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    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO - SEASON 35 (9)
    THE WITCH'S FAMILIAR
    EPISODE NUMBER - 3502 (902)
    The Doctor finds himself trapped alone inside the heart of the Dalek homeworld, with Davros enacting a final revenge at the end of his bitter life. Meanwhile Missy comes up with a wild plan for her and Clara to infiltrate the city.

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    Okay, I enjoyed that a lot more than last week's episode, despite a few flaws. The ending felt a bit too convenient and contrived, but Missy was perfect. To some extent I do wish Davros hadn't been tricking the Doctor, but it was still an interesting enough story.
    And now it's time for one last bow, like all your other selves. Eleven's hour is over now... the clock is striking Twelve's.

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    Pretty good episode, looking forward to seeing what the consequences are for the season...

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    So... How much regeneration energy did Davros take?

    I really wanted him to save Davros They seemed more like old friends than enemies. ..And there was no way they were really going to let Davros die

    Not sure what I think about the sunglasses replacing the screwdriver..
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    OMFG! That was amazing! One of the strongest episodes ever! They completely sold me on Davros redemption, and my heart was breaking for him... and then...

    Curse his sudden but inevitable betrayal!


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    *shakes cane at Davros*

    Noo!! You can't let Davros die! Doctor! You must save him! ..Then when the Doctor offered regeneration energy and the eye lit up again.. !

    I thought Davros lost his eyes? And that was why he needed the one in his forehead to see.. So I was a little surprised to hear him say he wanted to see the Doctor with his real eyes. Then I thought it was a trap to get the Doctor as close as possible for whatever evil scheme he had planned.. Then when it wasn't, I was sold on the Davros redemption thing too..

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    The interesting thing is that I'm not entirely sure Davros was entirely lying through any of his act. Oh yes for sure he wanted to deceive the Doctor and steal his regeneration energy, but I think he was also being sincere about a few things.
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    I didn't buy Davros' act for a moment. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop the entire time.
    Rather good episode overall, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    I didn't buy Davros' act for a moment. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop the entire time.
    Rather good episode overall, though.
    And then the shoe-dropping tax, I'm sure

    Davros and the Doctor were like old friends reminiscing over the good old days.. It didn't seem at all unreasonable for the Doctor to offer to help him see one last sunrise before he died.

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    There's so much to like in this episode...

    Part 1 7/10
    Part 2 8/10

    Missy was awesome. The Doctor was even more awesome.

    Don't forget the whole twist on Emperor Palpatine and "strike me down, use your hate" from Return Of The Jedi..

    OMG this was still a good episode despite that. Moffat steals ideas from everywhere haha..

    Davros is like every Bond villian. Bond has ample chance to kill them but he never does.

    The sewers and spare chair are both references to "curse of the fatal death"

    With the Timelord energy does that mean that Davros and everyone now know where Galifrey is, and the prophecy of the hybrid is come true? Was that really why the Doctor ran away from Galifrey all those years ago? Or was it something else like the humanoid/TARDIS hybrid that they were scared of?

    BTW does anyone know what the actual skating thing is that the snake guy was using to glide on in part 1? They showed it in the extras but it was very, very quick glimpse and you miss it? In the extras the actor said he was using it in a park to practice gliding....

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    The whole language thing was a cop out. In "asylum" Clara Dalek had no trouble talking and now she does? Get out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    There's so much to like in this episode...

    Part 1 7/10
    Part 2 8/10

    Missy was awesome. The Doctor was even more awesome.

    Don't forget the whole twist on Emperor Palpatine and "strike me down, use your hate" from Return Of The Jedi..

    OMG this was still a good episode despite that. Moffat steals ideas from everywhere haha..

    Davros is like every Bond villian. Bond has ample chance to kill them but he never does.

    The sewers and spare chair are both references to "curse of the fatal death"

    With the Timelord energy does that mean that Davros and everyone now know where Galifrey is, and the prophecy of the hybrid is come true? Was that really why the Doctor ran away from Galifrey all those years ago? Or was it something else like the humanoid/TARDIS hybrid that they were scared of?

    BTW does anyone know what the actual skating thing is that the snake guy was using to glide on in part 1? They showed it in the extras but it was very, very quick glimpse and you miss it? In the extras the actor said he was using it in a park to practice gliding....
    I believe it may have been a special rig designed for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    The whole language thing was a cop out. In "asylum" Clara Dalek had no trouble talking and now she does? Get out of here.
    That was a special case though. Oswin wasn't just another person but the result of Clara slipping through time with the singular goal of saving the Doctor. That was part of the reason why she was able to keep her individuality at all.

    Additionally, keep in mind that Missy was the one that rigged Clara into the Dalek in the first place, and by all appearances she was intentionally trying to get clara killed.
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    So when Clara was slipt through time, do you think she is secretly saving to Doctor now. I wonder if Missy knows that happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodAtum View Post
    So when Clara was slipt through time, do you think she is secretly saving to Doctor now. I wonder if Missy knows that happened?
    You never know. It could be possible. Personally I always thought it a bit of a missed opportunity that she hasn't met another version of herself out there because of it... Never know. It might still happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post
    And then the shoe-dropping tax, I'm sure
    Shush, some damn politician will hear you and come up with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    There's so much to like in this episode...

    Don't forget the whole twist on Emperor Palpatine and "strike me down, use your hate" from Return Of The Jedi..
    Oh, there was definitely an Emperor Palpatine vibe about Davros.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Pops View Post
    BTW does anyone know what the actual skating thing is that the snake guy was using to glide on in part 1? They showed it in the extras but it was very, very quick glimpse and you miss it? In the extras the actor said he was using it in a park to practice gliding....
    Maybe I missed something else, but I thought that bit in the extras was Capaldi talking about Davros' Dalek wheelchair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    ...Maybe I missed something else, but I thought that bit in the extras was Capaldi talking about Davros' Dalek wheelchair.
    He's talking about this DW Extra from last week.




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    I thought that was a great episode.

    Once again I loved the interaction between Missy & Clara. Some hilarious moments.

    C: Can I have a stick too?
    M: Make your own stick.

    M: Can you see the bottom?
    C: It's too dark. We could chuck a stone down or something.
    M: Oh yeah. Good idea. (Missy pushes Clara down the hole.)
    C: Arrrgghhhh!
    M: Twenty Feet.

    C: You can't kill a Dalek with a brooch!
    M: Yesyoucan yesyoucan.

    I also loved the bit in black & white where you get a quick glimpse of the 4th Doctor & the 1st Doctor.

    I was on the edge of my seat watching the talk between Davros and the Doctor. I genuinely did not know if Davros was being genuine or not. I thought it was very powerful and moving. Well done Julian Bleach giving such a great performance through all the prosthetics and make-up.

    I guess that the Doctor showing mercy to Davros and that being absorbed into the Dalek consciousness is the reason for the scene in The Big Bang between River and the Dalek. River musn't have told the Doctor about that particular incident, as the 12th Doctor didn't know about it.



    Some bits I am particularly interested in are that once again Missy references that she chose Clara to go with the Doctor, and that the Master/Missy has a daughter. Is it too obvious that the daughter will turn out to be

    Spoiler:
    Maisie Williams character in upcoming episodes?


    Another thing that had me intrigued was the Time Lord prophecy about a Time Lord hybrid. Am I right in thinking that Davros said that the Doctor's possible participation in the prophecy was his reason for running away from Gallifrey? I am rather hoping that Davros has got part of the prophecy wrong. I really would like it to be a Time Lord/Cyberman hybrid.

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    Actually I think the whole prophecy thing was some BS that the Doctor told child Davros and it got stuck in his mind.....

    I'd love to see a spin off series with Missy / Clara...That would be so funny.

    Are they allowed to say "b****" on a show like Doctor Who because I swear I heard that line from Missy "tell him the B is back."

    Did Missy say something funny about Clara when the Doctor freed her from the Dalek? Seemed a bit odd? Also how did she fit in that case?

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    Rewatching the episode now, and I think I'm enjoying it even more. Some fantastic lines - "Admit it, you've all had this exact nightmare", "So, anyone for dodgems?", "Murdering a Dalek. I'm a Time Lady, it's our golf", "OKAY, THAT'S A BIT WEIRD" and "...Twenty feet" all got big laughs from me, even if I saw the last one coming a mile off - chalk that up to Michelle Gomez's inspired performance.

    Mixed feelings about the Hostile Action Dispersal System, though I think I kind of like it as a result of the Doctor's tinkering with the TARDIS. Not so hot on the sonic sunglasses, hope they don't end up truly replacing the screwdriver - I can understand that the sonic was being overused but I'd still like to see it every now and then.

    The Doctor being able to produce a cup of tea lends further credence, as if it was needed, to the idea that he has dimensionally transcendental pockets. That or he was successfully able to blackmail a Dalek into repeating it's "Would you care for some tea?" subroutine from a few years back...

    Missy and Clara's banter was brilliant - I'm hoping this gives Missy the idea to get a companion (or mobile emergency rations might be a more appropriate term) of her own, and I do love it when villains work with protagonists.

    As funny as Missy is, I think the more serious and dramatic moments in Michelle Gomez's performance are beautifully delivered.

    The new facts about the Daleks were overall pretty good, the idea that they can't truly die was interesting and that while Cybermen suppress emotion Daleks channel it.

    Davros being funny... twice! Both "The only other chair on Skaro" and "You are not a good doctor" made me chuckle, and that I did not expect coming from Davros. It definitely helped lull me into starting to believe his redemption. I do sort of wish it had been genuine on some level.

    The ending would probably have been improved if the Doctor hadn't known, merely suspected, what Davros was going to do and at least for a while had truly started to believe him. Also the liquefied sewer daleks... maybe it's just me but I didn't quite get why they hated the full daleks so much.

    I get the feeling this hybrid warrior prophecy and the Doctor's confession dial is going to become very significant...
    And now it's time for one last bow, like all your other selves. Eleven's hour is over now... the clock is striking Twelve's.

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