Was the SGC right to overthrow the Goa'uld?

[StargateMillennium]

Guess this will be kinda political but I'm curious.

In the episode "Shadowplay" they bring up the SGC has a policy not to interfere with the affairs of other civilizations. It was then brought up that they interfere with the Goa'uld all the time.

Carter's defense was that they enslave millions.
So it seems to me that she was fine with this because of this concept of them fighting absolute bad.

So, after the Asgard Treaty made the Goa'uld not allowed to attack Earth, were they right in still trying to fight them? After all, on Earth countries that take it upon themselves to attack countries led by evil people and dictators are kinda frowned upon.

[Bhousden]

Guess this will be kinda political but I'm curious.

In the episode "Shadowplay" they bring up the SGC has a policy not to interfere with the affairs of other civilizations. It was then brought up that they interfere with the Goa'uld all the time.

Carter's defense was that they enslave millions.
So it seems to me that she was fine with this because of this concept of them fighting absolute bad.

So, after the Asgard Treaty made the Goa'uld not allowed to attack Earth, were they right in still trying to fight them? After all, on Earth countries that take it upon themselves to attack countries led by evil people and dictators are kinda frowned upon.

Eventually the goa'uld would've called the Asgard's bluff and attacked Earth. Oh wait, Anubis DID call their bluff and encroach on the planet Heimdall was doing research on his ancestor on. Then again he used knowledge of the ancients to gather technology that rivaled Asgard tech. After-which he made a direct play on Earth, so if we hadn't been waging a war against them we never would've found the outpost in Antarctica and destroyed Anubis's fleet. So yeah, we were justified in interfering in their affairs.

Consider this, what if it was Star Trek? The Federation DOES have a non-interference policy in the affairs of sovereign systems, unless they are in the Federation. This policy doesn't prevent them from defending themselves against anybody who would attack them. When I say "them" I mean any ship in the Starfleet armada and/or planets that are a part of the Federation, so yeah. We interfere when it's our own sovereignty at stake.

[Gatefan1976]

Guess this will be kinda political but I'm curious.

In the episode "Shadowplay" they bring up the SGC has a policy not to interfere with the affairs of other civilizations. It was then brought up that they interfere with the Goa'uld all the time.

Carter's defense was that they enslave millions.
So it seems to me that she was fine with this because of this concept of them fighting absolute bad.

So, after the Asgard Treaty made the Goa'uld not allowed to attack Earth, were they right in still trying to fight them? After all, on Earth countries that take it upon themselves to attack countries led by evil people and dictators are kinda frowned upon.

I'll ask a question of you first.
Are you asking if it was justifiable, or moral?

[StargateMillennium]

Eventually the goa'uld would've called the Asgard's bluff and attacked Earth. Oh wait, Anubis DID call their bluff and encroach on the planet Heimdall was doing research on his ancestor on. Then again he used knowledge of the ancients to gather technology that rivaled Asgard tech. After-which he made a direct play on Earth, so if we hadn't been waging a war against them we never would've found the outpost in Antarctica and destroyed Anubis's fleet. So yeah, we were justified in interfering in their affairs.

Hindsight bias. When the treaty was signed we believed the Asgard could enforce it. And, Anubis may have had the knowledge but the only reason he was able to get so much power was because the System Lords decided to let him back and let him run rampant for a bit. And the only reason they did that was because the Tau'ri were becoming a genuine threat they could not deal with.

[StargateMillennium]

I'll ask a question of you first.
Are you asking if it was justifiable, or moral?

Both.

[edgarcorny]

Hi,

The interesting parallel is that the States in the United States of America do not have Federal intervention in state squabbles unless national security is involved.

If China or the USSR or Russia or Muslims or anyone not a part of the USofA attacks, the states close ranks behind the Federal Government to defend.

In SG1, the Earth was more or less the USofA. China might be Ba'al, The USSR might be the Goa'uld and the Muslims might be the Ori.

No Conflict as I see it.

Doug vV

[Bhousden]

Hindsight bias. When the treaty was signed we believed the Asgard could enforce it. And, Anubis may have had the knowledge but the only reason he was able to get so much power was because the System Lords decided to let him back and let him run rampant for a bit. And the only reason they did that was because the Tau'ri were becoming a genuine threat they could not deal with.

You forget the part where Jack so much as told Thor that the goa'uld could call the Asgard's bluff and attack earth anyway, to which Thor agreed.

[Falcon Horus]

After all, on Earth countries that take it upon themselves to attack countries led by evil people and dictators are kinda frowned upon.

Considering the location of where Stargate Command is situated -- the USA -- you could say it's a representation of the meddling in affairs the US is famous for: policing the world.

[Bhousden]

Considering the location of where Stargate Command is situated -- the USA -- you could say it's a representation of the meddling in affairs the US is famous for: policing the world.

Have we forgotten that Ra came to Earth and took humans from here and "planted" them on goa'uld controlled worlds turning them into slaves and host. So in essence we are simply liberating citizens of world's populated by descendants of ancients races/cultures of Earth.

[Falcon Horus]

Have we forgotten that Ra came to Earth and took humans from here and "planted" them on goa'uld controlled worlds turning them into slaves and host. So in essence we are simply liberating citizens of world's populated by descendants of ancients races/cultures of Earth.

Mmm.... yeah, no... sorry, try again.

[Bhousden]

Mmm.... yeah, no... sorry, try again.

So what, it's ok for the goa'uld to play Gods? What about when Ra took the nuke from Jack and was gonna send it to Earth and wipe us out? We have a right to defend ourselves. Apophis came to Earth and took a female Lt. were we not justified in trying to rescue her? If we'd just buried the gate then Apophis's ships would've wiped us from existence.

[Shiner833]

Yes since the goa'uld repeatedly attacked/threatened to attack earth it would be in the best interest of earth to stop that threat.

[Bhousden]

Yes since the goa'uld repeatedly attacked/threatened to attack earth it would be in the best interest of earth to stop that threat.

Thank you!

[StargateMillennium]

Considering the location of where Stargate Command is situated -- the USA -- you could say it's a representation of the meddling in affairs the US is famous for: policing the world.

But they say all evil needs to win is for good men to stand by and do nothing.

[StargateMillennium]

Yes since the goa'uld repeatedly attacked/threatened to attack earth it would be in the best interest of earth to stop that threat.

I'd say one issue is that after the Asgard treaty was in place, the SGC was assisting and supplying two open rebellions against them and offing System Lords left and right. That's why they turned to Anubis for help and that's why all the Goa'uld attacks on Earth after the treaty were attempted.