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    Tadam! We have reached the 20000 views. Unbelievable. Thank you.

    A mini 2 minutes fan fiction : Dr. Heightmeyer's personality could have been stored within the blue chrystal, so now she is singing a lullaby to calm all the blue chrystals who has become friendly after her therapy. Since she has lost her physical body, she could show up only as a projection when she has gained their trusts after a period of time. She has learned the tragic fate of the Unity how they were massacred in the Milky Way and how the Ancients wanted to resettle them in the Pegasus galaxy, but she has also learned what role they have played in the creation of DHDs and the communication stones. The Unity race helped to expand the Stargate universe further than ever as great distances could be connected as they have fused themselves with the Ancient technologies as allies. So Kate decided to search for them, but she couldn't use the gate system. So instead of entering into the wormhole she has sent a message with the DHD chrystals which has communicated with all the other DHDs in the whole galaxy as a subspace echo, but Atlantis hasn't had the traditional DHD, so they haven't noticed it at all. So imagine her surprise when an old friend has noticed her desperate action. RepliWeir who has searched secretly the whole Pegasus galaxy for the secret of ascension while she was observed by the other Replicators. RepliWeir has offered her to create a new Replicator host body, but Kate has refused it as she was afraid of the nanites will take over her body and mind. And as much as she wanted she couldn't return to Atlantis either as she was part of the chrystal unity now. As a final help RepliWeir told her that she has got the knowledge of the original Weir who has read the reports of the SG-1. RepliWeir told her she must find an Ancient communication stone or use the McK-C bridge to go the Milky Way as the MW Unity could help her. Elisabeth has given a secret hint what she should do then their ways were seperated then. Kate was still stuck as an energy being stored memory being in the blue chrystals when she has managed to convince some of them to go for an adventure. The Unity Chrystals have started to regrow and reform themselves, so they have got tiny legs now which could go through the Stargate like the original replicator bugs and that was the reference from Weir. Some of the Unity has started to merge into each other to form a larger ChrystalHeightmeyer, so now she could materialize herself in human form. She could not go back to Atlantis. She has walked in the wormhole with some walking blue chrystals to the McK-C bridge which was under cnstruction. They have manipulated Kavanaugh easy enough to repogram the station to dial not the SGC, but the the Unity planet and then his memories were overwritten. So Kate has returned to the Pegasus Unity tribe to the Milky Way and that is how her new adventures starts....

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    If I would be in charge at least in the vfx team I would use some kind of scanning mechanism to create "alien" trees. I have seen somewhere that nowadays they can scan large objects like a rock formation and then it can be used in digital models. I believe they have mentioned such options at the new Unreal 5 engine or the upcoming The Elder Scroll VI game. So I was wondering why could they simply not scan much smaller living objects, like plants? For example there are so many rare and really weird looking minerals, succulents, cactuses or mushrooms that any of them could be digitally increased, rotated and multiplied to create a realistic looking digital background. It always annoyed me when we can see only 1-2 trees in a computer game as the programmers are lazy to make more models and it is also easier to count the graphics for the computers if the same modell is turned around on the same hill or valley. I am not a CGI artist at all, but it would be cool to see a little background decoration here and there. It should not necessarily interact with the live action actors as digital sets are challenging, just I am tired of empty mines, desert or forests. It is time to fill the worlds with life. I would expect the nextgenSG to show us some weird environment this relatively cheaper way because they can not afford to travel to different destination of Earth and even 3d printed miniatures would be too expensive. But our nature could provide the best modells. Later maybe they could even scan some animals like some weird insects or birds, but I am guessing the rules are more strict about animals than plants. I believe the technology has reached that point when we really have to some odd looking landscape for the audience next to the characters, plot and adventure.

    For example just have a look at these succulents :
    https://www.boredpanda.com/unusual-s...mpaign=organic
    https://www.thespruce.com/unusual-su...plants-4156785
    http://www.successlifelounge.com/108...-alien-planet/

    They could be easily scanned or used as a model for creating an "alien forest" on a scifi show. Like I have played with the vegetables in my short lived Stargate in the kitchen photo series. I know I have moaned about a few times about this expectations and they can never afford an Avatar type of complex CGI jungle landscape in a tv episode. So I was wondering how could they be a bit more cost effective. Sometimes I have got inspirations from these type of photos, because most of these plants are not even known by the people.
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    Previously I have talked about this idea, but here is a bit longer description.

    A new SG team arrives via the stargate to a sandy planet, what their leader just calls as the "Dune" after his favorite scifi book. The newbies are excited as this is one of the first planet where their Stargate Academy training has allowed them to go offworld. The planet's name looks fitting as there are large earthworms type of predators which hunt for meat. The local stargate has got weird spike decorations on it as according to legends these animals are capable of even swallowing a stargate. The new recruits believe that whole little training was heavily focused about on emergency evacs as the team must escape back through the stargate when one of the larger earthworm will also follow them. Their SG team leader has placed a camera on the local DHD, so he follows the entrance side in real time on their base while he educates the newbies about how the wormhole works that a living person won't show up on the other side until it was not completly merged into the event horizont. They have got a few second timegap to close the Iris while the animal is still going in to the stargate, but it will never materialize on the other side. So the whole cold opening was just to establish this basic Stargate lore rule for the new viewers. The commander of the base is fuming about his education methods as he was endangering the whole base and even his team has got different opinion if this whole off-world visit was just a joke or a treat. What the bold and reckless trainer didn't know that his actions will start an even greater adventure for the Tauri.

    We would learn later that the local stargate system has got a travel safety feature. So the DHD can scan the race of the dialer and it can compare the living conditions on the other side with the other DHD, so if there is any danger the light of 7th chevron will change colour or flashing or if the wormhole is already established then it will stop the wormhole before entering or copy the traveller but it will send it back to the entry site (like Anubis has done it in season 9).

    So anyway what the team doesn't know that the local animals were also considered as intelligent beings so this giant wormhole was saved in the gate system's memory and it was transfered to the "collector" world. This is a new unique location within the gate system which can be reached by nine chevron. We would learn it that this collector world works like an "afterlife" where the different victims of different gate accidents are transfered. Most of these travellers are not just from the local galaxy, but rather the Milky Way and the Pegasus galaxy. Later we would discover that every time somebody "splashed" on the Iris at the SGC or Atlantis' energy shield then the gate system have transferred the travellers into this world instead of letting them die. This way we could introduce a few old enemies as imagine if the Jaffa, Genii or Wraith soldiers are still there. This high level gate function was written by the Nox, who has updated their own stargate protocoll to save them. The gate system is also enough intelligent to not post bombs or explosives there, but the dangerous animals are free to go. So we would see the insects from the episode "Bane" and obviously the above mentioned earthworm type of creature as well. We would learn it later that this world is like a dead-end within the gate systems as no survivors could dial away from there.

    It would be only interesting as one of the main character's motive could be that he or she was considered dead by the SGC and he/she was left behind, but actually he/she has arrived to this unique, almost prison type of world. Or the story could be introduced as his/her partner is lost or maybe even a complete SG team was considered dead. One of the base motto of the SGC is that they don't leave people behind, but maybe it has happened in the past even if they were aware of it.

    Later our heroes would make a truce with the local troops and they promise to return everyone where they belong. They will discover that this collector world has got a unique gate position as any galaxy can be reached much easier once they have managed to break the mastercode. So even intergalactic travels could be easily maintained if the travelers are transfered through this stargate as it doesn't belong to any known gate system.

    And this is how a new spinoff could start. The location could be an introduction of the "shell ship" which is an Ancient vessel which can jump from stargate to stargate as it has got a self-rebuilding stargate drive and the local DHD on board will also mimicri the gate system. Or it can have a stargate which act likes a "chameleon gate" which also copies the local stargate system and works like a member of it. That is how the team would learn how expanded is the gate systems as they have to fix the ship at first and make a deal with its last passanger etc. Then they could use this "shell ship" to find the Hub the fix the messed up stargate system in the Milky Way which need the Hub in an other galaxy and then the story goes on the SpaceGenie and his little mind games / adventures and how he has moved the whole Hub / Library from some kind of invaders who know just confused the gate system with a massive, galactic wide Attero device which prevents FTL windows in the whole galaxy.

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    The other little idea was still about the Hub / Library. If we would introduce that the Hub is capable of monitoring the physical condition of the travellers in the gate system. We could learn how this wormhole and the copies can cause some genetic degeneration and this is why the Asgard were dangered. Since they have cloned themselves the clones also had this genetic problem and basically the side-effect of the stargate travel was added in their body.

    This discovery would be slightly the opposite what has happened in the first idea. So while some extra features can save travellers, it looks like the interstellar travelling can also cause some damage. If we would have a change to visit the Othala or Ida galaxy where the Lucian Alliance and/or the Vanirs will try to find some Asgard tech, then we could see how the Asgard has adapted their own gate system to the problem. The local stargates are beaming energy signals so some kind of Thor's hammer type of extra device would scan the traveller, then send the signal through the active wormhole and then the beam will transport the travellers on the other side. This is the reason they had to wear their strong exoskeletons as well if they have ever entered the wormhole. The local wormholes are extremely dangerous to unorganic life so they have tried to hold back the Replicators this way to not spread via the stargates and this was the main reason why they have decided to capture the Asgard ships. This "spinoff" would follow the situation in the used-to-be Asgard controlled galaxy as everyone wants to find an important Asgard treasure room and maybe the answer is onboard of the Odysseus. Or some wardrones would be activated by the Vanirs which would go through the stargates to conquest. There could be other VR worlds in the gate memory, there could be some locked alien races which are released now, maybe the Ragnarok was just an acting for the Ori, maybe the Asgard has been on Destiny... There are so many options here why this gate system is unique and how we can use this knowledge. The beaming through the wormhole was also established in the "Quest" so maybe even Merlin has worked together with some Asgards.
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    It would be interesting to see if any digital copies are kept in an archieve, because it could be a blessing and a curse at the same time. So imagine if they would like to study the side-effects of wormholes then it would be enough to compare the different results. I mean there could be a story about how the wormholes will have a long-term effect on the human physiology then it mean that those people are in potential danger who were working for SGC. Like SG-1 has gone the most planets, but then what if they will discover that it can cause problems (like accelerating DNA denegeration - cancer). So then they have to search for this archieve if it exist at all, because that could store all the information of gate travellers without a time travel. So SG-1 was "saved" in 1997 then they could compare their own biology with other copies which were also stored years later. If they could have this reference, then they could clearly see if the gate system has got any major change in the living organisms. I know this idea sounds like an ambitious plan, but they should talk about such plots if we would like to investigate the positive or negative side-effect of the gate system. Maybe some safety features were turned off in the Milky Way, while maybe some other races have added more in their own galaxy.

    We also know from the lore that the gate system doesn't make duplicates. So it desintegrates then rebuilds on the other side, but it happens so fast that travellers don't even notice the difference. But then we could play with this plot like in the Ripple Effect. What if a malfunctioning gate wlll send copies after copies, but then they all fall apart after a time.

    Even the Asgards could be "rescued" if they could compare the current Asgard logs with their peak time, when they could use the gate system. What if this one was the big secret what Thor has never shared with Earth. So we could "reprint" some old Asgard travellers to revive the race if there would be a way to put material into the wormhole. I mean even the gate system can not print materials from nothing if we follow the established rules, so maybe there would be an "input" world where the gate system could drain resources to creat life on the arrival side. This idea could also start a long term plot whether that particular world is happy about its draining.
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    From other threads :

    I wouldn't mind some stronger back story for the Asgard. I don't want to see that the Vanirs would turn into good guys after everything. I have tried to imagine what could cause the rapid genetic degradation so this is the reason I believe we should study whether the wormhole process can change the DNA of a race. Like a genetic puzzle which is always fixed by the gate system, but soon it or later the process wouldn't be perfect. This anomaly could be accidental or if there is an evil mastermind behind it, maybe it happens directly. So what if the Vanirs wanted to get rid off the cousins, so they have "poisoned" the gate tech such faulty mechanism? At first it was sounding promising as they wanted to prevent the Replicators to use the gate system and all non-biological were killed by wormhole travel as the metal parts were disintegrated with massive radiation. This has made the Asgard vulnerable as even their mobile wardrones were not able to fly through the gates. Later they have modified the local stargate and this is how the exoskeletons were used and why the gate system were using the beaming method. What the Asgard was not aware that the Vanir was manipulating the local gate network and maybe they have released the Replicators on them in the first place. And why would they do such things?

    I also wanted to here a secondary story how the Asgard were so sensitive to these changes as we could discover that there was a point in their history where they have discovered alternate realities and they have cross-bred with Asgards from an other reality as it was an innocent biological accident as a celebration. What they were not aware that this AU reality was the "homereality" of the Vanir, so even if they had descendants together, their genetic makeup has turned vulnerable and their slow genetic degradation was the start how they have split into two groups because of moral reason show to treat the younger races in the Othala galaxy. Vanirs wanted to conquer this reality in a long term war, while they started to eridicate basically themselves with this gate manipulations and the ongoing tech war with the Replicators.

    And this event could have an effect on us when we would learn how some tech scavangers wanted to adapt this gate protocols in the Milky Way system too. Will they able the beam people through the gate? Cab the distance to be modified? So imagine somebody dials the SGC, but they can beam people in any other location on Earth. What if they beam weapons like bombs? What if the DHDs are infected with "scanner" function which would detect the race of the dialer? What if this security protcoll was meant for safe gate travel as the gates woul detect habitable life conditions on the other side and show it on chevrons, but now this function would be turned against other races? So technically what if they modify it that instead of the metal Replicators, the human body can not enter the gate system anymore as the wormholes would kill them? What if somebody set it up that only Unas can use it? Or if this is the way how they want to kill every Jaffa? The status quo of the galaxy would be broken and the new team should find a way how to fix it and repair the gate network.

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    I believe this franchise should be about the gate system and gate related problems. We can introduce many new galaxies with slightly different gate systems, because why would the Ancients not colonise all the galaxies in the local group? But I think the writers have written themselves into a story telling "corner" with the whole ascension story. So as much as we love ascended beings they could introduce other groups, but I believe the audience wants something more believeable, literally more material enemies who can be defeated with luch, intelligence or morals by the new heroes.

    I have written a few ideas in my fan fiction thread, but here are some gate ideas in a nutshell :

    - Ori galaxy : stargates can be slit up into 9 pieces (like one piece per chevron) which could extend the diameter of the stargates as the pieces would be hold together by some energy cells like it was done at the beachhead gate, so this gate type can make a bigger ring to let pass medium sized ships through the event horizon

    - Othala and Ida galaxy : local DHDs can stand the race of the traveller which was a filter against the Replicators. The wormholes are deadly for organic life, so the Asgards have used exoskeletons (like the Vanirs who have visited Destiny) and they have also installed scanners on the gate like Thor's hammer. So they have discovered that the gate system is much safer for their physiology if the travellers are scanned and transported as energy signale instead of merging into the wormhole. So technically the local travelling is beaming through the stargate (like Arthur inner network in the Quest).
    This technology could be harmful in the wrong hands as the travellers can be locked out from travelling by race, because what if this gate protocol is uploaded to other stargate networks.
    Asgard has also sealed worlds in time dilation fields, so when their Ragnarok event has happened these races (allies or foes) will hunt for technology and the heritage of the Asgard.
    Not to mention the Vanirs and the Lucian Alliance who wants to capture the Odussey as they believe it is the key to a legendary vault of the Asgard.

    - Nox controlled galaxy : they have got "transphase gates" as they like hiding and separating the evolution of the lifeforms. Many worlds were also hided in the Milky Way too, but when the Nox cloudcity is forced to leave the Milky way after a galaxy wide event, these alien worlds would turn into normal phase and this will start some major changes in the status quo.
    Earth will also discover that so called "chameleon gates" are planted in the Milky Way which works like a member of the local gate network, but technically they are just mimicri its function, while they have got superior range above the normal gates. This mysterios race has got long term plans how to conquer the Milky Way galaxy without attention.

    Our heroes will search for the legendary "gate master" and his or her location which will be essentially the cave of infinite knowledge what Athena was looking for. Later we will find out that was the Great Library on Earth which was moved to a distant location. It has got also the "hub" or the observation station of the local stargate network, which will play a key role to fix the damaged stargates and stargate protocolls. The new team will serve this gate master while they try to save the galaxies. They would use an experimental ship which can fold itself into the wormhole through the stargate and it can rebuilt itself on the other side as a combination of the Asgard-Nox-Ancient technology. Their ship could travel only from gate to gate, so it would work differently in comparsion to the jumpers as it uses the "stargate drive". The gate master would be by the way a "space ginn" who is one of the last remaining original local tour guide program which was "living" in the DHD main chrystal and his role was navigate and greet the travellers. They were hunted down by an unknown enemy when they have started to malfunction and then he has locked himself in his station which is essentially our new base. So the new team must earn his trust and they should find together what is going on at the gate systems. But anyway that is a long story.

    So even these ideas could be combined or separated, but simply imagine a much larger stargate universe then the Milky Way and the Pegasus galaxy. You can introduce new playing ground with a new galaxy. Just there must be a logical explanation why is the local stargate network different, who are the major races, what happened with the Ancients, do they know about the Milky Way and especially Earth / Avalon / Tauri, if there are humans etc. And later these isolated galaxies can visit each other, such races and evolutionary ways can clash which would never meet without the gate system. I believe these type of discovery stories could be told interestingly.

    Back to the original question. I would close down the SGC for 8 years if President Hayes was replaced by a new president who hates the program so the SGC was shut down / destroyed. Even the whole Earth could have been cloaked by Atlantis when this step seems to be the only way to save our homeworld under an alien blockaded. Then a new Earth based spinoff could be based why the SGC was moved to the Moon, how the Homeworld Security tries to solve some alien intervention and find out what has happened in the Milky Way while Earth was not active. Anything can be introduced this way in the known galaxies, so the new heroes have to re-discover how the fame of Earth was ruined and how the galaxy has evolved without them.

    So where would you go? To the Ori galaxy, where the naive locals are influenced by treasure hunters? Or the Othala galaxy which was nearly ruined by the bug replicators? Or the Ida galaxy where is a hightech second Asgard stargate system guards the vault with ancient, mythological beasts? Or the Pegasus galaxy where the Wraith civil war has reached its peak with the disappearance of Atlantis? Or shall we stay in the Milky Way galaxy where the gate system and the FTL travel are completly paralysed by an invading alien force? As you can see there are many adventures to tell...

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    Here are some bad guys idea :

    1. I would like to see an ecozealot type of race who is obsessed with the protection of evolution and the laws of nature. They would not hesitate to attack such worlds which commits crimes so they would be like ecoterrorists.

    2. I would like to see a race which makes allies with themselves in different realities. This step makes them extremely powerful even if they are technologically just scavengers as they would learn very quickly lots of possible AU scenarios while they support each other.

    3. We would meet a group of time traveller race who jumps back and back and back in time and basically this sect would always rebuilt itself with the latest new information. They are a crazy bunch people who believes the Ancients were created by the humans with a gate accident, so they want to find out when this event will eventually happen. They believe humans have gone back in the past and they were the origin of Ancients (and the Ori), so this is one of the main reason why the Ancients can not interfere with the mortal world as they don't want to break the cycle.

    4. When Atlantis has used the hyperdrive in 5x20 Enemies at the gate (season finale), this jump has caused a massive hole in the flow of the cosmic background radiation (CBR). An advanced race will invade the Milky Way who will turn on a bigger scale of Attero device (from Atlantis 5x11-5x12), so no ships can forge FTL windows. Nobody can fly anywhere anymore including Earth and Lucian Alliance who both blame the other side for this unfortunate event. The gate system is used again and this is the place when we could introduce the self-folding or opening-up stargate technology from the Ori galaxy which still helps the ships to pass through but the Attero device won't block it. This is the reason why those "chamelon gates" show up and then Earth must delete the synchronization method of the gatenetwork while a group of heroes are searching for the hub to fix it in an other galaxy.

    5. I would like to see an aggressive mushroom race which uses mind controlling spores through the stargate. When a safety feature is turned off accidentally the floating spores are capable of flying through the wormholes. Completly worlds will be occupied by floating moss type of forests too.

    6. An ancient race is released from its time prison when the shockwave of the gate synchronization will hit their world from the SG-1 6x18 events. They are extremely annoyed who has dared to interfere with their sleep.

    7. We could meet a weird carnival who goes world to world through the stargates like a circus market. But later we would discover their dark secrets that all those captures alien beasts are slaves.

    8. We could meet a race which hates every humanoid or bilateral symmetrical biological lifeform. They hate symmetry as their body is radial symmetry. So simply.

    9. We could meet an advanced civilazation who is living in a VR world. They can steal and copy items from gate travellers while they are being transferred in the memory of the gate network.

    10. We could meet some giant wardrones who can roll through the stargates. They were released from an Asgard deposit, but now they serve a new master.

    11. We could meet a group of a travelling company, which offers escorted tours via the stargate system. They are not necessarily good or bad, rather annoying enemies as they would make a mess almost everywhere.

    12. We could follow the footsteps of the Goa'uld Athena who has decided to capture some artifacts on Earth then to rebuild her dynasty with Loyal Jaffas. The Jaffas would be torn into groups anyway as there is not enough tretonin for everyone and some Rebel Jaffa are not willing to give up 40-60 years of their life for freedom.

    13. We could follow an outcome of an Asgard experiment (probably by Loki) where they have placed a cloned human on many planets so they are following his direct evolution. This is the part where we would learn the origin of Varro.

    14. We could also clash with a civilization who uses the stargates as a reality show similar to the Runners. They would send androids for different quests, but the androids are not aware they are expendables.

    15. The Ashen would be able to break out their isolation.

    16. An ancient powerful race would return to flood and freeze worlds via the stargate when the gate protocolls are suspended.

    and so goes on.... Most of these could be introduced in any stargate network whichever galaxy you choose. As you can see these ideas are based on moral, biological, cultural or technological issues. You don't need necessarly to introduce all powerul godly races when you are spinning storylines. What is really essential to create believable enemies who can be defeated by the heroes with logical decisions and talents and not just magical hightech stuffs. You have to give them an unique character or a face, a real motivation what do they want to achieve, what technological level they have reached, how much do they know about the gate system, what role have they played in the existing lore, if there is any personal agenda against the new heroes or Earth (or the the new base). Kree.

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    I believe this franchise should be about the gate system and gate related problems. We can introduce many new galaxies with slightly different gate systems, because why would the Ancients not colonise all the galaxies in the local group? But I think the writers have written themselves into a story telling "corner" with the whole ascension story. So as much as we love ascended beings they could introduce other groups, but I believe the audience wants something more believeable, literally more material enemies who can be defeated with luch, intelligence or morals by the new heroes.

    I have written a few ideas in my fan fiction thread, but here are some gate ideas in a nutshell :

    - Ori galaxy : stargates can be slit up into 9 pieces (like one piece per chevron) which could extend the diameter of the stargates as the pieces would be hold together by some energy cells like it was done at the beachhead gate, so this gate type can make a bigger ring to let pass medium sized ships through the event horizon

    - Othala and Ida galaxy : local DHDs can stand the race of the traveller which was a filter against the Replicators. The wormholes are deadly for organic life, so the Asgards have used exoskeletons (like the Vanirs who have visited Destiny) and they have also installed scanners on the gate like Thor's hammer. So they have discovered that the gate system is much safer for their physiology if the travellers are scanned and transported as energy signale instead of merging into the wormhole. So technically the local travelling is beaming through the stargate (like Arthur inner network in the Quest).
    This technology could be harmful in the wrong hands as the travellers can be locked out from travelling by race, because what if this gate protocol is uploaded to other stargate networks.
    Asgard has also sealed worlds in time dilation fields, so when their Ragnarok event has happened these races (allies or foes) will hunt for technology and the heritage of the Asgard.
    Not to mention the Vanirs and the Lucian Alliance who wants to capture the Odussey as they believe it is the key to a legendary vault of the Asgard.

    - Nox controlled galaxy : they have got "transphase gates" as they like hiding and separating the evolution of the lifeforms. Many worlds were also hided in the Milky Way too, but when the Nox cloudcity is forced to leave the Milky way after a galaxy wide event, these alien worlds would turn into normal phase and this will start some major changes in the status quo.
    Earth will also discover that so called "chameleon gates" are planted in the Milky Way which works like a member of the local gate network, but technically they are just mimicri its function, while they have got superior range above the normal gates. This mysterios race has got long term plans how to conquer the Milky Way galaxy without attention.

    Our heroes will search for the legendary "gate master" and his or her location which will be essentially the cave of infinite knowledge what Athena was looking for. Later we will find out that was the Great Library on Earth which was moved to a distant location. It has got also the "hub" or the observation station of the local stargate network, which will play a key role to fix the damaged stargates and stargate protocolls. The new team will serve this gate master while they try to save the galaxies. They would use an experimental ship which can fold itself into the wormhole through the stargate and it can rebuilt itself on the other side as a combination of the Asgard-Nox-Ancient technology. Their ship could travel only from gate to gate, so it would work differently in comparsion to the jumpers as it uses the "stargate drive". The gate master would be by the way a "space ginn" who is one of the last remaining original local tour guide program which was "living" in the DHD main chrystal and his role was navigate and greet the travellers. They were hunted down by an unknown enemy when they have started to malfunction and then he has locked himself in his station which is essentially our new base. So the new team must earn his trust and they should find together what is going on at the gate systems. But anyway that is a long story.

    So even these ideas could be combined or separated, but simply imagine a much larger stargate universe then the Milky Way and the Pegasus galaxy. You can introduce new playing ground with a new galaxy. Just there must be a logical explanation why is the local stargate network different, who are the major races, what happened with the Ancients, do they know about the Milky Way and especially Earth / Avalon / Tauri, if there are humans etc. And later these isolated galaxies can visit each other, such races and evolutionary ways can clash which would never meet without the gate system. I believe these type of discovery stories could be told interestingly.

    Back to the original question. I would close down the SGC for 8 years if President Hayes was replaced by a new president who hates the program so the SGC was shut down / destroyed. Even the whole Earth could have been cloaked by Atlantis when this step seems to be the only way to save our homeworld under an alien blockaded. Then a new Earth based spinoff could be based why the SGC was moved to the Moon, how the Homeworld Security tries to solve some alien intervention and find out what has happened in the Milky Way while Earth was not active. Anything can be introduced this way in the known galaxies, so the new heroes have to re-discover how the fame of Earth was ruined and how the galaxy has evolved without them.

    So where would you go? To the Ori galaxy, where the naive locals are influenced by treasure hunters? Or the Othala galaxy which was nearly ruined by the bug replicators? Or the Ida galaxy where is a hightech second Asgard stargate system guards the vault with ancient, mythological beasts? Or the Pegasus galaxy where the Wraith civil war has reached its peak with the disappearance of Atlantis? Or shall we stay in the Milky Way galaxy where the gate system and the FTL travel are completly paralysed by an invading alien force? As you can see there are many adventures to tell...

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    Okay, we don't know what BW is planning.

    My original concept was that while the Ori has gained energy from followers, what if the Ancients or any new ascended beings are gaining energy from technology users? So this would be the secret agenda of the new enemy. I am aware of it that the Attero device has made the gate exploded, so this new galactic wide one would be an upgraded version where ships can not open FTL / hyperspace windows, but the gate system is unharmed. The story would progress into that way that our new enemy is from an other galaxy and they want to prevent that anyone can contact them by ships. When Atlantis has flown home with a wormhole jump in the series finale that could alarm this new bad guys that somebody has reached that technological level when they can visit them. They strongly believe these massive jumps causes breaks in the cosmic background radiation like an ozone hole, so this would be the other reason why they force the local MW races to use the stargates instead of flying. This step would also connect the events of the Universe into the existing lore. The twist would be that while they look hostile, their motivations are not necessarily bad or evil. But now everybody would blame the Tauri that they have caused again a mess since nobody can conquer or trade with each other. But this is just my fan fiction idea, not the official canon. I really would like to se how we return to gate related adventures (new gate types, new jumpers etc.), while our enemies would also develop similar technologies. The franchise should be about the gate sytem and not turn it into Star Trek or Star Wars even more.

    The DHD living genie concept was about the controlling chrystals. In my own SG reality, the Furlings were terraformers, so they were modifying planets to their own needs. Their allies were the Blue Chrystals (the race called Unity) which has helped the Ancients to create much longer and safer accurate gate travel. The genie character would be like a living MALP, who can follow the team, but he can't leave the dhds in the beginning. So he could travel through the wormhole from dhd to dhd, but he plays his own mind game with the team. He would be a shapeshifter, but only for such races who have touched the dhd. This idea was originally planned for an other stargate network, where such safety protocolls were integrated that the gate system is scanning the race of the travellers, the it will decide if it is safe to go through (like a flashing 7th symbol changes colour if the other side is deadly or the traveller is sent back from the gate memory to the point of origin). I believe the Ancients were not really meant to kill anyone with their stargate network, so such safety features could exist. Maybe it was removed from the Milky Way and the Pegasus. What would happen if somebidy would reprogram such extra functions that no humans or Jaffas can use the stargates? This is how a safety option would turn into a weapon in the wrong hands.

    The circus thing would have been about the slavery and such intelligent races who are kept as prisoners. They wouldn't be a main enemy, just an annoying company who would make worlds turn against our heroes. Their main goal could be anything like they are working for a Goa'uld who still wants to find a perfect host race. Maybe they would just simply make a mess with searching ruins or stealing tech etc.

    The tour company idea was just an inner joke whether Stargate could work as a workplace comedy. They won't be like postmen from Firefly, but they would offer different packs for tourists as they would visit the worlds through the Stargates. Imagine a possibility when civilians would take over a program instead of military, so they would be allies and enemies at the same time as they would make some troubles to our heroes

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    Don't forget that our heroes now 40-50-60 years old now as that is the real age of the actors. People would settle down in midlife, so while it would be nice to see their return, they should be portayed as "real" humans not like workalcoholics who haven't got any private life. Like Sam and Jack, Daniel and Vala, Rodney and Jennifer are still together, maybe they have got teenager aged childrens now and maybe they don't want to travel to different planets day by day as they have "retired". Some heroes have got other military or civilian tasks (like working in Area 51 to make more jumper type ships or wardrones, educating at the Homeworld Security in Washington etc.)

    It would be nice to see how China would react to the disappearance of the Asgard. Would they keep the treaty with the SGC. What would prevent them to make more X304 than the USA if they can copy the given technology? What would happen if they decide to bring home their own Stargate with a DHD to Earth? Who could prevent this events? Obviously I don't want to turn them into a second Russian type bad guys, but they won't necessarily follow the rules after the SGC is closed down or suspended for years.

    I was always wondering how people would react if they could visit such worlds which were based on their culture. For example would China trade with Lord Yu's Jaffas on his homeworld (the planet Jade)? Or would they visit China by themselves with tel'tacs? Since we haven't got the Antarctic Chair anymore (it was destroyed in the Atlantis series finale) then any alien race can visit Earth. Such treats could be dealt in a Stargate : Homeworld series as what if more and more alien races will reveal themselves or they were here for the whole time etc. Anything is possible with the right explanation. The universe is infinite.

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    Maybe not all Rebel Jaffa shares the same vision as Teal'c. Those ones who were forced to be free, maybe they want different goals with their life. Imagine that you could leave 140-160-180 years with a Goa'uld symbiote then you are forced to use tretonin and reduce yours and your children's life expectancyto 70-90 years. So no way they will agree with this even if it sounds idealistic from the writers. They wanted to introduce fractions (Rebel Jaffa vs. Loyal Jaffa) in Stargate : Worlds. Then they have done something similar through season 9 which was heavily focused on Jaffa politics too. But have the Replicators found all the Systemlord? We will never know, maybe some of them can still hide on isolated worlds. And the Stargate : Universe has showed how defenseless we are at the moment in the lore as any cloaked cargoship can land on Earth. So yes, an offworld coalition is still a possibility. But this is just open-spinning, don't take me too seriously

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