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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
    I think we were all hoping for something better than a mind wipe....

    Also, given how light heated and comedic this show was in tone - most of the characters ended up with pretty dark fates.
    Very true, the contrast is pretty shocking actually. It's like everything was wrapped-up in a hurry after slowing down the narrative in episodes 3-7.

    Quote Originally Posted by knowles2 View Post
    An one wonder why RA, knowing the earth is out there, heavily populated with billions of people and have clearly advance technology would just leave it alone to further advance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
    The mission files have something to say about Ra not ever returning to Earth. Essentially he had a fear about returning to the place of his greatest defeat/embarrassment. Though "publicly" the reason was that it wasn't worth the man power for a planet with no naquadah
    Yeah, although a big "shaky" for an explanation, I believe everything resides on the fact he doesn't know Earth's population. Had he known we were 2 billions, I'm sure he would have shifted his priorities a little bit. We would have turned out to be worthy of his interest.

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    I'll agree with the group that the brainwashing was predictable and the easiest way out of the corner to save continuity. I also was stunned at how dark the finale was for everyone, including the Langfords. I still feel like the show would have been better without the Nazis at all; I was relieved when all were finally dead. Origins was an interesting experiment and had its moments, but I'm hoping for a lot more if we get another series at some point in the future. Still, it did get us all talking about Stargate again!

    I also wrote a review of the last three episodes on my blog (plus a little bit on #StargateRising) in case you're interested:

    http://www.ptsnob.com/2018/03/starga...odes-8-10.html

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    Well slightly predictable, but I'm still glad to watch new Stargate even if it did feel like watching fan fiction.

    Is that the first f bomb in Stargate history too? Seems to be the in thing nowadays, take these family type shows, turn them really dark and throw in an f bomb or two to keep in with the kool kids. Maybe the baby is for a future storyline should the show be renewed, but continuous mind wipes to keep continuity is going to get old pretty quick.

    What happened to the Nazi women film maker, did she cop it too off screen?

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    Aset’s Bodyguard shot her before Ra showed up I think.

    Pretty sure the baby was in the temple with Aset with Ra nuked it too

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    Yeah I thought that too, doesn't mean the baby didn't survive though.

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    1. Why wouldn't Ra - with the knowledge that the Tau'ri have reopened their stargate - send an army though the gate to retake Earth? Or why wouldn't he send a couple of mother ships to Earth to wipe them out? Opening the gate shows humanity is becoming a threat. Why wouldn't Ra do something about it?

    2. This episode is the prime example of why prequels aren't good. It spends most of its run time lazily and sloppily trying to justify everything with continuity and connect things to the movie and it feels so completely forced. Also Catherine having her mind wiped during the climax is bad writing straight up. Making your main character completely passive during the climax is not something you want to do.

    3. Are we to believe that Wasif and the other guy become Anubis and whatshisname from the movie? Lol, okay.

    4. What a waste of time. I hate to be so negative here, but there's nothing really for me to like about this. It's poorly written, poorly made, and it was made with little regard to established continuity. The mind wipe doesn't even solve the continuity issues completely as I pointed with Ra knowing Earth's gate is open but does nothing about it.

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    Ra was supposed to be busy keeping the other System Lords in line and fighting with the Asgard.

    I think Wasif and the other guy are the first of his human guards, not necessarily the ones from the movie though

    The mission files cover some of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightsyder View Post
    Ra was supposed to be busy keeping the other System Lords in line and fighting with the Asgard.

    I think Wasif and the other guy are the first of his human guards, not necessarily the ones from the movie though

    The mission files cover some of this
    I admit I haven't been reading the mission files, but their existence and the fact that they seem to 'explain' a lot of the inconsistencies and whatnot tells me that the PTB were aware of some of the more problematic elements and chose not to care. They could explain it away in supplemental material so why bother doing it right?

    As for Ra being too busy with the Asgard and the other System Lords, he could have sent a naquadah bomb through and took care of any potential threat from Earth forever. No muss no fuss. So I don't buy that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major_Griff View Post
    As for Ra being too busy with the Asgard and the other System Lords, he could have sent a naquadah bomb through and took care of any potential threat from Earth forever. No muss no fuss. So I don't buy that at all.
    Why would he want to do that?
    He's just postponing for later... He doesn't want to destroy, he want to take advantage of. More slaves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerem View Post
    Why would he want to do that?
    He's just postponing for later... He doesn't want to destroy, he want to take advantage of. More slaves!
    For the same reason he plans on doing that in the original movie…

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    Which, yes in the movie Earth possessing the power of nuclear weapons makes it more urgent for Ra to wipe us out, but still I think having guns and opening the gate show that Earth has become a threat. Also, even if he wanted to use Earth for more slaves/hosts, in the 50 something years betwixt the events of Origins and the movie you're telling me he couldn't do something about this? He just let it go until it came back to bite him? Also you can lob a bomb through the gate to burry or possibly destroy it to keep Earth from causing any trouble until you can get to it.

    It's ridiculous that Ra wouldn't do anything about this.

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    Perhaps 50 years is a short time for somebody who lives thousands of years.

    I agree it doesn't seem likely nothing would happen over the 50 years now that we've revealed ourselves, but not strictly impossible either.

    I mean, you could make the same argument as to why we've been left alone since 3000 B.C. Hasn't anyone taken the time to check upon us during ALL that time?

    At this point, perhaps it's better to continue the same plothole

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    It's weaksauce. They should have kept Ra out of this completely. I could almost swallow the memory wipe filth if they didn't create such a glaring issue.

    As for why Earth was left alone since 3000 BC, Ra didn't see us as being worth the trouble once the rebellion happened. With the gate out of action, there was no way for Earth to cause any problems, and I think at least in the Stargate universe, it's not a given that humans will advance as far as Earth did when left alone. We see plenty of planets in SG-1 who have been left alone by the Goa'uld but that don't advance to Earth level or beyond.

    But once you're confronted with the fact that Earth has figured out the gate and has advanced beyond bows and arrows for weapons, I think they'd have your attention.

    I mean we can go back and forth on this all we want, at the end of the day they should have never brought Ra into this, or at least kept him in the dark about the visitors from Earth.

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    Everything after Ra’s arrival happened waaaaaay too quickly. Blink and you might miss something—not that you will be missing much of anything pleasant to what happened to the majority of characters.

    On another note, here is a wiki photo name and caption which made me chuckle: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/File:...iacal_look.png
    "Serqet's crazy maniacal look before murdering Beal" A bit editorial and spoilery for those looking at the wiki, but true. I liked the costumes of the Goa’uld, but am glad I made sure to make the costume thread I made about them be about their costumes and not them.

    Serqet was no friend to Aset and Aset should have seen that coming (but didn't seem to think twice with Brucke either).
    EDIT: Also, now we know what the hook was for at the end of Serqet's staff-- to keep Beal from going through the gate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-S View Post
    What happened to the Nazi women film maker, did she cop it too off screen?
    I interpreted the camera coming to a stop as symbolic of the story of her life being over. It was one of the eerier moments I will remember about the movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-S View Post
    Yeah I thought that too, doesn't mean the baby didn't survive though.
    That would be pretty bad to not have had some sort of plan to get her baby to safety. I kept waiting for her to send her baby through the gate with her quiet human attendant. She had so many plans for everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by lightsyder View Post
    I think Wasif and the other guy are the first of his human guards, not necessarily the ones from the movie though
    The ones from the movie had different ethnic looks, didn’t they? If they were not Jaffa, I figured he must just churn through the guards.

    EDIT: One more thing: I sure hope Professor Langford's memory wipe didn't take away too much of his knowledge of the old language. He kind of needs some of that for his job.
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    I really disliked the series as a whole.

    Being a prequel it was obvious that everything would have to be reset to the movie starting point.
    Which started me off with nice negative feelings.

    I really disliked Catherine. She was so antagonistic towards everyone, even the man she is romantically involved in. They're trying to get her to slow down and come up with a plan but she bites their heads off.
    I suppose it's normal to want to get your father back but somehow threatening the people with guns to your head doesn't seem like the way to go.

    As others have said the fight choreography was a joke.
    The bad humour was wrong.
    It made me feel like it was a Dr Who episode.
    Nobody seemed the take their situation seriously.

    Why was the baby in so many scenes?
    Is it normal to take your baby to a negotiation with a man who is clearly nuts?

    The shots from Ra's ship at the end made me laugh.
    His guns are THAT weak?
    He made two tiny holes in the roof and blew up a tent.
    He should be leaving two smoking craters like a meteorite hit.

    Eight out of ten if it was a fanfilm.
    One out of ten for a studio production.
    What's the deal with the retardedly huge sigs?!
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