vudu and/or UV over the years...
    • 007 x24 (All James Bond movies.)
    • Bull Durham
    • Carrie (Remake)
    • Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
    • Dances with Wolves
    • Death Wish (Remake)
    • The Delta Force
    • The Great Escape
    • Guns of the Magnificent Seven
    • Fistful of Dollars
    • For a Few Dollars More
    • The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
    • Hang 'Em High
    • Hercules (2014)
    • Hoosiers
    • Hot Pursuit
    • If I Stay
    • It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
    • Jeepers Creepers
    • Jeepers Creepers 2
    • Killer Klowns From Outer Space
    • Mad Max
    • The Magnificent Seven
    • The Magnificent Seven (Remake)
    • The Magnificent Seven Ride!
    • Misery
    • Platoon
    • The Princess Bride
    • Raging Bull
    • Red Dawn
    • Red Dawn (Remake)
    • Return of the Magnificent Seven
    • Road House
    • Rob Roy
    • Robocop
    • Robocop 2
    • Robocop 3
    • Rocky
    • The Silence of the Lambs
    • Spaceballs
    • The Terminator
    • Tomb Raider (2018)
    • The Usual Suspects
    • WarGames
    • West Side Story


    Their codes are almost always managed by Fox, though. A couple managed by WB and a couple by Paramount. I'm sure that has a some to do with it but it's still strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilman View Post
    Their codes are almost always managed by Fox, though. A couple managed by WB and a couple by Paramount. I'm sure that has a some to do with it but it's still strange.
    Ah... you put it like that, I see what you mean.

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    There is still no sign of email about the dowloading code... Meh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilman View Post
    I'm new and my comments were in a review queue so I'm not sure anyone saw them. I'm also curious if the 'feature cut' had anything addition not in the individual episodes? ?
    A new pre-title opening scene reminiscent of the Ra mask opener in some SG-1 seasons, and... that's it. Some effects were fixed, one scene had effects added - but by that I mean they fixed errors in their process / painted out a red ball of fluff on a floor / fixed a cropping issue / moved lens flares around / added a missing (anyone noticed? probably not) lens flare. At the same time, the puddle passages are still the same, the wand of horus is still missing a glow effect in one key shot, etc. Meanwhile, some scenes were removed (some of which warranted) or cut short (why?)

    There's a thorough visual changes break-down over on Reddit. Basically if you've seen the web episodes, you can practically give the feature cut a pass except to have a version without all the spin transitions... and that new pre-title is nice, just doesn't really add much. The 5.1 audio is nice, though. It's not particularly 'surround' sound, but it does separate voices from music (extracting front left / front right almost gives you OST-quality material) and most sound effects well. The 4K is... well not all shots are super sharp and, given the material, most of it doesn't warrant 4K anyway. But it's there, so that's nice?

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    SteeveB: Thanks for the comment.

    Have they changed the moons on Abydos? It was our Moon 3 times on the screen. This is not just simply lazy, but tastelessness as well.

    Have they fixed the sound effects of the gate? I mean the sound effects of the locking chevron, the opening of the kawoosh or the entering of the wormhole? I believe these ones were essentials. I don't care that much about how the gate is painted, but don't tell me that they were not able or they were not willing to search for the right sounds effects in the archieve. There were pretty bad CGI gates and projecte wormholes in all three SG shows, but the sound effects of the stargate must have been the core part of this franchise. Imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    There is still no sign of email about the dowloading code... Meh...
    Might want to contact support.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeveB View Post
    A new pre-title opening scene reminiscent of the Ra mask opener in some SG-1 seasons...
    The one I was sick and tired seeing every single episode, for 5 straight seasons. And my DVD's also have that opening from season 3 onwards, so I'll be glad when I'm through season 5 and the title sequence changes again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    Have they changed the moons on Abydos? It was our Moon 3 times on the screen. This is not just simply lazy, but tastelessness as well.
    Nope, it's still our little moon, mirrored and rotated.
    But the worst part of that view is that it almost looks like a René Magritte painting. There's no life in it, no depth. It literally looks like wallpaper or a wallposter, like they didn't bother with a green screen but just put the wallposter behind the opening and filmed that -- lighting wrong, coloring wrong. Along with the horrible 3D shot of Ra's ship, it's the two things that made me cringe and facepalm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    Have they fixed the sound effects of the gate? I mean the sound effects of the locking chevron, the opening of the kawoosh or the entering of the wormhole? I believe these ones were essentials. I don't care that much about how the gate is painted, but don't tell me that they were not able or they were not willing to search for the right sounds effects in the archieve. There were pretty bad CGI gates and projecte wormholes in all three SG shows, but the sound effects of the stargate must have been the core part of this franchise. Imho.
    I imagine you are referring to the clicking of the chevrons cause that's the sound effect I heard.
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    Yes, I am talking about the usual soundeffects:
    - spinning the inner ring
    - locking a chevron
    - the lighting of a chevron
    - the opening of the kawoosh
    - entering into the wormhole
    - leaving the wormhole
    - desintegration of the wormhole
    They must have these sound effects in the possesion of MGM and they should have used them. Because I don't mind that they wanted a connection between the movie and the SG-1, so it was cool to see the merging into the wormhole part, but then they ruin the illusions with the avoiding of the regular little noises and effects.

    They have even used the original DHD from SG-1 and you can easily how well it was made as a prop. The colour, the little details, basically everything is much better.
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