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    fair enough.... of course he served apophis, and no one ever said apophis would view good as ... well... good

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    Thanks. We are getting close to the 5000 views. Thanks again.

    I always have been one of the greatest Goa'uld fan in the Hungarian community. Somebody has to support the "bad" buys. If you read back about the Titan story that could be their redemtion. Maybe they really looked promising as shepherds of different folks in the galaxy as "Systemlords", but then something changed and they became rival and they turned into evil.

    * * *

    I was still thinking about the Omoroka story. I have readed a brief summary:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh
    If you read it as a Stargate fans, then basically the story writes itself. Gilgames and his friend goes to different locations what could be introduced as different planets. The Hungarian version is a bit more detailed, but tablet 11 what we need... He had a quest to collect a plant from the bottom of the sea of death which makes him young again, but then a snake steels it (!), so he lost the hope of immortality.

    The original epic has got other locations as well where Gilgames could travel through special guarded doors (!). So really... the story could be easily translated that they were stargates.


    The only problem is that this epic playes roughly 4000 years ago, so it would be a bit hard how to fit into the stargate timeline. Earth hasn't had an active gate that time. The Antarctic gate is frozen in a glacier, while Ra (Ea) has brought his own stargate to Earth when he swapped his host to humans.

    Even Istar shows up in the story who was equal to Hathor. There are different rivalry between the gods as well, but the roughly 2700 years old Enuma Elis talks more about it. And it has got Marduk in it, so the EE story could only work while the Goa'uld already ruled on Earth.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En%C3%BBma_Eli%C5%A1

    So if Omoroca arrived before Ra then she could have been a teacher for the first human civilization in Mesopotamia. Then somehow Omoroca and Nem are separated from each other, while Omoroca started a fight against the Goa'uld. And we know the end of it that Belos (in my version Baal) kills her. But if Ra and his dynasty arrived later then this story wouldn't fit into the timeline as there was no Goa'uld on Earth at that time.

    Back to the Gilgames myth... Enkidu and Gilgames even visits a special forest (a Cedar forest), what could be introduced as a Nox guarded sanctuary. Maybe the Nox and the Oannes were allies and they were guarding the second evolution of Ancients, who are already ascended, left then returned 10000 years ago into our galaxy.

    The only reason I am still thinking how to create a timeline as we have to leave out "gaps" for other adventures (like the Titan, then the Olympus / Hephaistos story, or the Goa'uld civil war, later the Hathor banishment to America, later Janus and Egeria, or even the visit of the Giant aliens, or any other alien race see Stonehenge and Nacza ideas). Anyway, I am just entertaining myself with such myths, maybe nobody interested at all.

    I had a little look on cuneforms as well:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script
    I really would like to draw a little stargate, where these ones are on as glyphs. It would be a new stargate network in the home galaxy of the Oannes. They could be introduced as they were interested in the creator of stargates, so they decided to come to the Milky way, but they have delayed a few million years as their "masters" were already dead or ascended. But they have upgraded their own stargate systems with capturing a seeding ship. Maybe they could have this house moving stargate types, so Omoroca could simply "jump" her own stargate temporaly to Earth. Maybe she was there when chosen heroes were sent to quests into the Milky Way galaxy, but then her "gatehouse" have left Earth. Maybe her actions drawed the attantion of Ra to Earth in the first place... Maybe the Goa'uld still had Unas host (and Ra had an Asgard host), then they swapped to humans as they were weakened by the Titans (or the returning Merlin).

    The only reason I am not so sure when Merlin and his knights were active as it sounds weird that a mediaval civilization searched through the galaxy, but Earth was still in ancient times.... You know it feels that the "descension" of Merlin should happen after Ra has left Earth. While the whole Giant aliens story should happen only after in America. This official timeline is confusing.

    Other story idea which could be connected to the Omoroca storyline:
    I was wondering what would happen if ex-Goa'uld could meet on Earth. Imagine a conversation between Vala (Quetesh), hostBaal (Baal), Charlotte Mayfield (Athena) and dr. Sarah Gardner (Osiris). Maybe Athena would try to capture the 3 exhosts to find some unfinished business. It could be even a revenge story how Osiris and Isis were locked up or how could Hathor end up in America...
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    I have found these drawing on the wikipedia. Vilnisr made an amazing job:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...y_stargate.png
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_stargate.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starga...y_stargate.png

    Resource:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_(device)

    It is so good that we can compare the gate in these drawings.

    * * *

    I was a bit bored, so I deleted the MW glyphs and I've kept the empty gate as a model.

    So I have made an Asgard gate with norse runes glyphs:
    https://tamm-assets.top-fan.com/9e3f...46c87_full.jpg
    Maybe there could be a triangle Mjölnir motive on every chevron or on the main one at 12 o'clock. I had to add additional runes as I haven't had enough for 38 glyphs. I was not aware that even a rune called "Othala" exists.
    https://previews.123rf.com/images/zg...-letters-o.jpg

    And an Oannes gate with cuneiform glyphs:
    https://tamm-assets.top-fan.com/2ea5...90ab7_full.jpg
    But the main credits goes to Vilnisr as I have just played with his work.

    * * *

    I have made an Ori stargate as an original drawing by myself :
    https://www.stargatecommand.co/forum...tml&k=b4ff8e7b

    Well. At least I tried, please don't laugh, I haven't got a calliper at home. I haven't drawned anything for ages.

    I was thinking whether use the oval shape of the Ori or the original round shape should be kept. So the original round one has won, but that is the reason why is no inner decoration on the top.

    Then I decided to use the Ori symbols will be the chevrons, while the Ori symbol glyphs should be in a spinning outer ring as the inner looking Ori chevrons wouldn't have looked cool with spike standing outside, Maybe the top symbol hould much larger, but then the "staff" part would have been too long. Kawoosh is formed in the middle anyway, so the standing out parts should not influence active event horizont of the wormhole.


    But back the Ori gate.

    The idea came from the Ark of Truth movie. I know that this opened oval shape would have looked better:
    http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/albums/m...OT-BS-0028.jpg
    But then how would it spin? Would there be any "floating deltoid part " between the two edges (holded by energy field ike in their supergate). So I wanted to keep the round form of the original stargate, but the chevrons were directly places assymetrical, so the bottom and top part have got bigger distance. And as I said before that is the reason the inner ring hasn't got the decoration on the top. The other reason is that I have seen this painting on the wall :
    http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/albums/m...OT-BS-0008.jpg
    But probably this is about a conquest about the infidels in Milky Way, as the minimalistic Stargate looks like an MW gate. They have sent the Prior through the stargate and even the Beachhead pieces, so they must have at least one working "normal" stargate. Maybe they spied on the Ancients, or they have seen the route of the seeing ships across the universe, so they could have meet with the stargate technology anywhere in the galaxy. They even had their own ring transports as well.

    The whole Ori gate is my little obsession to see some adventure in the Ori galaxy, just to see the aftermath of the fall of Adria and the Ori. Maybe some hostile forces would like to learn how to build more supergates, so Tommin and his people would be in danger etc.

    By the way I would like to mention that there were two different supergates in season 9. One of them is the normal Beachhead, when the pieces came through the normal stargate, but the Camelot supergate was much bigger. You can see the size difference, when Carter was standing on it.

    As I wrote it in my own little brainstorming thread here:
    https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/...galaxy-in-2020
    "One of them could be like a "transformers" type of gate. The gate would like a normal gate, but with a special function it could extend itself. There would be some folded gate parts between the chevron parts (like a folded tape measure), but then it could enlarge itself. So slightly bigger ships (like a tel'tac or alkesh) could fit into it. So if we count the scales, then Orlin gate is size 1, normal stargate size 2, this one would be the "medium" size 3, the beachhead gate is size 4 and the supergate is size 5.

    The other would be a bit similar. In this case the chevrons would be put together by an energy shield, similar to the beachead gates or supergates. There wouldn't be a normal spinning on this one, but we could find out a creative way how to dial it. Probably this idea could work in an other galaxy or maybe as an Ori stargate."

    I imagined the Ori gate with the same colour like most of the Ori staff. So the gate should be white or light grey, with black symbols on it. Maybe the inner ring could be this gold colour with black motives like in the movie. The Ori symbol as chevrons would be completely white (the buttons would be purple). Locking wise I had more ideas:

    1. The symbol of the outer ring would be "copied" between the little oval shape and it would like like a red projection on smoke,

    2. The chevron could turn around by the purple button, so the 7 symbol Ori symbol would look into the puddle.

    3. As a defense mechanism, the staff part could be extended as a barrier what would create a force field type thing.

    4. Or after chevron activation the staff part would pull up itself so it wouldn't disturb the forming puddle.

    The wormhole could be a flame wall. That would represent that power of the Ori in the galaxy. The watery event horizont was in Ancient controlled space, while here would be like a flame wall. (like in AoT). Or simply the event horizont would be orange or yellowish instead of blue, That would still express same thing that these gates are / were in Ori controlled space.

    As you can see I have got a concept, I hope you can follow me.
    Last edited by Platschu; August 14th, 2018 at 04:19 AM.
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    Story idea :

    The future vulture
    The team meets a traveller who has just arrived through the stargate. At first he would pretend like he doesn't remember what is going on and who he is, but then the team would find out that he was trapped in the memory of the gate system as three stargates were calling each other. Planet A called B, B called C then C called A and then the circle repeated itself and he never materialized as he stayed in the memory system. Then later we would find it out that it was not an accident, but he is a proper time traveller (and maybe a war criminal like Linea), so he used this method to escape from his timeline and he hoped that soon it or later somebody will break the circle and he can return into life in the distant future.

    This idea could work with any ally or enemy as well....
    Last edited by Platschu; August 10th, 2018 at 12:31 PM.
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