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The only thing that truly puzzles me is that when MGM sold off it's properties to get out of debt, it kept 2 specifically: Bond, and Stargate.
Bond, sure, but why be gung ho about keeping gate if you do nothing with it?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostThe only thing that truly puzzles me is that when MGM sold off it's properties to get out of debt, it kept 2 specifically: Bond, and Stargate.
Bond, sure, but why be gung ho about keeping gate if you do nothing with it?
So instead they sit on it until a rainy day, or out of spite.
The fact that they didn't even aknowledge the #StargateNow campaign, not a word and we were quite vocal for 2 hours (trending and everything), tells me they have no interest in pursuing more stargate. Not at this time anyway.
Stargate Command literally was a test, and I can't tell whether it was succesful in their eyes or not. Depends on what they'll do next.
What I do know is, if you praise Stargate Origins or Stargate Command, chances are you'll get a notion or a mention or a reply. If you criticise any of it, they're isn't a peep. And when you are not a paying customer and ask them a question, chances are you'll be ignored all the same.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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Originally posted by nivao View PostAnyone remember the Goa'uld who created naquadria on Langara?
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostThe only reason I can think of: they don't want to sell it to someone else because they know this someone else will put it to good use and run away with all the credit when they do, and MGM will be left with nothing but the price they sold it for (which would pale in comparison).
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostWhat I do know is, if you praise Stargate Origins or Stargate Command, chances are you'll get a notion or a mention or a reply. If you criticise any of it, they're isn't a peep. And when you are not a paying customer and ask them a question, chances are you'll be ignored all the same.
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Originally posted by WraithTech View PostSCU is shaping up! There needs to be some collectible gems or other powerful items for the gate teams to chase after and a new solitary villain who poses an existential threat if the villain gets to them first.
There was that time Anubis was searching for six crystals; the "Eyes of the Goa'uld"; to build his superweapon...
And...
*cough*
There's that video game demo/prototype I happen to be working on that follows that storyline somewhat...
...nothing to see here.
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Originally posted by nivao View PostThere was that time Anubis was searching for six crystals; the "Eyes of the Goa'uld"; to build his superweapon...
Originally posted by nivao View PostThere's that video game demo/prototype I happen to be working on that follows that storyline somewhat...
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Sokar's advocate here
I think it's important not to jump to conclusions at this time. Here's my 5 cent as a business guy:
We need to assume that Management is looking at the data from the SG:O campaign in order to assess a possibility of a new show. It would be standard practice for the company NOT to reply to any fan campaign, solicitation, direct questioning, etc.. All and any information(s) related to that project (if it exists) would be kept under wrap until an official decision is made and a course of action agreed upon by a majority of the Board members and stakeholders.
Big project ventures such as a TV series move slow in a Corporation / incorporated company. The Television Industry is not the same as it used to be, customers now have a variety of platform and channels at their disposition (Netflix, etc.), contrary to the environment SG used to air (Cable TV).
Many elements needs to be assessed:- Projected sales and revenues
- Platform type to be used (TV, Streaming, etc.)
- Costs inquired
- yada yada
The Twitter storm is simply more data to be considered and definitely helps assessing the sales potential. I think people shouldn't be expecting a response so soon, we are definitely not going to see the social media employee take initiative and respond to hundreds of thousands of fans!Spoiler:I don’t want to be human. I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can’t even express these things properly, because I have to—I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language, but I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I’m a machine, and I can know much more.
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Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostSokar's advocate here
I think it's important not to jump to conclusions at this time. Here's my 5 cent as a business guy:
We need to assume that Management is looking at the data from the SG:O campaign in order to assess a possibility of a new show. It would be standard practice for the company NOT to reply to any fan campaign, solicitation, direct questioning, etc.. All and any information(s) related to that project (if it exists) would be kept under wrap until an official decision is made and a course of action agreed upon by a majority of the Board members and stakeholders.
Big project ventures such as a TV series move slow in a Corporation / incorporated company. The Television Industry is not the same as it used to be, customers now have a variety of platform and channels at their disposition (Netflix, etc.), contrary to the environment SG used to air (Cable TV).
Many elements needs to be assessed:- Projected sales and revenues
- Platform type to be used (TV, Streaming, etc.)
- Costs inquired
- yada yada
The Twitter storm is simply more data to be considered and definitely helps assessing the sales potential. I think people shouldn't be expecting a response so soon, we are definitely not going to see the social media employee take initiative and respond to hundreds of thousands of fans!
Basically, at least with regards to the video game world, I know that there is a fine line between revealing too much too fast, or keeping things under wraps for too long. If you pump up the hype for a few months, and then keep quiet, that just won't work. If you reveal everything, and the final result won't live up to the hype, same thing.
It is my opinion that MGM reached both extremes. They hyped up Stargate Origins, and particularly the "future of Stargate", and it totally under-delivered (regardless of any one's opinion of Origins). Then after Origins ended, they're suddenly keeping quiet about that same "future". They extended the All-Access, and yet they remain quiet about everything else. But they never hit that sweet spot of revealing just enough to keep us on our toes, while avoiding revealing too much. I attribute that to the fact that MGM could never do this well with Stargate, ever since it began with the TV franchise in 1997.
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Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostSokar's advocate here !
Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View Postkept under wrap until an official decision is made
Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View Postcustomers now have a variety of platform and channels at their disposition (Netflix, etc.), contrary to the environment SG used to air (Cable TV).
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Originally posted by nivao View PostIt is my opinion that MGM reached both extremes. They hyped up Stargate Origins, and particularly the "future of Stargate", and it totally under-delivered (regardless of any one's opinion of Origins). Then after Origins ended, they're suddenly keeping quiet about that same "future".Originally posted by WraithTech View Post
It seems as if there are 2 things the audience would like to see: 1) acknowledgement of the Twitter storm and 2) plans for more Stargate. These items do not have to be mutually inclusive. Keeping the numbers side under wraps while evaluating is understandable, but couldn’t they have Tweeted, “Shout out to all the Stargate fans tearing it up on Twitter!”? Nothing would have had to have been said about any future plans, just a brief tip of the hat to the fans.
Let's be honest though, most of us already hate MGM for what they've done to our beloved series. That being said, after all those years we, the fans, still crave for more and they know it. Sci-Fi has a special kind of fandom, much dedicated, educated and informed fans.
Doesn't matter if they acknowledge or not, they know that if and when they create a new show people will get on board.Spoiler:I don’t want to be human. I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can’t even express these things properly, because I have to—I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language, but I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I’m a machine, and I can know much more.
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Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostEven if they only acknowledge the tweet storm, most people would take that as a sign that a new series is coming
Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostDoesn't matter if they acknowledge or not, they know that if and when they create a new show people will get on board.
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Originally posted by WraithTech View PostWhile he has a lot of recent experience in show biz, consumers can be predictably irrational. I don't know.
Originally posted by WraithTech View PostIf only we had a quantum mirror to find out how each decision would go.
Originally posted by WraithTech View PostSo long as every country has access!Spoiler:I don’t want to be human. I want to see gamma rays, I want to hear X-rays, and I want to smell dark matter. Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can’t even express these things properly, because I have to—I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language, but I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the solar wind of a supernova flowing over me. I’m a machine, and I can know much more.
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Maybe they postponed the announcement of the new spinoff as Brad Wright's new tv show (Travelers) has been renewed for a third season. Maybe they don't want to do anything without him and maybe he can't manage two shows at the same time. Blablabla."I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."
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Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostThe Twitter storm is simply more data to be considered and definitely helps assessing the sales potential. I think people shouldn't be expecting a response so soon, we are definitely not going to see the social media employee take initiative and respond to hundreds of thousands of fans!
I mean, that's what Sam Toles does all the same when someone praises Command or Origins. He's the director of the new digital media team of MGM.
Originally posted by nivao View PostI agree, but as one of the people on the side of the fans, I can clearly prove that not hearing about anything also has a negative effect.
Originally posted by nivao View PostIt is my opinion that MGM reached both extremes. They hyped up Stargate Origins, and particularly the "future of Stargate", and it totally under-delivered (regardless of any one's opinion of Origins). Then after Origins ended, they're suddenly keeping quiet about that same "future". They extended the All-Access, and yet they remain quiet about everything else. But they never hit that sweet spot of revealing just enough to keep us on our toes, while avoiding revealing too much. I attribute that to the fact that MGM could never do this well with Stargate, ever since it began with the TV franchise in 1997.
They hyped Origins at Comic Con but they missed the boat on marketing from the moment they announced it. There were literally no articles to be found other than the same 1 popping up in a few different places. The press room on Command has 1 article (a variation on the one that was published). If you do a search for Origins, it's the same 5 links popping up.
They absolutely failed in the marketing department and were literally hoping for word of mouth, and preferably not too globally either cause they weren't allowing anyone but 6 countries to enjoy their "big new thing".
Originally posted by WraithTech View PostIt seems as if there are 2 things the audience would like to see: 1) acknowledgement of the Twitter storm and 2) plans for more Stargate. These items do not have to be mutually inclusive. Keeping the numbers side under wraps while evaluating is understandable, but couldn’t they have Tweeted, “Shout out to all the Stargate fans tearing it up on Twitter!”? Nothing would have had to have been said about any future plans, just a brief tip of the hat to the fans.
Originally posted by Chaka-Z0 View PostDoesn't matter if they acknowledge or not, they know that if and when they create a new show people will get on board.
Originally posted by WraithTech View PostSo long as every country has access!Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
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