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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Nicknames, that's a good idea. I tend to think of these people as their formal names because that's the only way they're ever written, but you're right - day to day, these people probably have a working shorthand. Jon instead of Jonathan, Bill instead of William, that sort of thing.

    (Assuming, of course, that the 'source' is accurate in the first place!)
    and often times, in shows as anticipated as this, they do not put the correct character name or even any name up until much closer to the release date

    but yes i agree, to your point, did everyone go around using their full multi syllable name? its a natural thing to refer to shorthand even in a person's name

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    still getting frustrated with all of these self appointed, fandom menace youtubers still making videos based on their ignorance of Tolkien's works and making claims that it is a remake of LOTR's.

    i mean, do a google search and see just what and when '2nd age of middle earth' means

    but no, they are in such a rush to pump out more 'expert videos' to their fans, they neglect stuff like facts from the source material

    a video i saw today had the guy saying he thinks the actress named may be playing a Hobbit! because, you know, Tyra sounds like a Hobbit name!

    Correct me if I am wrong, but Hobbits were not even in the Shire in the 2nd age were they? Weren't they still along the northern Anduin somewhere at the beginning of the third age?

    THEY NEED TO change the name of this show as soon as possible, the balance of using lotrsonprime from being beneficial in the buzz generation, is turning negative by both these fandom menace types and people like me getting frustrated that using that name is very imprecise and just lazy

    but- just want would be a better name that people other than tolkien fans would be attracted to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magi877 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but Hobbits were not even in the Shire in the 2nd age were they? Weren't they still along the northern Anduin somewhere at the beginning of the third age?
    Yeah their exact origin isn't really known, just that they're an offshoot of Men.

    Earliest recorded history of them is, as you say, near the Anduin early in the Third Age, between the Misty Mountains to the west and Mirkwood (at that time still the Greenwood) to the east. Smeagol and Deagol were hobbits of this group. It's really not known when they migrated across the Misty Mountains and into Eregion, but I would speculate it wouldn't be until the Third Age sometime.

    Eregion in the west was embroiled in the wars with Sauron for much of the late Second Age, and then for a number of centuries into the Third Age it would have been part of the kingdom of Arnor, and then it took a few more centuries to dissolve into several kingdoms, those kingdoms plus and vs the Witch King of Angmar around 1500-1600 TA, and then to finally collapse completely into the no-central-government/unclaimed region we're most familiar with The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings nearer the end of the Age (approx. 3000 TA). I'd speculate that it's unlikely Hobbits migrated out of the east and into Eregion until roughly 2000 TA.

    I suppose it's possible hobbits were around in the Second Age, it's not like an entire species just emerges from nowhere. But they really don't appear in the lore at all until early in the Third Age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Yeah their exact origin isn't really known, just that they're an offshoot of Men.


    I suppose it's possible hobbits were around in the Second Age, it's not like an entire species just emerges from nowhere. But they really don't appear in the lore at all until early in the Third Age.
    the Hobbits were defi. around, far to the east. They probably left Hildorien along with the other races of men who left there to flee from Morgoths' agents. But, seeing how the migration was probably all on foot, and being of shorter stature, it would make sense that they got left behind by the faster pace of 'regular' men.

    then too, there are the Dru-edain. they were not hobbits but were also short of stature. for whatever reason, many of them were able to keep up withe the Edain and come into Beleriand with them. if i remember right-i think it was in Children of Hurin (or maybe one of those history of middle earth books?) where it was told how a large group of them came into Beleriand with the house of Haleth and were considered by the Haladin as being a part of their community though they remained apart (no intermarriage, etc) they were even part of the migration to Numenor when the Haladin went there.

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    so much beyond the Hobbit and LOTRs, that when you read all of it, it makes you realize just how much Tolkien never got to put into published print other than his notes and letters

    such a vivid imagination and an integration of his stories and 'backstory' with northern European myth and peoples/language. knowing this makes one even madder when you see the ya-hoos on the net making these crazy predictions solely based on their viewing of 6 movies

    oh well, more patience to see what is actually produced and hope it lives up to the Tolkien name and 'yay' for the Tolkien expert having to be on set/ in meetings per the agreement with the Tolkien family, hope they keep tptbs 'straight'

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    https://twitter.com/lotronprime/stat...76839205060608

    I’m speculating, obviously, but I think it’s a safe bet this means they’ll be filming in NZ, just like the films did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    https://twitter.com/lotronprime/stat...76839205060608

    I’m speculating, obviously, but I think it’s a safe bet this means they’ll be filming in NZ, just like the films did.
    yes, i read elsewhere that it will be NZ.

    i guess they looked at scotland but supposedly issues/uncertainty with brexit and labor issues made them go to nz

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