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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    Seth is actually the biggest mystery in the whole of the stargate universe. He had 5,000 years living on earth with access to a tonne of Go'uld technology. An yet he was only ever able to gain a few hundred followers, pathetic. He could have rule this planet, with a bit of effort.
    Don't remind me how crap they made Seth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
    Yeah looks they did indeed make an error here, but not a huge one. As good as SG1 was with continuity, even it got stuff wrong from time to time. Can Teal'c sense Goa'uld or not? Was Jacob host to Selmack for 4 years or 6 years? Which Galaxy are the Asgard in again?

    I've realised SGO does actually fill a hole in the continuity, we never saw in the series how the Goa'uld brainwash people - maybe they are using the same kind of Kara'kesh Aset had.
    He can only sense those Goauld who have Naquadah in their blood (not all of them do)

    years are different on different planet, so maybe that's what caused the confusion with the number of years.

    the Asgard may have colonies in more than one galaxy (some of them were even in the Pegasus galaxy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
    Yeah looks they did indeed make an error here, but not a huge one. As good as SG1 was with continuity, even it got stuff wrong from time to time. Can Teal'c sense Goa'uld or not? Was Jacob host to Selmack for 4 years or 6 years? Which Galaxy are the Asgard in again?

    I've realised SGO does actually fill a hole in the continuity, we never saw in the series how the Goa'uld brainwash people - maybe they are using the same kind of Kara'kesh Aset had.
    I think it was inferred to be mostly chemical, sometimes combined with torture.

    In any case, we can always assume there are many ways to brainwash someone

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
    Don't remind me how crap they made Seth
    Are you referring to how "pathetic" he looked? Remember he was trying to keep a low profile. Since other Goa'uld visited Earth from time to time he could have been found out if he was supreme ruler of the entire planet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Grin View Post
    He can only sense those Goauld who have Naquadah in their blood (not all of them do)

    years are different on different planet, so maybe that's what caused the confusion with the number of years.

    the Asgard may have colonies in more than one galaxy (some of them were even in the Pegasus galaxy)
    I agree with all of this. SG-1 did create inconsistencies over the years, but most of them also got explained somehow later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    Yet in the film we see her shred a tear which didn't seem fake to me. May be Aset was weak from the cloning and that tear came from the host.
    To create a Harsisis the Symbiote has to let the Host take control for nine months. That means observing only, no controlling anything. I think the experience leaves a mark, making the Symbiote more "compassionate", and the host now has more control/influence than other hosts as well (Same happened with Ammunet and Shauri)


    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    Seth is actually the biggest mystery in the whole of the stargate universe. He had 5,000 years living on earth with access to a tonne of Go'uld technology. An yet he was only ever able to gain a few hundred followers, pathetic. He could have rule this planet, with a bit of effort.
    I think he didn't want to be subjected to the hate that Ra ended up with. He lived down low with a few followers and didn't try to amass an army because he feared being over thrown. Given his fear I don't think he PUT a big effort into it. I mean the first few generations would have stories passed down on how evil Ra was and to fight back was now in their blood. Then the Israelite's were hunting down those who claimed to be gods, Dark Ages had a huge fear of witchcraft and ungodly powers.
    Plus he never knew when Ra would come back and I'm sure Seth feared his wrath if he was visible and easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshi_Reed View Post
    I think he didn't want to be subjected to the hate that Ra ended up with. He lived down low with a few followers and didn't try to amass an army because he feared being over thrown.
    Yea i got the impression he was just happy to have a few followers and not bother with ruling an empire. Especially since it could indeed attract either uprisings or Ra's wrath.

    The goa'uld can rule the galaxy because of enslaved jaffa, so if Seth lacked those (and he did), he also may have realized that it would be hard to subjugate a world like that. Considering Earth has no naquahdah and the gate was buried, it would also be hard for him to rule with superior technology.

    All in all, i think Seth just didn't think it was worth the trouble and was perfectly happy with his personal cult and easy lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
    Yeah looks they did indeed make an error here, but not a huge one. As good as SG1 was with continuity, even it got stuff wrong from time to time. Can Teal'c sense Goa'uld or not? Was Jacob host to Selmack for 4 years or 6 years? Which Galaxy are the Asgard in again?
    Jacob was host to Selmak from Season 2 to Season 8 - 6 years. I'm thinking he made a reference to "4 years ago" when he and the team were all prisoners in Jolinar's Memories and The Devil You Know (seasons 3 and 4), and he didn't think he was going to make it out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedwig View Post
    Jacob was host to Selmak from Season 2 to Season 8 - 6 years. I'm thinking he made a reference to "4 years ago" when he and the team were all prisoners in Jolinar's Memories and The Devil You Know (seasons 3 and 4), and he didn't think he was going to make it out alive.
    I was referring to Threads where Carter says he was only host for 4 years

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    The yellow eyes could have explained if the hosts were "Enkarans" (SG-1 season 4 Scorched Earth)...
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    i agree that would have been a really good tie in.

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    I knew that Selkhet / Serqet's name was familiar. She was the Goa'uld sent by Ba'al to negotiate with Lord Yu when RepliCarter attacked.
    http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Selkhet
    http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Serqet
    Maybe she changed host. Anyway her fate is sealed then officially.

    Mythological background :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serket
    https://www.ancient.eu/Serket/
    http://www.landofpyramids.org/selket.htm
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    Just a random question. If the Stargate was located in Aset's temple / palace, then how could they move it into the pyramid later? Because I am guessing the pyramid was standing there already, but would the Stargate fit through the narrow corridors?

    * * *

    Second question is rather a mini fanfiction idea. What if Bael was revived by Ra and he was made to be a Goa'uld host? It could have been weird if he meets with SG-1 a few decades later. And if this step could have happened then Ra would know enough about Earth and its defenses.
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    5. Catherine's age - dialogue in TOT implies that Catherine was 21 in 1945, which would make her 15 in SGO

    Quote Originally Posted by TTOT
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    The military had very little use for a 21-year-old girl at that time. Neither did my father. I only know what little I overheard him and Ernest talking about.


    However this would also make her 4 years old in the Giza dig scene, which she isn't. So she was probably approximating her age or referring to her age when the research started


    I think this is correct about her referring to her age when the research started. Because she mentioned Pres. Roosevelt who I believe had already died by 1945, hadn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlw View Post
    =However this would also make her 4 years old in the Giza dig scene, which she isn't. So she was probably approximating her age or referring to her age when the research started=
    I see no reason to think that she wasn't 4 years old when the Stargate was unearthed at Giza... in the TV continuity. Sure, you can rationalize it to make both the movie and TV continuities fit together, but they changed a bunch of little things when they adapted the movie and this was one of them. You wouldn't say, "They referred to Jack's son as Charlie in the TV show, but that's wrong because his name is Tyler," and then go on to speculate that maybe his name is "Charlie Tyler O'neil(l)." At least I hope nobody would do that instead of just accepting that it's a difference between continuities.

    Consequently, how old Catherine should be in Origins depends on which continuity they were following.

    I think this is correct about her referring to her age when the research started. Because she mentioned Pres. Roosevelt who I believe had already died by 1945, hadn't he?
    You are indeed correct that she said 21 during the 1945 experiments. As for Roosevelt, he died in April 1945, two months after attending the Yalta Conference.
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