Answering here as the thread has not split off yet.
Your problem here is that armour like that starts looking like a precursor to an aggressive stance, and the UFP goes out of it's way to NOT look like an aggressive power.
Consider the real world for a moment. (I'm gonna use guns, but not as a political debate tool)
You can get guns nigh on anywhere in the USA, BUT there are very strict laws on buying and owning ballistic body armour because it implies intent to survive a gun related incident.
If starfleet started buying "flack jackets" for -ALL- it's ships, the other Major powers would -probably- see it the same way as we do today, a precursor to surviving a violent attack. "But what about shields?" you may ask, well Shields are good for everything, not just combat.
Let me reword that for you.
Declare war on the Romulans.
The UFP effectively got around the treaty ban on cloaking tech by allying with the Klingons, who are more than willing to do that kind of work for themselves and share the intel.
Undoubtedly, but see above.
Sure, the Hirogen found it so, and it's probably more effective than repairing the old Kobyashi Maru simulator every few days
It was.
Not just the dominion, but everyone, and a fleetwide upgrade like that would be known to every major power in the Alpha Quadrant within days at most, even before it could be done.
They did
Pretty sure it would, the phasing part of the cloak was not always active IIRC, so you would have to apply the tech of the modified cloak to experimental technology which runs poorly with understood technology.
That's a huge investment in time and resources, and one I don't think they had the luxury of exploring inside the timeframe of the dominion war.
Originally posted by mad_gater
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Consider the real world for a moment. (I'm gonna use guns, but not as a political debate tool)
You can get guns nigh on anywhere in the USA, BUT there are very strict laws on buying and owning ballistic body armour because it implies intent to survive a gun related incident.
If starfleet started buying "flack jackets" for -ALL- it's ships, the other Major powers would -probably- see it the same way as we do today, a precursor to surviving a violent attack. "But what about shields?" you may ask, well Shields are good for everything, not just combat.
And nullify the stifling Treaty of Algeron that left the Federation without the ability to effectively engage in stealth operations.
Declare war on the Romulans.
The UFP effectively got around the treaty ban on cloaking tech by allying with the Klingons, who are more than willing to do that kind of work for themselves and share the intel.
The ablative armor would've extended the amount of punishment those ships could take.
And that is a good point about stellar cartography. And I would argue that the holodeck has good combat applications too (namely the training of troops).
And re-starting the Pegasus Project (I think that's what that covert project was called that attempted to put a phasing cloak on the Pegasus)
and putting one of the Pegasus cloaks on ever ship in the fleet would've given them the ability to gather massive amounts of intelligence on Dominion activities.
Yes the Dominion had the capacity to do anti-proton scans but i think the Feds and the Romulans had eventually modified the Romulan cloaking devices so that anti-proton scans wouldn't light up cloaked vessels like Christmas trees.
And beides that...I don't think a simple anti-proton scan would nullify a cloaking device that can enable a ship to pass through solid matter like the phasing cloak on the Pegasus.
That's a huge investment in time and resources, and one I don't think they had the luxury of exploring inside the timeframe of the dominion war.
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