Milky Way galaxy in 2020

[Platschu]

From : https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...4#post14640224

If the communication stones could work in real time from 100+ galaxies away, then anything can happen.

I have written down a few ideas here before, but I believe you have seen it:
https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...ead-supergates
So ex-Ori people would make supergates, the pieces would be sent forward to open a wormhole for the X304, while they would "infect" and map the stargates with an Avenger 3.0 dialing program. This idea could work with the Hub or if they could use the new gate protocols to map the stargates as the Avengers would send back the coordinates of every stargate to the Hub / X304.

We are massively off-topic, but I imagined that this new "shell" ship uses the stargates as drives. So it can detach itself from the gate to fly away, then it would merge back with the back part. Maybe it would have a special new DHD which would "mimicri" the local stargate network, so it can always adapt whereever the shell arrived. The ship would fly within the gate system's memory, then rebuild itself around the stargate in transphase, then turn back to our phase. I know it is slightly similar to the Star Trek : Discovery's spore drive, but it could work creatively. The new "base" would be this ship, while maybe the energy needs would be much smaller to jump between galaxies. What if they could have such high level gate protocols which collect energy from the locally placed stargates, so basically the "dialing effort" would up of the small U-gates to make wormholes into a new galaxy.

Then this whole "shell" could be used to rescue the X304 which was stopped by the Blueberrys/drones, but it could still help them out to reach Destiny. Then they give them a naquadah generator and they can dial back to Earth and the crew of Destiny is saved, the X304 also goes back one by one galaxy. Rush would stay on the board of Destiny as literally that is his Destiny, so he merges with the AI system and he can be forever with Mandy. So something like that.

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Teh Big Bang idea just showed up in mind a few weeks ago. I know it is a bit ambitious as we don't know the real powers, realms, planes of our universe. I always imagined it as Destiny would speed up and like a sperm cell it would fly to the centre of the universe to find the "egg", then the Big Bang starts. Maybe the CBR is the echoes of this potential future as it already happened in the future, what is technically our past. Because the closer you go to the centre, you tecnically travel forward in time as they can see the fresher and fresher realistic picture through the CBR. So that is the reason I believe this mission will be finished only by dr. Rush. Maybe it will happen x million years later, but since we get back the CBR, these echoes back his future (past) actions.

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The life creating machine of Dakara was destroyed, but if you have readed my evolutionary biology comment, then it could be interesting to base a few storylines on it. How it was used in the past.

Just imagine the situation of the NASA. They are worried to not infect any moons or planets in our solar system. The question is, is it the right decision? Shall we let the life spread and "infect" as many places as we can? Or shall we be isolationist, who could infect these object with the first seeds of life, but we don't do it as a sign of respect of the local evolution? The same philosophical debate should be continued as the Stargate would be a perfect tool for it. Was it a good idea or a bad idea from the Ancients? What role the Destiny could play in spreading of the lost fame of Ancients / Earth? etc. Waht if suddenly the life is destroyed on Earth? What if those little spores are the last survivors of our evolution what was accidentally left on satellites? Like in the Jurassic Park : "Life finds a way". So maybe the nature won't get zebras, rhinos or whales again from bacterials, but the whole process can restart. What if when the Sun will be a red star, then the livable zone of the solar system would be moved from Earth to the Jupiter? Then those microbes could restart the "game". So this 4D thinking what Stargate needs, what could happened, what happens and what will happen. That is the real message of CBR for me.

(Okay it was a bit too deep, but I hope you enjoyed it. )

[Platschu]

I was reading again about Khepri, the scarab bettle headed Egyptian god. This is so weird that it would deserve an own Stargate story.


Mimicry
Suddenly mounted giants scarabs arrive through the stargates with Jaffas on them on different Milky Way worlds. They have got the Jaffa tattoo as a black scarab on their forehead of course. Even Khepri is going with his army with a golden plated scarab. Nobody understand why has he revealed himself if he used to be a relatively peaceful and hidden smaller Goa'uld for centuries.

Tok’Ra reports and Jaffa legends say that the raiding party is leaded by Khepri, who used to be an Underlord next to Ra, but when Ra started a fight against Atum, he isolated himself from the war. Nobody has seen him for a while and his little planet was never interesting in the history of the Goa'uld Empire. Most of the Systemlords believed that he was killed by his own experiments.

They show up only on those planets which were infested again by the R-75 species and we would expect that they will start to destroy the kassa and the local farmers, but something else happens. It looks Khepri is capable of conrolling the R-75, which follows him back to this world instead of killing them. So basically he helps the locals, but nobody understand it why. The SGC experts makes the quick connection that the new spreading appearance of these carnivorous bugs and these giant scarabs can have a connection, so the rest of the SG-1 (or the new team) would like to contact him and to investigate what he is doing exactly and how a bad guy could turn into a potential ally against the Lucian Alliance. They are worried he is the resource of the new wave of Ori bugs and the whole saving campaign is part of his acting to raise up as a god again. The team decides they must lure him out from his nest or destroying it forever.

Soon it or later the coordinates of his planet is revealed by the DHD, but it looks like his stargate can not be dialed. The team decides they must lure him out from his nest or they have to go there.The SG-1 decided to go there on the board of the Odussey as the stargate is still locked up. First they investigate his stargate.

It looks like he has got giant bus sized scarabs which live on his moon. Instead of energy shields or Iris, they would make a giant ball of ground-silk which would be rolled into the stargate to stop any incoming wormhole. Khepri has got a smaller human Jaffa army, who can ride on these medium sized scarabs, while they largest ones are still guarding the Stargate.

Odussey scanned the surface and it looks like he was terraforming his own tiny small moon where he was hiding. The giants scarabs were eating / terraforming the metal streams of the moon in the ground, while they build it up on the surface, where lots of sphere type materials can be found. They beam themselves into his palace, where they would find out what is Khepri doing.

It looks like his giant scarabs are capable of communicating with each other with ultrasounds, so SG-1 is captured quickly in the palace. Khepri also adapted their "bug language", so he can control of the bugs and that is the reason he turned into a Scarab God thousand years ago in the legends. His moon is next to gas giant, so the gravity forces also affects the local wildlife’s DNA. That is the reason his scarabs were growing so big on this particular place, while the local size of the sun also accelerated his experiments.

The SG-1 also learns that Khepri was capable of following the presense of R-75 in the Milky Way as the insects’ ultrasound communication is echoing in the MW gate system’s refreshing protocols, so when the gates call each other in subspace, actually they also notify each other about the presence of the local danger. (Since the Hub is missing from the MW this could be the first clue of the higher connection of the stargates what we haven’t learnt yet.)

SG-1 finds out that Khepri is not friendly at all. He wants to use the R-75 as a biological weapon, so he wants to increase the size of them like his scarabs. When he takes off his golden scarab mask, it is revealed that actually he is a Prior under the mask. Khepri’s little world was visited by the Ori spaceships a long time ago during the Crusade and he was forced to work for them. The modified R-75 is actually came from this planet and not from the Ori galaxy. They used to be part of the local ecosystem.

Eventually the Ori lost their power, so the Prior lost some skills too. That was the perfect time to Khepri, who tried to kill his own Prior bodyguard and took over his host body, but he must have lost this battle. The Prior took his place and “Khepri” who wants to rule over the galaxy and he can easily kill every humans with his bugs. SG-1 was right about him, he really acted as a saver to gain fame for himself.

The Odussey can’t beam out the SG-1 as the massive ultrasound of the insects also confuses the beaming technology, while the anti-Prior weapon also fails to work on him. The commander of Odussey decides to use the nerve gas against the whole base even if they have to sacrifice the lives of the local Jaffas and the SG-1. They can only beam in materials, but not to beam out anyone. They can also not risk that they beam up bugs from the surface.

The clever solution come from Daniel Jackson who manages to grab the staff of the Prior. Since he used to be a Prior, he can turn on the blue lights which will keep the R-75 and the other scarabs away. The team kills “Khepri” and they are able to escape, so they manage to reach the Stargate, where they can fight themselves out of this buggy situation. They also managed to grab that piece of Ori technology what allowed to Khepri to study the gate protocols.

The last scene is that a giant scarab chirrs on a hill when the eyes of the scarab turns into yellow at the sunrise. Khepri returned.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khepri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarabaeus_sacer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_b..._ancient_Egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimicry

[plumber]

You could try rewriting the less outlandish and more Canon-ish of your fanfic's cool ideas into a new (shorter) version, more akin to an actual SG1 episode. P-}

Overall, Stargate tends to make great and extended use of a few grand concepts, but rarely uses other myths or concepts/races/techs away from the "core" set. So your "plot generator" has already produced the building blocks of another 10-15 whole Seasons, even if half the stuff was discarded or "left for a better time."

The Scarab under-god has my vote. That conflict needs to happen!

As for SGU's continuation, my answers would be 1e (most of 'em), 2a/d (a Novan planet), 3d (10 days / 40 years later, 50 years earlier), 4a/c/d.

J. Mallozzi said Brad Wright had the main story arc all worked out, including the CMBR puzzle. I have a reasonable guess about it that answers most of your questions (and others) yet is surprisingly simple and 100% canon. I crafted a plausible/explosive ending around it for the Ancients, Dr.Rush, and the "Destiny of all Things", as posted here:

https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...1#post14616898

There's also plausible backstories (origins) for the Drones and the Planet Builders. Barely outlandish at all.

Go ahead and let me know what you think of 'em.

[Platschu]

We are approching the 7000 views. Yay. Thank you, gaters.

plumber: I will read your fan fictions, I promise. I had a brief look on them. Yours look so professional with this script type version. Well done.

As you could see I was also wondering what is the Cosmic Background Radiation (CBR) is all about in the Universe 2x20 thread. Honestly I doubt that we will ever find it out.

[Platschu]

I was thinking on the The Khepri/Prior story as well. It could be ended that the team puts the anti-Prior device next to the DHD, so when he wants to escape from the planet or to go for the next conquest, then it would be turned on instead of establishing a wormhole, so the evil Goa'uld or the evil Prior (whichever you like) would die by his own bugs.

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An other little DHD related story idea or scene also showed up in my mind, just I am not so sure I shared it. We would see a presentation of a construction, where a mayor would officially open a new, very tall skyscraper of a huge city. He would hold a long speech how proud is he, what a great achievement to finally reach the Red Sun. Then the camera would roll away and it would be revealed they have built the building next to a DHD and the whole civilization is really-really small as the Red Sun is the button of the DHD. That would be the opening scene for a Lilliput type world scenario in Stargate, who tried to capture the giants (the old/new SG team) who visited their world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilliput_and_Blefuscu

[Platschu]

Stargate Protocols

Stargate Protocols (SP) are such Ancient programing which controls the different stargate network to improve travel safety. Some of them were written by the Ancients, some of them were written by such advanced races who inherited their legacy. Some simple gate protocols can be found in every local stagate network, while some of them were added as a special need of the local races, while others were turned off after failed experiments or upgraded by different and better versions.

I could remember these. I know it sounds like a little “spell book”, but hopefully a new SG spinoff or the fan fictions could develop new gate and DHD functions. I will reveal a little list what I am expecting and I imagined. Some of them were shared in my Milky Way 2020 topic already.


The known basic gate protocols:
1. Short distance dialing : the stargate can only call the nearest stargates. This function was upgraded or turned off when the newer versions of stargates were developed by the Ancients.
2. Medium distance dialing : 6 location and 1 origin needed to dial any location within the local network
3. Long distance dialing : 7 location and 1 origin needed to dial a particular location in a distant network
4. Time limit : the wormhole is closed down in 38 minutes
5. Synchronize : the stargates communicate with each other in subspace to compensate the stellar drift
6. Overload : if the wormhole is targeted by high energy weapons or emission, then the ending site can jump to the nearest stargate (to protect the arrival site)
7. Blocked : two stargates can not work in the same area of space as interference of synchnorizing, so the higher version or the Stargate with DHD will gain priority
8. Sustaining life : the established wormhole can not be closed down as long as living material goes continuously through the event horizon at the entering or at the arrival side
9. Filter : the pressure and consistency of the entering material to activated wormhole is measured, so toxic atmosphere, water or lava can not be moved between stargates
10. Zero position : wormhole can be established if the stargate is not moving at the entering side
11. Manual dial : stargate can store emergency energy to establish wormhole once more without DHD, so it can be dialed manually


Advanced or rare or individual gate protocols :
Stargate : SG-1
1. Time travel : wormholes can create a time loop if the journey is affected by solar flares (used by SG-1 in “2010”)
2. Safehouse : wormholes can save the travelers and rematerialize them in any chosen gate (used by Anubis in “Prototype”)
3. De-synchronizing : DHD related technology which stop the communication between gates (used by dr. Felger in “Avengers 2.0”)
4. Location bombarding : disconnect the wormhole at a particular time to release non-living travelers from subspace location to space (used by dr. Carter to release heavy chemical elements in “Red Sky”)
5. Ripple effect : wormhole can be affected by alternate timeline (seen in “Ripple Effect”)
6. Multi-dialing : combines the short and medium range protocols with the de-synchronizing to call all stargate at the same time for non living traveller (used by Baal to spread the anti-Replicator beam in “Reckoning”)
7. Teleport : a combination of Asgard and Ancient technology allows to teleport living travelers without entering the active wormhole between two stargates where beaming stations are built on both end (seen in “The Quest, part II”)
8. Size change : an upgraded version of the overload protocol, where the wormhole can jump from a normal sized stargate to the supergate as long as it gains enough energy at the entrance side (seen in “The Pegasus Project”)
9. Unlimited time : it overrides the normal time limit protocol if the wormhole is established to the near of a black hole and the the gravity waves / energy can directly affect the arrival side (seen in “Matter Of Time”)
10. Overload : an energy reservoir built-in into the stargate (maybe to spare energy for manual dialing without DHD) to slowly overload the maximum capacity, so essentially the stargate can turn into a weapon (used by Anubis with the combination of alien technology in “Redemption”)

Stargate : Atlantis
1. Memory travel : the updated and combined syncnorize and short distance protocol can move material (living and non living) between stargates without establishing wormhole (used by dr. McKay at the McKay-Carter Intergalactic Gate Bridge in “The Return, part II)
2. Space gate : stargates can levitate in space and rotated to the right entering position by added maneuvering rockets
3. Puddler Jumper / Gateship dialing : it allows spaceship to dial the closest stargate as movable DHDs, so it gains priority over the local DHD or the stargate can be dialed in space from distance
4. Instant overload : similar to the regular overload protocol, but here the Attero technology interferes with the subspace communication which instantly overload the stargates on both end (used by Vanirs in “The First Contact”)

Stargate : Universe
1. Ultra long distance dialing : 8 location and 1 origin coordinate symbol needed to dial a particular location in the known universe

[Platschu]

Ida galaxy and Othala galaxy :
The Ida galaxy used to be the home world of the Asgard which had been overrun by the Replicators, so they have moved to the Othala galaxy. Both galaxies have got their own stargate network, but there are some differences. I have imagined that the Asgard suffered from a genetic degradation because they have visited some alternate universe to find other Asgard. Some of them joined them and intermarriages started between the different realities to refresh their gene pools. That is how they found the Vanir group in the past. The Asgards of two realities have merged and they created a new race. Unfortunately they were not aware in the beginning that their physiology have radically changed in spite of it looked advantageous. The new Asgard race discovered that they are extremely vulnerable to wormhole technology as the Cosmic Background Radiation (CBR) directly affects them while they are in transfer. They decided to upgrade their own stargate network as the Ancient stargate protocol programming was not handling this threat. It caused some cultural break in their society as some Asgard strongly believed they have to expose themselves regularly to understand the greater universe around themselves as these changed must be part of their evolution into Ascendancy. They discovered that the Asgard group called Vanirs have got a dominant AU illness what they haven’t accepted as a biological problem. One group said it is a disease of the genes as they committed this crime against nature to merge different realities, while the other said it is part of their true natural evolution. They strongly believed that the humans are related to the Ancients and their own Anchestors who used to be their ally before their extinction, so the Asgard was divided if it is ethical to study the humans for their own genetic reasons. They have visited Earth many time in the past, but they have taken their first human subjects with ships instead of the stargate technology which was already buried in Egypt after the rebellion against Ra. The Asgard have already controlled a few human colonies as part of Asgard Protected Planets in the Milky Way, but the threat of the Goa’uld Empire was rising and rising again. The civil war escalated quickly in their home galaxy. The Vanirs were essentially defeated, but they have escaped to an unknown location. We know from Stargate : Atlantis that this place was the Pegasus galaxy. The Vanirs have never used the Stargate system there as they were aware of the genetic degradation, so they have planned to conquer this reality a long time ago. They could have saved the rest of the Asgard, but they have kept their discoveries for themselves, then the Replicators have weakened their old brothers anyway.

Tauri has inherited the legacy of the Asgard, so they decided to study their technology at the ruins of the Ida and Othala galaxy. Unfortunately the Vanirs have also returned to take back their legacy, while new scavangers races also decided to find useful technologies in Asgard ruins after they managed to capture some Asgard Protected Planets.

So here are some potential stargate protocol which makes the local stargate network unique in these galaxies :
1. Projection : Asgard were capable of sending holograms through the active wormhole, so they could look around on the other side without entering the wormhole. This technology was stolen by Anubis and Baal as it was seen in the SGC a few times (like in “Redemption” and “Reckoning”). Only that person can be projectile who holds his hand on the DHD chrystal at the entering side.
2. Scanning : the Asgard placed a device on every stargate above the 7th Chevron. It works similar to the Thor’s hammer. It can scan the entering and the arriving side, so it helps the Projection technology. The traveler must stand a stargate shaped clearing between the gate and the local DHD.
3. Beaming : the Asgards were transferred while they were wearing exoskeletons through the Stargate. Similar technology was used by Merlin to hide the Sangraal in an inner gate network in the Milky Way.
4. Race restriction : only living beings can enter the wormhole. The Asgard wanted to avoid that the Replicators can use the stargate system, so the mechanical lifeforms couldn’t spread by the stargate and they had to use ships. It could only slow them down. This was one of the best programming what even the Replicators couldn’t break. Some theories say that even the Ancients descended to help the Asgard to write it. If it could fall into wrong hands as a weapon, because the modified version could be catastrophic as imagine what could happen if the humans or the Wraith couldn’t use the stargate system anymore.
5. Poison : the stargates of the Othala-galaxy have been added some high tech metal poison, so the Replicators were not capable of eating them.
6. Map : gate addresses can be seen as holograms above the DHD (or between the “corns” of the DHD)
7. Guide : a unique hologram type beings who used to serve as local tour guides who are stored in the DHD chrystals. They are the master of the Projection / Scanning / Beaming. They can show up around the arrival side’s DHD, but they can also transfer themselves back as energy or radio waves to the entering side. Later this advanced stargate protocol had a malfunction and they all mysteriously disappeared. I talked before that I would like to see one of this last surviving guide as a main character, who could fill the role of a living MALP. Later we would find out that he or she is not only a program, rather a living and sensitive thing.
8. Anti-beaming : Asgard protocol which prevents the Stargates to be beamed away or moved. They had to introduce this technology when an aggressive hostile race showed up in their galaxy and they were capable of levitate the stargate to the cloud level or even into spacegate. (This unknown race would be a new enemy of the heroes as they would build massive floating forests in the sky.)
9. Recall : space gates can be called down to the planet’s surface or sent back to orbit.

But it depends what you imagine for the past of the galaxy. Have the Asgard built in war drones into their stargates? Where are their drones now? Have all Asgard died? What happened with the distant colonies? Have they meet with the Attero? What happened with the Furlings and the Four Great Race? Some stories could be based just on these gate related ideas if they have got a malfunction or if somebody would use it for wrong reasons etc. We have brainstormed a few story ideas as well if the memory function of the gate could lead to some VR world or some subspace thieves or time travel. Even the DHD functions can be upgraded to give a unique feel for this new stargate network.

So this is the way how we could introduce the HUB / core storyline. The Milky Way has lost its own HUB as it was moved to an other network. Maybe it was a war situation, maybe our enemies wanted to weaken our MW network, who knows? If we could introduce what happened it could be an exciting extension of the lore. Then the Hub could send out new gate protocols, it could recognize malfunctioned gates etc. Just read back as I have shared a few idead already about it.

The origin of the HUB :
https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...1#post14635173

Hub functions :
https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...1#post14635630

[Platschu]

"Unity"

The "Unity" is a name of a chrystal race what we could see in "Cold Lazarus". The Ancients have build their first stargate network in the Milky Way (the Universe type stargates), when they have meet with these chrystals. The Unity used to be an unique race where every member could communicate with every other member. The Ancients were truly impressed with their skills as the Unity has grown wonderful shard cities on their planet which haven't always followed the law of physics, while they were even capable of copying their humanoid look at negotiation. During these talks the Unity also learned a lot about the nature, the future goals of their "guests".

The Ancients discovered that the Unity is much older than them. The Unity are one of the rare non-humanoid, inorganic intelligent lifeforms who can store the energy signature of the universe itself. The Unity literally united the solar systems through the Cosmic Background Radiation (CBR) what they could hear, understand and translate like local radio stations, so this is the reason they could communicate with each other on different planets.

The Ancients have only had their short range Stargate network, so when they have envisoned them their plan about a big galactic community, the Unity decided to help to improve their technology as it looked promising as a pact of peace. The Unity was already spreading in the galaxy through small ships and meteorits. Legends say they even had artificial planets made from chrystals. The leaders of the Unity created such red chrystals for them which could still store energy and the maintain the local position while they could communicate with each other. The Ancients took their precious gifts and the first DHDs have been created which changed the shape of the galaxy forever. The gift of the Unity could accelerate the whole stargate system as the Unity chrystals helped to locate distance positions in space, so the gate travel could be extended.

New stargate network was laid down in the Milky Way and the civilizations of organic life started to evolve rapidly. The Unity was not afraid of them as they were not competitors in the beginning. The Unity just lived their relatively simply life as matter and time meant completly a different things for them. Their biggest weakness was still that the oldest members were almost immobile, while the younger ones tried to fight in different forms. And that leaded to their fall. More and more races arrived as everyone wanted their gifts.

The Unity chrystals were really good to create energy shields as these were their other defense when the their shapeshifter skills were failing. They knew that their race is dying and slowly they will be overrun by the organic lifeform who started to destroy their colonies for more supplies. The Unity were horrified and scarred, so the war was unavoidable. We don't know the exact details or how long it took, but the last leader of the Unity was even leaded into a trap : the Goa'uld murdered him and his body was cut up into six pieces what they called as the "Eyes". The Systemlords agreed that they can never re-unite the pieces as the whole Unity community was broken without their oldest leader. They could easily hunt them down and break them up into smaller pieces which became essential as part of their technology.

What the Goa'uld have never known that the Unity has discovered Ascension in the first place and they helped out the Ancients during their extinction. They were so good at understanding the higher law of the universe that they decided to live their life in such a form where they can exist only as a pure energy. Earlier they have never known about real death as their physical shape was brokeable, but their true spirit was immortal, so it could be downloaded again or shared between other Unity hosts. So when the last leader was executed he uploaded himself to the higher existence, he ascended and only his physical form were destroyed. The 7th piece was never found by the Goa'uld and later that part became the Sangraal. A powerful red chrystal object which can banish energy forms from the ascended realm and what was used later to kill or to stop the Ori.

The legend of the Unity was almost forgotten until now when the host of Baal revealed that Baal used to be an owner of one of the Eye. While the Eye of Tiamat belonged to a special host who we know as Omoroca.

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I know this is only a little improvisation to fill some plot holes in the SG lore : DHD chrystals, Unity, the Eyes, Ascension and the CBR. But the story could still work while it could lead to the Omoroca story or the DHD living chrystal form.

I was also thinking that maybe they could be in war with a metal type unorganic race which created the naquadah in the galaxy or something like that.

But even the Unity could be reintroduced as an active race again : they could have hided their capital world or they came from an other galaxy in the first place anyway.

Or the new team would arrive to a desert planet, while the Unity community would hide under the dunes, then suddently chrystal coloumns would merge around them.

Or they could be introduced in a dark world, where everything would look like a neon world. So similar to the Tron (or the night on Pandora from the Avatar movie), there would be neon lamp type of cactuses, predators and of course the Unity which also lives underground. Any scenario could be introduced on such a world.

Or since they could be shapeshifters they could hide themselves as an other race. Imagine a scenario where the team visit a seemingly human world, then they would discover that ALL humans are illusions and part of Unity.

Or I could see a shiny billiard ball type of planet in the galaxy which used to be the capatial of the Unity. Then this place is completly dead and scavangers shoot to planet to break it into larger pieces, but some forcefield would be still active around it, so the whole planet would look like a half-broken ball while different pieces would float around it. Then the new team would investigate if there is any life activity or what maintains still the shields, while they could fight against the space scavengers, then the Unity would give them a mission. etc.

And if we follow the original story idea, the "space Jinn" could be a member of Unity who lives in DHD chrystals. Maybe he was hided in the system or he was forced to stay away, but his/her personality and background story could be introduced on so many different way if you read back my earlier posts.

Since they can show themselves as humans it would be cost-effective to introduce them in a new SG spin off.

[Platschu]

It is good to see that even if I haven't posted anything since 17th December, the number of viewing are still climbing up. 8700+ views. Wow.

I was wondering if a Muslim character could work in Stargate? I know they tried to skip the religious belief of the heroes, but it would be interesting to see a Muslim secondary character, who would pray to Mecca even on a distant planet. So if they could handle it with sensitivity, then they wouldn't hurt anyone. I even don't know how popular was Stargate in the Middle-East. I am guessing they must have sold SG-1 to local companies, but I am not really sure the local viewers appreciated it if it was heavily based on the glory of the US Army.

Then I was thinking what would happen if the Stargate brand could be bought by Chinese investors? Would you be happy about it? Because they could still write stories about a Chinese team. I imagined a little scenario, what would happen if an SG team would visit Lord Yu's worlds. It must be interesting, if you can see your own culture in a different developement. But while the people of Earth were competitive through wars, what would happen with a Chinese civiliazation if they are isolated on an other planet? I mean this ohilosophical problem could be visited by any other Earth based culture. So would they happy to see a "time capsule" of their own past in a new form? Or would they be shocked? That is the reason I loved the season 2 episode with the Salish aliens as they were directly talking how a culture evolved on Earth and how it changed on an other planet. I believe some future SG episodes could be based on these questions. Like any Scandinavian people would visit Asgard worlds or see the runes, how would they react? Or if we know that the Latin was the language of the Ancients, then what role and when have they played a role in the Roman Empire? That could be also interesting and that was the other reason I was brainstorming on the Great Library or Academy stories as they could answer these plot holes in our SG history on Earth. But then the writers should really plan ahead what eras existed, which alien visited which continent or folks and when etc. When have Nem's people visited Earth? When has the Giant Aliens visited the Mayans? So many questions, so many exciting new adventure options.

[WraithRichard]

I was wondering if a Muslim character could work in Stargate? I know they tried to skip the religious belief of the heroes, but it would be interesting to see a Muslim secondary character, who would pray to Mecca even on a distant planet. So if they could handle it with sensitivity, then they wouldn't hurt anyone. I even don't know how popular was Stargate in the Middle-East. I am guessing they must have sold SG-1 to local companies, but I am not really sure the local viewers appreciated it if it was heavily based on the glory of the US Army.

i've actually looked this up for my own Muslim character. Praying to Mecca gets a bit of a Pass, as in space, all directions are considered towards Mecca (that nad often what you are on is moving). Prayer is often taken when other people excuse themselves, such as for lunch or when you wake up. Hala foods depends on how orthodox your character is. I'm assuming they would psend quite some time in space, so hair rules for men would mean to a) find a barber or b), just kep your hair clean and nice-looking according to your preference (my character chose the latter).

I hoestly don't know how popular Stargtate would be, as Islam is a pretty widespread religion. My character is form Morroco, where Sci-fi is condered lame.

I think one of the biggest issues is how your character sees others, such as Tok'Ra, who share minds, Asgard, who are nekkid, and people like Teyla (wear little, women in leader/military roles, hair out).

Also, congrats on the followers. I hope to get at least a hundred for my comic someday.

[Platschu]

I know about the religious rules even if I am not Muslim. I have visited a few countries in my life, so I have seen many-many wonderful mosques and palaces. But I am not so sure whether a Muslim (or any other deeply religous) character could work in Stargate without hurting the feeling of anyone. They almost crossed that line with the Ori storyline as well, what could be translated so many different way. They tried it in the Stargate : Universe as well, but it still feels "safer" if they don't talk about such subjects of the main heroes.

[WraithRichard]

I know about the religious rules even if I am not Muslim. I have visited a few countries in my life, so I have seen many-many wonderful mosques and palaces. But I am not so sure whether a Muslim (or any other deeply religous) character could work in Stargate without hurting the feeling of anyone. They almost crossed that line with the Ori storyline as well, what could be translated so many different way. They tried it in the Stargate : Universe as well, but it still feels "safer" if they don't talk about such subjects of the main heroes.

I may be biased, but I grew up with shows that didn't play things safe. Sure, most skipped religion in genreal, but they didn't always want to play things safe and these days they are lauded for that.

I don't think it's an issue of religion. Religion and spirituality were something Babylon 5 was praised for and something Trek, at the same time, was also priased for. How they worked is that those characters didn't push religion on anyone else (maybe bad guys did), but the focus was on the faith of the character, not demands from the religion. Teyla and her people were deeply spiritual. Cameron disliked relion due to the pressure and the hatred that came from it,not the facrt that it was Christianity.

But if YOU don't feel comfortable with it, don't do it.

[Platschu]

Thanks, but I am not a writer rather a dreamer. I am just a fan with a wild imagination, who likes giving tools and ideas for other fans. I mean everybody expect only the direct continuation of SG-1/Atlantis/Universe, but if you ever played RPGs, just imagine how the galaxy works, how the gate system works, which allies and enemies we have got now then how can we move forward to start something new, original, but also respectful to the canon. But I am not Brad Wright. I wish he could read this thread for a little inspiration.

Occasionally I am still thinking on my the three-four main story ideas : the Stargate Origins - Omoroca story, the Asgard and the Academy related spinoff ideas. All of them have got their own aspects, stargate networks.

1. Omoroca: would be the introduction of the Oannes and the Giant Aliens, the Furling Moon Doors : so it would be rather on alien intervention on Earth - like a Man in Black type Stargate : Homeworld show

2. Stargate : Valhalla : would deal with the remains of the Asgard legacy : search for Valhalla, the Yggdrasil tree, the Nine worlds, the return of Vanirs, some crossover with the Universe (Nakai conflict and the previous Asgard expedition on Destiny)

3. Academy : would deal with transphase related races and adventures : mainly ecology, biology, geology related problems

4. The fourth one could deal with AU threats, but it could be connected to the Ragnarok (Asgard) series idea

Maybe I should take plumber's advice and properly think about the details and main plots. But if you read back, you can find lots of ideas here anyway.

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Stargate : Valhalla / Stargate : Ragnarok

When the Asgard destroyed themselves, what if they dialed a 9 chevron address (the Bifrost)? I know it is a bit easy way to rescue them, but the explosion could be a result that they were sitting on an Icarus type of planet. It doesn't mean necessarily they have gone to Destiny, because there could be lots of other 9 chevron addresses... Maybe they wanted to make a final test for the humans how we will use their knowledge or something.

Even the Nine Realms could be the address to Valhalla where they have gone (theoratically).
https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/
https://norse-mythology.net/the-nine...rse-mythology/
https://norse-mythology.org/tales/ragnarok/
I know Marvel has done the Thor : Ragnarok movie, but it doesn't mean these legends couldn't be used in Stargate. So 9 worlds = 9 chevron symbol which must be dialed from a Stonehenge type of building. So far Earth would know what was Midgard's symbol. The Atlantis expedition could talk and warn about the presence Vanirs in the Pegasus galaxy, so they must know where is Vanaheim. They could also arrive to the Milky Way to check upon some Protected Planets which must be guarded by Earth know from other alien revengers. The "Asgard" as a planet could be a Replicator destroyed Asgard homeworld in the Ida galaxy... Maybe the Destiny was a symbol of "Hel" as a realm of dead. So our new heroes would fly to the Asgard controlled galaxies to find out where are the other locations, so they could prove that they are really the heir of their legacy. The Nine Worlds could be even in 9 different galaxies, but that would slightly overcomplicate things. Then it would mean that Muspelheim is the Ori galaxy, but the Asgard has never been there.

But it depends how this complex tale would be told as it could be shorten into a Stargate Origins - Yggdrasil story....

[WraithRichard]

Thanks, but I am not a writer rather a dreamer. I am just a fan with a wild imagination, who likes giving tools and ideas for other fans. I mean everybody expect only the direct continuation of SG-1/Atlantis/Universe, but if you ever played RPGs, just imagine how the galaxy works, how the gate system works, which allies and enemies we have got now then how can we move forward to start something new, original, but also respectful to the canon. But I am not Brad Wright. I wish he could read this thread for a little inspiration. .

I would love to have you over on my discord, but only if you're happy. I'm setting up my own continuation comic, and I'm looking for input from other fans (or just have them happily chat stargate stuff) for more ideas.

All three first ideas look like they could greatyly help the story. But I'd never steal from another fan.

[Platschu]

If you don't mind I would like to keep these story / series ideas as they are not finished and I have to consider what could or couldn't be fitted into the canon easily. I rarely read fan fictions, but if I can help in anything just let me know. I haven't got too much time to spin on them, but I was being kissed by a muse occasionally then it feels like this thread wrote itself. Probably it depends on my mood. Sometimes ideas show up in my mind while I am swimming. Probably I should focus on one thing at a time, but if you have read the whole topic, there were so many nice things improvised here. Sometimes I just imagine a cool scene then I was wondering how could I spin a story around it? Or how could mythological animals, races or events be included in the Stargate lore?

That is how I have imagined the Omoroca story as it would be a great Stargate Origins story, while it could setup even more Origins story if it is written cleverly. We know that Omoroca had died on Earth, but I have seen a little picture in front me that she is standing in a lake, protected by a forcefield around herself while hundreds of swarming Goa'ulds are watching her every move. It has felt like a Matrix poster, when Neo stopped the bullets. Then I was digging here and there, so I have read more and more details about the Gilgames story. I wanted to connect her to Baal, so what if Belos is an other name of Baal? Then I was checking some details of Epic of Gilgamesh, then you know the rest of the story...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh
I also wanted to find a logic reason why the Sahara was growing up suddently in the last few thousand years. Since I would like to change the focus of a potential new Stargate show towards protection of environment, biological hazards, then I was thinking what if Omoroca's ship caused this wound on Earth? Could her spaceship still be in the desert somewhere? Could the ship's energy needs drain all the water? Or was it moved to other planets through the Stargate? Could she flood the Antartic outpost? So these ones were the first steps then I was thinking how could I brainstorm a story which could build on the existing informations, could include some introduced characters (like Hathor and Baal), while it could fill some plot holes and obviously could move the whole franchise into a new direction. So that is how I imagine stories, but not necessarily conversations or characters. That could be the next step, just as I have said the ideas come randomly and I also don't focus on one subject.

[WraithRichard]

That's perfectly fine. They're your ideas and your stories to make after all. Good luck