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    Quote Originally Posted by WraithTech View Post
    All-access does seem to explain why episodes 1-3 have the highest page views. But, I would have expected 4-5 and 6-7 to have had more similar pageview results, rather than the noticeable drop between them.
    Oh yeah... right... of course... because they should have the same amount of audience.

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    So have only a few thousands fans registered? It is so sad... And still 90% of the world is locked out. I really don't understand theirs marketing strategies if they have got any at all. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    So have only a few thousands fans registered? It is so sad...
    I do think it's a bit more than a few thousands, but the profile ID's are just that, a unique key that's connected to you in their registered user database.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    And still 90% of the world is locked out. I really don't understand theirs marketing strategies if they have got any at all. :/
    That is a lot of voices we are missing in the discussions. It makes me sad because of the split it caused in the fandom and seeing so many people locked out and, understandably, upset. Fans who used to chat and help one another are now distanced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    the profile ID's are just that, a unique key that's connected to you in their registered user database.
    I think so too. If you try to look up profiles by typing in numbers, such as 1, 0000001, 1000000, etc., nothing is returned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomaso88 View Post
    For years mgm said they wouldn't make another stargate franchise film because the dvd market was going downhill. We finally have a new way to watch shows which is live streaming and they chose to create something so low budget that many of the fans can't even enjoy it. Not to mention with live streaming you reach stargate fans accross the world as we know there is a massive fan base outside of the USA and Canada. Honestly just doesn't make sense to me at all.

    On a side note fans have recently started a petition for more stargate with Joseph mallozi backing it the Twitter page for it is Take a look at Stargate Now (@StargateNow): https://twitter.com/StargateNow
    https://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...nd-scifi-fans/
    There are a lot of low-budget successes in both movies and TV series, so the budget is not necessarily the biggest problem. That being said, with a low budget they should have focused on the actors and the story, which I am not sure we can say they did. Some special effects are okay, but then at least try to stick with the known canon.

    I see at least two other big problems:
    - limited access, why only such a select country limitation? It's their own streaming service, could have made more of an effort to make it more globally available. I hope a future feature release will at least partially solve this problem. Live streaming doesn't necessarily constitutes a problem per se. As has been suggested if they make the streaming services more accessible or make a deal with a third party streaming service like Netflix with a more global distribution.
    - continuity issues and target audience, or at least TPTB taking another direction with the story than genrally expected, because of course all these issues can be resolved with a deus ex machina ending. So, the story could have been more standalone and more easily accessible/believable to long-term stargate fans, who have closely followed Stargate before, because let's be honest, you can try to attract a new audience, but the largest group of subscribers you will attract will probably have seen and loved some form of stargate in the past.

    I don't believe that an internet petition is going to change anything. I also don't believe that we need to be supportive of this initiative of MGM with SGO and their streaming service in its current form, see arguments above.

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    Almost every about this I dont like.

    1) 10 Ten minute episodes? Who wants to watch for ten minutes at a time?

    2) Sorry, but the budget (low) really comes across. Why bother.

    3) I was really hoping for something good. Something that would put Stargate back on the map. Maybe even spawn new interest in continuing the older series(s). Honestly, my fear is this sets the franchise back even further. I found it nearly unwatchable, and I am a dedicated Stargate fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomaso88 View Post
    they chose to create something so low budget that many of the fans can't even enjoy it.
    I don't care if it's low budget. I can still enjoy it. I care that it was low quality. Low budget =/= low quality. You can do some really good things even on a low budget (Cube springs to mind). And you can still make absolute crap with all the money in the world *cough* George Lucas *cough*

    This could have been so so much better. But it's not because of the low budget. It's just that the low budget can't hide the poor writing behind pretty special effects and explosions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    I don't care if it's low budget. I can still enjoy it. I care that it was low quality. Low budget =/= low quality. You can do some really good things even on a low budget (Cube springs to mind). And you can still make absolute crap with all the money in the world *cough* George Lucas *cough*
    We'll have to disagree on Lucas but you are correct that low budget doesn't always mean low quality. There's a lot you can do with little budgets. Don't know Cube (though something tells me this was something David Hewlett was involved in. Am I correct?) but plenty of examples out there that proof a budget doesn't need to be in the millions to create something amazing.

    I can't comment to Origins quality either, as I'm one of the fans who is in the non-desired group and therefore unable to watch it legally (and if I can't watch it legally, it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned).

    On that notion: is that a spoiler image from Origins in your signature? Or an image from Daniel's notes in SG-1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    (though something tells me this was something David Hewlett was involved in. Am I correct?)
    Yes, and Nicole de Boer from Deep Space 9.

    On that notion: is that a spoiler image from Origins in your signature? Or an image from Daniel's notes in SG-1?
    Nope. That's my notebook from Ark of Truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    Yes, and Nicole de Boer from Deep Space 9.
    Ah, then I do know what it is (though never watched it).

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    Nope. That's my notebook from Ark of Truth.
    Too many notebooks around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    We'll have to disagree on Lucas but you are correct that low budget doesn't always mean low quality.
    The original Star Wars was made on an absolute shoestring budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekillman View Post
    The original Star Wars was made on an absolute shoestring budget.
    It showed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I can't comment to Origins quality either, as I'm one of the fans who is in the non-desired group and therefore unable to watch it legally (and if I can't watch it legally, it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned).
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    I bought the AAP for SGO, enjoyed the interaction between fans on the platform, participated in the Tweet Storms. I did my duty as far as I'm concerned, not for love of SG:O but for my love of SG in general. Now that being said, I 100% agree this web-series was really low quality, yet I still found myself enjoying it.

    I've received a MonkeySurvey recently from the SGO folks (I was one of the top 100 most active forum user on SGC) and the questions in it... are mostly pointless.
    Questions such as : Have you watched every series on our platform?
    I mean really? If I did watch something on your platform shouldn't you have logs telling you so?

    From a business point of view, or marketing if you like, I really can't see what these answers brings them. I expected questions asking my opinion about what should they improve, etc. Nope none of that. Seems like a part-time student was tasked to create a poll that ultimately in my opinion, serves no purpose.

    I strongly believe this whole SG:O thing was a publicity stunt more than anything else, and that it was never intended to actually make a solid prequel for the SG Universe. As most people said, they are testing the waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka-Z0 View Post
    I've received a MonkeySurvey recently from the SGO folks (I was one of the top 100 most active forum user on SGC) and the questions in it... are mostly pointless.
    Questions such as : Have you watched every series on our platform?
    I mean really? If I did watch something on your platform shouldn't you have logs telling you so?
    Trust me, more than 100 people received that survey, including myself. And I nearly choked on the question: "Why do you not have all-access?'

    Oh well, let me think about that for a second, .... oh yeah, now I remember -- you won't let me.
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