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    Default Re: MGM Open To More Stargate Depending on Success of Stargate Origins and SGC

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    Wow.... those "Original Gater" titles are really rubbing it in now...
    My precious title.... Don't worry, I couldn't be bribed so easily. I was just wondering what it is and why have I deserved it. Then I looked around and almost everyone got it regardless the number of post or comments or followers. While other All-Access fans haven't got it at all (like SuperMom). Who understand it? It is as chaotic and random like the app itself.
    Last edited by Platschu; December 3rd, 2018 at 06:41 PM.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

    "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

    "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    My precious title.... Don't worry, I couldn't be bribed so easily. I was just wondering what it is and why have I deserved it. Then I looked around and almost everyone got it regardless the number of post or comments or followes. While other All-Access fans haven't got it at all (like SuperMom). Who understand it? It is as chaotic and random like the app itself.
    It's definitely linked to All-access and I do think Moose has a point it's to do with the "founding member" thing. They did say there would be "special" things coming for all-access members who re-upped earlier or whatever.

    I'll check the code tomorrow ... err... later today... ...see if I can find a pattern to it.

    But the case remains, this is not the place I want to continue spending time. I was already a third class passenger -- this just firmly puts everyone else it the "do-not-want" list for all we can assume. I hate those people so much right now. They don't have to show their faces at me anymore -- they are a disgrace to fandom in general.
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    Default Re: MGM Open To More Stargate Depending on Success of Stargate Origins and SGC

    I just did a quick check in the code. The icon is classified as "verified user", while those still with a SGC All-access title are simple classified as "subscription" so you're basically a cooler user than everyone else right now.
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    Default Re: MGM Open To More Stargate Depending on Success of Stargate Origins and SGC

    I know I should also abadon the place. No logic reasons, begging, campaigns, group suggestions or anything else can change their mind. They are not even talking to the fans anymore. No statement, no announcement, nothing. Even the All-Access is good only for streaming as there are hardly any articles. They have made a series about the gods, the bad guys, the races, but that is all. Most of them are poorly written. I don't care too much about the comics. They have added some extra videos, but I believe most of them were DVD extras. So nothing exciting or new. Soon it or later everone will give up. I have already invested so much free time and energy, but it is not my job to entertain and magically to maintain the decreasing attention and hype. And they are not even bothered to make any official statement. Unacceptable.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

    "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

    "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."


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    See, at this point, I think it bothers me the most that they are huddling in the depths of virtual space. It feels like they are hiding (I'd be hiding too if I were in their shoes).

    Their silence gets on my nerves the most. At least, acknowledge your users in some way other than "we're working on it" or whatever. The continued lack of progress on the Bluetooth speakers is probably sending several off virtual edge too. I mean, how hard can that be for crying out loud.

    Malp-on-a-stick is right: I am the Original Hater of Stargate Command. A title I'm not nearly as proud of as he/she might think.

    I'm just incredibly disappointed in the "community" -- next campaign for anything stargate they can stick where the sun doesn't shine. You want me to show up for your precious franchise, I guess you should have shown up when I asked for help to expand the access. You didn't care then, I don't give a rat's behind about what you want now.

    **Hypothetically speaking IF there ever would be anything remotely "campaign"-like again.
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    Default Re: MGM Open To More Stargate Depending on Success of Stargate Origins and SGC

    Received the email today concerning the Founding Member Pack. It will be shipped the end of December. Gee..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScifigirlSG View Post
    Received the email today concerning the Founding Member Pack. It will be shipped the end of December. Gee..
    Same here. Considering I will get an exclusive patch, I've decided to forgive SGC for Origins and international access.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka-Z0 View Post
    Same here. Considering I will get an exclusive patch, I've decided to forgive SGC for Origins and international access.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    I know I should also abadon the place.
    lol

    If you stop posting, that place will be a ghost town.

    Y’know, the “Original Gater” flair kinda irks me. To me, an “Original Gater” is someone that has followed the franchise from the very beginning. Not someone that pitched in $40 twenty something years later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman View Post
    If you stop posting, that place will be a ghost town.
    It would most certainly be less colorful.

    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman View Post
    Y’know, the “Original Gater” flair kinda irks me. To me, an “Original Gater” is someone that has followed the franchise from the very beginning. Not someone that pitched in $40 twenty something years later.
    This.

    If they had gone with "Founding member" that would still have stung but "Original Gater" is both insulting and irksome.

    However, on the flipside... We're still ascended.

    ...For the time being anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    However, on the flipside... We're still ascended.

    ...For the time being anyway.
    This is actually quite ironic. With all the "ascended" users, there's clearly a divide, just like between the Ancients and Ori. All the All-Access ascended are like the Ancients, they are happy and ignorant. And the rest are the Ori, filled with rage and "hatred" towards the others.

    Hallowed are the Ori.

    Now we just need to build a supergate and burn the place down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nivao View Post
    This is actually quite ironic. With all the "ascended" users, there's clearly a divide, just like between the Ancients and Ori. All the All-Access ascended are like the Ancients, they are happy and ignorant. And the rest are the Ori, filled with rage and "hatred" towards the others.
    To be perfectly fair... the accounts with no access are dwindling rapidly... and apart from a few stragglers, there aren't that many left.

    With the title change, it's also less clear who is a paying member and who isn't. This creates another false image that everyone is "welcome" (in a manner of speaking).

    Quote Originally Posted by nivao View Post
    Hallowed are the Ori.

    Now we just need to build a supergate and burn the place down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman View Post
    lol
    If you stop posting, that place will be a ghost town.
    Ohh thanks. It is good to hear that somebody appreciate it. I have been away for two weeks in November and people asked me if I come back and what happened. It was nice, my little SG ego boost needs such feedback that somebody somewhere is entertained by my enthusiasm Honestly I haven't done anything special, what any other fans couldn't make or follow my path. I have just tried different type of games, a little science reference, my own entertainment of star constellations and a few ideas of fan fictions. I am not really interested in characters, so I can't comment on Daniel or Sheppard posts.

    So that is the reason I have asked a few weeks ago that really for what reason would we like to keep the message board there? I was interested what the fans want regardles if they are all or none access.
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    "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

    "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."


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    I'm going to quietly disappear off the radar... me thinks. Won't be missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    I'm going to quietly disappear off the radar... me thinks. Won't be missed.
    We will. Just ignore the SG:C and stay here with us. Just because the leadership of the app is a joke, you can't give up the love and care for the SG franchise.
    "I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it."

    "Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."

    "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    We will. Just ignore the SG:C and stay here with us. Just because the leadership of the app is a joke, you can't give up the love and care for the SG franchise.
    Here -- like Gateworld, you mean... No, meant just the SG:C.

    I have too much fun here. This is like my dysfunctional stargate family.
    Gateworld will always be home (for as long as it stays around, and when it goes... well, that will be a sad day).

    Even though the love for the franchise is a bit on the low side at the moment -- in no greater part thanks to the SG:C and MGM. At least, they accomplished something there. Though fairly certain MGM's customer relations department leaves a whole lot to be desired. They have a funny way of showing that Stargate is one of their most priced franchises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    I believe as long as you don't sell it and you don't earn money with it, it is not against the law to put SG pictures on such items which are used for personal use. That is the reason I have said we can easily make our own t-shirt, pillow or whatever else.

    * * *
    Even though you can use things for art and personal use that you aren't selling, there are quite a few printers that won't print things with obviously copyrighted material, like logos and photos from shows... but there is a ton of murky grey area for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunasera View Post
    Even though you can use things for art and personal use that you aren't selling, there are quite a few printers that won't print things with obviously copyrighted material, like logos and photos from shows... but there is a ton of murky grey area for sure.
    It's remarkable how little online services care for such trivial matters. I have a T-shirt with a gate on that I had printed for a convention -- first time we set up our lifesize gate at a convention in Paris. I was the designated Gate Builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon Horus View Post
    It's remarkable how little online services care for such trivial matters. I have a T-shirt with a gate on that I had printed for a convention -- first time we set up our lifesize gate at a convention in Paris. I was the designated Gate Builder.
    Probably has something to do with their ToS. I guess its like making ''copies'' of a CD or movies, its alright as long as its for personal use, this is legally allowed (1 copy per individual, if you own the original).

    It becomes serious when you use a specific logo to make money and the ''OP'' sees it and files a suit. Logos are pretty easy to defend in courts, as they are specific visual representation. It becomes tricky when its a song case or visual effect case. Copyrights are easily circumvented by changing a small aspect, so are patents for a simple products.

    Most experienced business men will always advice never to file in for a patent until your final product is ready / unless you're 100% sure the product cannot be reproduced easily. You wouldn't file a patent for a key-holder, because I could simply change the rounded shape to a square one and call it mine.

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