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    We're not arguing... Just a few frustrations that went loose.

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    Can we expect anything from the Chicago convention in June? It looks like lots of actors will be there as part of the 25th anniversary of Stargate. I know it won't happen, but if they would announce anything then this con would be one of the best time.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    Can we expect anything from the Chicago convention in June? It looks like lots of actors will be there as part of the 25th anniversary of Stargate. I know it won't happen, but if they would announce anything then this con would be one of the best time.
    You can expect whatever you want. But me.....I've stopped doing so. If I were a betting man - which I'm not - my money would be on lots of buzz, followed by lots of disappointment. MGM doesn't care about Stargate, MGM doesn't care about the fans. They're not going to not announce anything, just make more hollow promises. Case closed. My recommendation....re-watch the old shows, then move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    Can we expect anything from the Chicago convention in June? It looks like lots of actors will be there as part of the 25th anniversary of Stargate. I know it won't happen, but if they would announce anything then this con would be one of the best time.
    The only reason there are a lot of actors is because it's one of the biggest stargate conventions in the US, and it's a Creation convention. They always have a guest line-up that's high end. They have the money for it.

    Don't expect anything "official" because as always MGM is not involved here. It's once again Legion M that is bringing Stargate Command along, to share a booth with as a "vendor". Here's the explanation from the Creation website:

    Stargate Command: The Year of the Gate

    With this special program, Stargate Command – the ultimate fan community for all things Stargate -- brings a retrospective of the past 25 years, including exclusive clips and never-before-seen footage! Hosted by Jenny Stiven, there will be anecdotes and stories from all three series -- and all three movies. Plus, there may also be surprise guests, so stay tuned! (Day TBD)


    It's the same old, same old ... stuff...
    Stargate Command is an illusion and 189 countries have that figured out already. There's 6 who have yet to find out, but probably will never do. So long as they get their "exclusive access" they are blind as a bat to what is happening outside of their little bubble.

    And what's outside is not pretty... not pretty at all.
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    Don't worry, I also don't expect anything this stage. Shame. Shame. Shame.
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    "MGM Open To More Stargate Depending on Success of Stargate Origins and SGC"

    Well from what I read here, Stargate Origins was NOT a success, mainly due to bad marketing in a bid to chase the almighty dollar. And SGC is just one big joke, a very sick joke that nobody is laughing at.

    So I have given up on seeing anymore REAL Stargate that continues the canon.
    We may get some sort of reboot that will not be the same, that will just ruin everything.
    But as long as they leave it long enough for people to forget the true Stargate, nobody will know, & nobody will care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    Don't worry, I also don't expect anything this stage. Shame. Shame. Shame.
    It's in June right?

    Maybe we can place a bet...

    Obviously there won't be anything new so instead we'll bet on what will be repeated.
    Are there going to be "superfans"?

    So, I'm going to say they will have exclusive pins (like they did at Wondercon) which are only available at the convention itself, they will have that idiotic gate with them for photos (while they could have had the French gaters come in and set up an actual portal -- MGM is seriously missing out there. They should take a page out of Disney/Lucasfilm's handling of fans building props and sets -- I'm biased, I know, and we are very lucky, I know). There will be a panel raving about Command's exclusive Dial Home/Recon/whatever else there is that most don't have access to.

    And the crown jewel -- no expansion... because blah blah blah [fill in blanks with whatever reason you think they don't want to give].

    Oh, and more raving about the superfans nobody knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    https://www.gateworld.net/news/2018/...te-convention/

    According to the GW, the announcement could happen on Saturday. Maybe we should make an announcement bingo:

    - nothing
    - nothing, but "we are working on it"
    - nothing, but "we tried to work on it"
    - nothing, but the **** SyFy sabotaged it
    - Jaffa stories by CJ
    - new Origins season or seasons
    - new mini-series from BW
    - new spin-off from BW
    - new SG movies with the combined cast of SG-1/Atlantis/Universe from BW

    etc.

    Then probably we will hear more about the furute of SG:C as they are planning to extend the service. If we are lucky it will be available in 7 countries instead of 6.
    It looks like this bingo is almost accurate. Here is the right one :

    - nothing
    - nothing, but "we are working on it"
    - nothing, but "we tried to work on it"
    - nothing, but the **** SyFy sabotaged it
    Yep. The other answers are out of the game.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

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    Bingo cards will be provided. This is gonna be fun.
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    Breaking my rule not to post, but this latest news really hits many nerves.

    MGM is planning a Boy George biopic along with settling the Vegas shooting which is costing Millions. I doubt there will be any money left over for Stargate.
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    A big studio stands on multiply legs, so they won't invest all of their money just into one tv project. If they really wanted to revive Stargate they could have done it any time. A simple 90minutes pilot could cost "only" 5-10-15 million dollars which shouldn't be a problem for such a studio like MGM. Then if the pilot is received well then they could invest more money into a mini-series or bigger 13 or 20 episode seasons....
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScifigirlSG View Post
    MGM is planning a Boy George biopic along with settling the Vegas shooting which is costing Millions. I doubt there will be any money left over for Stargate.
    If they wanted to seriously invest into Stargate, they would have done that already around the time Stargate Origins ended or was "airing". They missed that momentum gigantically. Therefore it is my firm believe they have no interest in bringing stargate back to the TV-medium, or online streaming on their platform.

    Heck they even left American Mythology hanging... if that isn't proof enough to anyone that they have zero interest in investing money into a franchise they claim is one of their most precious ones, I don't know what else there is left to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    If they wanted to seriously invest into Stargate, they would have done that already around the time Stargate Origins ended or was "airing". They missed that momentum gigantically. Therefore it is my firm believe they have no interest in bringing stargate back to the TV-medium, or online streaming on their platform.

    Heck they even left American Mythology hanging... if that isn't proof enough to anyone that they have zero interest in investing money into a franchise they claim is one of their most precious ones, I don't know what else there is left to say.
    What I'm suspecting is that MGM ''analysts'' probably did a couple surveys and deemed a SG project non-profitable. There is tons of sci-fi right now both on small and big screen and their conclusions must be: we're too small of a player to shine in the spotlight. The risk would be too great.

    What I say is this: Stargate is a unique sci-fi. There is nothing similar really, most sci-fi's happen in the future or some distant planets whereas SG is earth-based in our present time with present technology (with a few bonus the SG:C found on the way of course ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka-Z0 View Post
    What I'm suspecting is that MGM ''analysts'' probably did a couple surveys and deemed a SG project non-profitable. There is tons of sci-fi right now both on small and big screen and their conclusions must be: we're too small of a player to shine in the spotlight. The risk would be too great.
    Also, deliberately closing your doors to all fans, would probably also not help in expanding that tiny group... but that would be their loss, which they obviously deem acceptable.
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    After a long and arduous process, I've finally managed to get back on the new SGC site. Don't know why though. I had to reset my password, and it now requires you to log in with email rather than username. That took a long time to fix. Moreover, I use LastPass to store my passwords, and due to the URL the login page uses, it thinks I'm on the Nvidia site (because both sites use "auth0", which appears as the base URL), so that's annoying.

    Oh, and the Feed is gone. No more "like-Twitter-but-it-sucks" forum, instead we got a Discussions page where no one can post anything except to comment or "suggest" new discussions. It could be argued that's a bit better, since the Feed was mostly horrendous, but now there is no official forum anymore (unless, you know, it's hidden behind the All Access curtain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickEast View Post
    I had to reset my password, and it now requires you to log in with email rather than username.
    Caught that bit on twitter just a few minutes ago. Wanted to come by and mention it, but you beat me to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NickEast View Post
    Oh, and the Feed is gone. No more "like-Twitter-but-it-sucks" forum, instead we got a Discussions page where no one can post anything except to comment or "suggest" new discussions. It could be argued that's a bit better, since the Feed was mostly horrendous, but now there is no official forum anymore (unless, you know, it's hidden behind the All Access curtain)
    If there's no "forum" or "feed", there basically is nothing left for no-access members.
    If there's a "forum" hidden in all-access, they can pretty much close up shop soon.

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    Haven't gone around to check the "new upgrade" but apparently you can get "sorted" into a faction now... unless that's an all-access only thing since you didn't mention it, Nick.
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    Oh, and I did some checking. The first three episodes of SG:O, which were free for everyone, are no longer free. As far as I decided to check, only the first two Dialing Home episodes (with Chris), and the first episode of "Recon" are available to all. And there is no way to discern what is free and what requires All-Access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickEast View Post
    Oh, and I did some checking. The first three episodes of SG:O, which were free for everyone, are no longer free. As far as I decided to check, only the first two Dialing Home episodes (with Chris), and the first episode of "Recon" are available to all. And there is no way to discern what is free and what requires All-Access.
    Great...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickEast View Post
    Oh, and the Feed is gone. No more "like-Twitter-but-it-sucks" forum, instead we got a Discussions page where no one can post anything except to comment or "suggest" new discussions. It could be argued that's a bit better, since the Feed was mostly horrendous, but now there is no official forum anymore (unless, you know, it's hidden behind the All Access curtain)
    I've just come to a startling realization ... in this format, Jack_ONeill_SG-1 can no longer post the updates and newsbits he's always sharing, nor can Platschu continue the quiz's. I mean, if posting new discussions is no longer possible.

    I predict eminent death in 3...2...1...
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